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29dinosaur
6th April 2009, 10:19 PM
Seems there's a gremlin in my 2000D2's rear door lock. Can hear locking/locking of rear door motor and mechanism. Lock button moves up and down but can't budge rear door when lifting door handle. I can't open door manually either from the boot space. Any clues? Thanks. Has been a bit dodgy for a while now - previously intermittent but now seems truly stuck.
Gillie
6th April 2009, 11:10 PM
I have the same problem with the wifes D2. you need to take the door trim off and there is adjustment on one of the rods that goes to the actuator from memory. I have been meaning to do it for some time as it is rather annoying. The D1 used to do it too, but I wasn't so lazy back then and fixed it quick smart. :D
Rayngie
7th April 2009, 08:56 AM
Did exactly the same thing on mine, once you get the door open, just spray lubricant around the locks etc regularly..if you can get the door open, I didn't remove the trim, but it unlocked itself after a day...but i did give it several 'man taps', never did it again after that.
Ray,
29dinosaur
7th April 2009, 09:08 AM
Did exactly the same thing on mine, once you get the door open, just spray lubricant around the locks etc regularly..if you can get the door open, I didn't remove the trim, but it unlocked itself after a day...but i did give it several 'man taps', never did it again after that.
Ray,
Yes - have tried the wait a day, the 'man taps', to no avail.... (yet 14yo son reckons he opened it with a shove whilst using electronic opener..mmm)
Shaker
7th April 2009, 09:41 AM
It appears to be just another one of the myriad of inherent faults that these vehicles have!
Yorkie
7th April 2009, 10:06 AM
i get the same issue, end up locking/unlocking multiple times until it releases.
in future i will be spraying silicon lubricant on a regular basis.
cheers
yorkie :)
McDisco
7th April 2009, 07:25 PM
It appears to be just another one of the myriad of inherent faults that these vehicles have!
Yeah thanks for this helpful post Shaker... :(:mad:
Seems there's a gremlin in my 2000D2's rear door lock. Can hear locking/locking of rear door motor and mechanism. Lock button moves up and down but can't budge rear door when lifting door handle. I can't open door manually either from the boot space. Any clues? Thanks. Has been a bit dodgy for a while now - previously intermittent but now seems truly stuck.
You will find the problem stems from the rear tyres. It places extra loads on the door and with bumps etc the door flexes and sucks in dust. The dust gums up the door mechanism. I have had mine stick a few times doing the simpson and flinders (basically anywhere dusty).
I usually get it open by whacking the locking mechanism (with a rubber mallet) to loosen the dust. If you spray the lock with graphite dust you will find it keeps the lock well lubricated. You do need to block out the lock regularly if out bush.
I have a hose with a blow gun on one end and a tyre stem attachment on the other. You connect it to the rear tyre and blow the dust out of the mechanism.
Angus
Panya
7th April 2009, 07:36 PM
I reckon McDisco's on the money. I think your son also has a point with mine it seemed to open if I shoved it in and up whilst gripping the opening mechanism at the same time... In the end it packed up after a very dusty trip (still getting dust out of speakers!) and eventually opened after much locking, unlocking, man taps, swearing, shoving... half a can of WD40 later plus moving the locking mechanism open/closed without shutting the door it then freed up again. more wd40 and opening & closing door for real mean it's nice and free now... long may it last. Had similar sticking from dust on drivers door also; same fix.
McDisco
7th April 2009, 07:40 PM
I reckon McDisco's on the money. I think your son also has a point with mine it seemed to open if I shoved it in and up whilst gripping the opening mechanism at the same time... In the end it packed up after a very dusty trip (still getting dust out of speakers!) and eventually opened after much locking, unlocking, man taps, swearing, shoving... half a can of WD40 later plus moving the locking mechanism open/closed without shutting the door it then freed up again. more wd40 and opening & closing door for real mean it's nice and free now... long may it last. Had similar sticking from dust on drivers door also; same fix.
Panya
I specifically don't use WD40 or similar cause when this stuff dries out it dries a bit sticky or gummy. This attracts the dust.
If you use graphite powder this shouldn't allow the dust to gum up the mechanism.
Angus
Bundalene
7th April 2009, 08:00 PM
Hi all with Series2 Disco rear door lock faults. This is a known problem.
If the symptons are that the FOB appears to unluck the rear door and the button on the inside actually goes up but the door wont open from outside or inside, then the problem more than likely is with the child proof lock.
To open the door you will have to firstly (from inside the car) remove the rear door seal out of the way around the lock mechanism, then jiggle the child proof lock mechanism up / down slightly with a hooked bit of wire or a scriber or similar and presto, the door operates again. The easiest way to find the physical location is by looking at another S2 Disco, measuring it and marking this on your car. It is actually behind a rubber block, making it a bit more difficult to access.
This first happened to us while we were on holidays in the middle of nowhere. 20kms of corrugated roads also clears the problem
There is a small spring in this mechanism which weakens with time.
The problem seems to occur more often when trying to open the rear door whilst it is still locked.
Erich.
cucinadio
7th April 2009, 08:17 PM
this might help mate
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/general-chat/51868-rear-door-jamed.html
it worked for me .......
cheers
Shaker
7th April 2009, 11:19 PM
Yeah thanks for this helpful post Shaker... :(:mad:
Angus
Sorry if the truth hurts!
As a Disco 2 owner I fell that I am well entitled to make whatever comment that I wish!
I have the rear door problem & believe me it is bloody inconvenient when you have a cargo barrier fitted!
Also, I agree with Bundalene that the problem is most likely to be a weak spring, which of course is unavailable as a spare part. There is a company in the UK that have springs for Discos, but at this stage only for Disco 1s.
I have wondered if spraying electrical contact cleaner in to the lock mechanism would clean it?
Also, right now I am wrestling with the starter solenoid problem, again a well known issue!
Pedro_The_Swift
8th April 2009, 05:25 AM
Sorry Shaker but there's no way for us to know that you are a D2 owner just from "that" post,,
And i hope you're wrong Bundalene!!
I'm forever trying to open the rear door on mine and finding it still locked,,
mine seems to require THREE fob presses to unlock,,,,
one day, someone in Toowoomba will buy a Nanocom and I''ll change the car to "single press",,
then it'll only need two:p
ozscott
8th April 2009, 06:43 AM
Mine is 6 years old and hasnt had any rear or other door lock problems yet thankfully. The problem if they do play up is when you have a cage!!! I have a Milford full height and that wont be pretty:D
My ignition lock played up once and a locksmith removed a tumbler to get it going and said that if I used graphite powder in the barrel and all door locks (where you can fit the key) he would never see me again...that was about 3-4 years ago. I carry the stuff in the door pocket and apply it every 6-8 months when I think about it...never had a problem. A good squirt and then use the key in and out a dozen times.
I also reckon that whilst these trucks have some annoying problems at times, MOSTLY they are fairly minor and just annoying...i like that much better than say a newer model prado's idea of a small problem where the rear door never plays up but $30 grands worth of DID goes up with a bang...believe me I can live with small things. She has never refused to start and run and even the three amigos