2 much txt r u anoyd 2?

[dmdigital]

Is it just me or has there be a step backward in the quality of the written words on this forum of late:confused::confused:

This isn't a dig at bad spelling or grammar, rather the fact that there seems to be more and more of those horrible SMS abbreviations creeping in.

I know I'm not the world's best at spelling or grammar but I like to think I do a reasonable job (plus I use a spell checker;)). Does it really take that much to enter things a little better? ... or are more people using their mobile phones to post to the forum:confused:








I'll go hide behind my rock again now:p

[stig0000]

yer iv notc it 2, i cnt thk tht ppl can tlk lik tht on forems, im so sic of it 2 , :wasntme::p ,, its jut i havnt sed enythig but now u hav, i hpe ppl stp doin it:wasntme::p:p

i must say that i have a bad habit of it thow, becouse im so uesd to msn an sms, i now spell like that on here, i allways type somthing an then i have to go back over it an redo it in the right way, plus i can;t spell if my life depended on it, :D:p

[The ho har's]

I'll go hide behind my rock again now:p

HIDING........ROCK........... I don't remember posting anything one this thread:tease::p:wasntme:

Mrs ho har:angel:

I don't think I can spell it any clearer:D

[Sleepy]

Come out from that rock dm_td5!:mad:
You can't just provoke the flood of txt-lish and then run away and have us read it.:D


I H8 Txt-lish 2!

[dullbird]

I'm kind of puzzled where you have been reading all this text talk that you talk about.

I can't say I have noticed any, not enough to warrant wingeing about it anyway.:p

[seano87]

<Snip>
This isn't a dig at bad spelling or grammer, <snip>

Sorry, can't help myself - grammAr.

:p

I'll forgive you since you spelt it correct about two lines later! :angel:

Seano

[barney]

it agrav8s me 2:mad:

[dmdigital]

Sorry, wasn't really hiding, just disappeared to watch the ABC for an hour or so of laughs.

I wouldn't say it's over the top, just that there has been a number of instances in the last week or so of mobile phone like abbreviations in titles and threads. The bad spelling can sometimes be annoying, sometimes funny and sometimes down right hilarious... and, as was pointed out, I'm no good at it either:(

[Ace]

its rampant in society, thats all the kids at school write in, its so hard getting them out of the habbit so they can actually write in plain english during exams and in their school work.

[willem]

its rampant in society, thats all the kids at school write in, its so hard getting them out of the habbit so they can actually write in plain english during exams and in their school work.

What's English? At this rate txtlish will soon be the English that everyone uses!

But languages are always changing. A good example is to compare the English used in an older translation of the Bible such as the King James Version, translated in 1611, with a contemporary translation such as the New International Version. The language in both is English, but much different. And with the much greater speed of communication we can expect changes in our language to be happening at a faster rate.

Willem

[Sleepy]

Yeah, like spelling William properly! :mad:





:p:D:wasntme::angel:

[Ace]

What's English? At this rate txtlish will soon be the English that everyone uses!

But languages are always changing. A good example is to compare the English used in an older translation of the Bible such as the King James Version, translated in 1611, with a contemporary translation such as the New International Version. The language in both is English, but much different. And with the much greater speed of communication we can expect changes in our language to be happening at a faster rate.

Willem

Text talk is being added to the english subject school curriculum. Im not joking, it truly is. Its so engrained into the culture of kids today that its being put into the syllabus. What ammuses me is that kids came up with it, and older teachers now have to teach something they dont understand and cant read. LOL :D

[dandlandyman]

I don't have the whole 'rotflmao/lol/etc' txtlish down pat, but I think it's best to be 'bilingual' these days..... Kind of like working in both imperial (including Witworth, etc) and metric. (Note to self: find out if Whitworth has an H in it or not...)

That said, people's inability to know which word to use (eg. there/their/they're, to/two/too, peace/piece, I could go on...) grates a little on me. But it's not a hanging crime.

I particularly liked "How do I fit a taco into my Land Rover?":D

Dan.
69 2A 88" pet4, 74 3 109" pet4, 68 2B FC pet6.

[Sleepy]

... teachers now have to teach something they dont understand and cant read....

Ummm - should fit in well then :wasntme:











(Sorry all you educators out there - I love youse all!)

[Sleepy]

..... Kind of like working in both imperial (including Witworth, etc) and metric.....:D


:lol2::lol2::lol2::lol2:

[V8Ian]

I don't have the whole 'rotflmao/lol/etc' txtlish down pat, but I think it's best to be 'bilingual' these days..... Kind of like working in both imperial (including Witworth, etc) and metric. (Note to self: find out if Whitworth has an H in it or not...)

That said, people's inability to know which word to use (eg. there/their/they're, to/two/too, peace/piece, I could go on...) grates a little on me. But it's not a hanging crime.

I particularly liked "How do I fit a taco into my Land Rover?":D

Dan.
69 2A 88" pet4, 74 3 109" pet4, 68 2B FC pet6.
Two, actually:D

[Ace]

Ummm - should fit in well then :wasntme:
(Sorry all you educators out there - I love youse all!)

:D:D Im an ag teacher so im right, i know cows have 4 legs and i can dig a hole.

But i wont be a teacher for much longer, less than 6 weeks left now.

[willem]

[quote=Sleepy;947557]Yeah, like spelling William properly! :mad:

I told you language is a developing thing! Willem is the proper development of the word. Either that or the Poms can't spell!

Willem was actually the name of the first Dutch king of England, who the Poms called William III. He was actually Willem of Orange, Prince of Holland, when he was asked by the English Parliament to take over from James II who was making some very unpopular decisions.

So Willem is a well established and famous name, both in Holland and also in England - even if they can't spell it there!

Willem

[Sleepy]

ok ive decided its not just the txtlish that peeees me off it is the lack of punctuation dont get me wrong i only got 54 percent for english so im no ron but when you dont put any punctuation in its just like one great big long verbal vomit i dont even know how you do it when I wrote this paragraph designed to show you how annoying it can be i had to delete the punctuation the words all just roll into one and I never get the subtle pauses and inflections that punctuation gives the reader i have to admit i think it is a little selfish thank you and good nite


and i also hate it when you spell night as nite but thats another matter


ahhh nothing like a good moan:angel:




:D:D:D

[Panda]

Same again. I hate text ... hardly use it on my phone. It' a pain.


what she said......:D

but I don't like it anyway ;)

[Panda]

:eek::eek::eek: Please tell me you're joking ...


Text talk is being added to the english subject school curriculum. Im not joking, it truly is. Its so engrained into the culture of kids today that its being put into the syllabus. What ammuses me is that kids came up with it, and older teachers now have to teach something they dont understand and cant read. LOL :D

[Bushie]

Text talk is being added to the english subject school curriculum. Im not joking, it truly is. Its so engrained into the culture of kids today that its being put into the syllabus. What ammuses me is that kids came up with it, and older teachers now have to teach something they dont understand and cant read. LOL :D


That's brilliant - Text is being driven by technology (SMS, msn etc.) by the time they get it (the syllabus) sorted out, the technology will have moved on, the users will create a new language and the school system will still be teaching kids about texting, and they will be saying "what's the relevance of all this crap".

:D:D


Martyn

[The ho har's]

GoodNITE all and happy MOANING......see yoall tomarro:angel::wasntme:


Mrs ho har:angel:

[Debacle]

I agree about the frustration with all this texting, but I remember reading an interview many years ago with either Frank Hardy or John O'Grady, neither of whom necessarily adhered to the queens english, but to them it was all about telling the yarn to give the reader a good laugh. If they had adhered to the conventions of the day, their writings would be stale rather than the reflections of the typical larrikin bloke they were portraying.

Fast forward to today, its the same situation, an older generation fighting against what is the accepted norm with the new generation.

Its all about getting the message across isnt it, rather than wasting valuable time being pedantic about everything.

[Sleepy]

ys u r probly rite:p

[Debacle]

ys u r probly rite:p

zacly, i knew exactly what you meant, is language about communication or punctuation.

[Debacle]

It's about communication of course,but sometimes punctuation helps to communicate what could otherwise be taken in a different way to what was meant.:confused:

The english language is quite cumbersome with many different meanings for words, especially with different punctuations applied. Shortened texting language is far more direct and to the point.


Sorry I am in an argumentive mood tonight

[Sleepy]

zacly, i knew exactly what you meant, is language about communication or punctuation.


Like our strange garments, cleave not to their mould
But with the aid of use.:huh:

[Debacle]

Like our strange garments, cleave not to their mould
But with the aid of use.:huh:

Have you tried using a different dry cleaner

[Sleepy]

Have you tried using a different dry cleaner

Oftentimes excusing of a fault
Doth make the fault the worse by the excuse.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

after reading all this it appears to me that text is a very BORING way to communicate,, it might be fast, and it might get the message across, but theres no room for funny misquotes, or python references.

Go back and reread the Happy Birthday NM post,,
now imagine that written in txtlish,,


:zzz:

[timaus13]

:D:D:DROFLMAO:D:D:D

[pommie]

Hang on, the English language, including Australian English (unlike say - French) does not impose hard and fast rules as to what it defined within it.

It is fluid - always has been. It has absorbed aspects of other languages - Anglo Saxon, Norse, Dutch etc as the English speakers are exposed to those influences.

Words, abbreviations, spelling, and phrases don't become "official English" by appearing in a dictionary - on the contrary - because they are used day to day, they are listed in dictionaries as representations of usage day to day.

There are some great examples in Australian English - for example - our use of the American "ize" (such as Orgnanize) - which common in Australia, is less common in British English.

The abbreviations of "texting" are perfectly ok... if they communicate effectively in the correct context. If they are in common usage, that's GR8 - that's ok, they become part of English.

[snowbound]

If this kind of grammer continues on this forum, then land rovers name could be MUD! or worse.......... Nissan!

[p38arover]

There are some great examples in Australian English - for example - our use of the American "ize" (such as Orgnanize) - which common in Australia, is less common in British English.

I generally see the "ise" ending in Oz, not the US "ize" - however, Australian newspapers to tend to use a lot of US spelling. Maybe it saves ink.

[abaddonxi]

Way back in my brain, I am almost 100% certain (from reading old books and documents) that "ize" is from old English anyway. many American words and terms still in use today are merely old English words and terms eg turnpikes comes immediately to mind.

You realise that now I will have to go looking for examples?......or I shall not rest :D

I think that there is a phenomenon where language usage is set - to a certain extent - by the language used at the time of settlement/colonisation. In USA there are groups of words that go back to the pilgrims. In Australia there is First Fleet convict slang. This also applies, from what I've read, to more recent migrants - that the language/slang, and customs are guided by those of their country at the time that they left.

Simon

[V8Ian]

The North Americans tend to spell phonetically, (why isn't that spelt with an F).;)
Where and how did expressions such as Fair Dinkum originate?:confused:

[Sleepy]

(why isn't that spelt with an F).;)

And why is Abbreviation such a long word?



Where and how did expressions such as Fair Dinkum originate?:confused:

I have heard two explanations of this:


A chinese word used on the diggings during the gold rush
An old English word (Cornish?) refering to a "fair days work".

[p38arover]

The North Americans tend to spell phonetically,

US spelling is largely derived from the work of Noah Webster in the late 18th Century. His dictionary was in every schoolroom - Webster had been a teacher. Webster simplified the spelling.

[jimbo110]

If people are too bloody lazy to try to spell reasonably correctly, then I'll be too bloody lazy to try to work out what they are talking about and go to the next thread. Why use this text crap, they have all the letters in front of them on the keyboard, and they only need to hit them once, not 3 times to get the correct letter. Who cares about the origin of words from 300 years ago, that was then, this is now! Somehow I don't think the average age on this forum is 17.:eek:
I can't understand why so many people posting on here are standing up for others lazyness!

[V8Ian]

and they only need to hit them once, not 3 times to get the correct letter.
You haven't watched me type ;):eek:

[Wortho]

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and they only need to hit them once, not 3 times to get the correct letter.

You haven't watched me type ;):eek:


Laugh out loud:D, i'm not the worlds greatest at typing either, however i have progressed to two fingers now.

[V8Ian]

Laugh out loud:D, i'm not the worlds greatest at typing either, however i have progressed to two fingers now.
Do I take that as a challenge? :D:D:D

[Pedro_The_Swift]

So has Numpty :D

I can now use 3 fingers.....and I reckon I can type 30 words per minute on 3 ;) (but not for long)



but which 3???

[Bushie]

I generally see the "ise" ending in Oz, not the US "ize" - however, Australian newspapers to tend to use a lot of US spelling. Maybe it saves ink.

Or they use American spell checkers.



Come to think of it I don't think they use spell checkers at all.



Martyn

[The ho har's]

You haven't watched me type ;):eek:


Laugh out loud:D, i'm not the worlds greatest at typing either, however i have progressed to two fingers now.


So has Numpty :D

I can now use 3 fingers.....and I reckon I can type 30 words per minute on 3 ;) (but not for long)

That is why ho har does not get on here....can't type...he just askes me to do it for him:D


Mrs ho har:angel:

[McDisco]

Its like visiting some of he british landy forums! Some of them really do corrupt the Queens english! Gives me a headache reading the posts.

Angus

[vnx205]

If people are too bloody lazy to try to spell reasonably correctly, then I'll be too bloody lazy to try to work out what they are talking about and go to the next thread. Why use this text crap, they have all the letters in front of them on the keyboard, and they only need to hit them once, not 3 times to get the correct letter. Who cares about the origin of words from 300 years ago, that was then, this is now! Somehow I don't think the average age on this forum is 17.:eek:
I can't understand why so many people posting on here are standing up for others lazyness!

I have a similar objection to SMS type of abbreviations and careless spelling and expression.

It reminds me of the sort of cost shifting that is so common today. In the same way that organisations and businesses try to shift their costs onto the consumer or the client, as far as I am concerned people using those abbreviations are just trying to reduce their workload and increase mine.

If they have something important to say, I believe they should make the effort to reduce the effort I will have to make to understand what they are saying.

Someone said earlier that it is all about communication and if the message is clear then nothing else matters. My response is that SMS abbreviations may be clear to some but they are not obvious to everyone.

Most of us have no trouble at all understanding something which is clearly expressed and correctly spelled. The fact that some people have become accustomed to the abomination of SMS abbreviations does not mean that the rest of us should be subjected to wasting our time trying to work out what it means.

[Sprint]

txt spk doesnt irritate me so much as the number of people who dont seem to be able to either spell, or use the correct spelling

ie: "bed soar", "my break booster is faulty" etc

[Sleepy]

txt spk doesnt irritate me so much as the number of people who dont seem to be able to either spell, or use the correct spelling
ie: "bed soar", "my break booster is faulty" etc

Can I text you a ridiculous offer on a car?:p

[Sprint]

hmm..... maybe if you want me to mms you a photo of my nether regions and a message to blow me!

[Sleepy]

hmm..... maybe if you want me to mms you a photo of my nether regions and a message to blow me!

:eek2: sory I aksed :D

[Sprint]

it seems to be all the rage with the teens.... apparently it's called "sexting"!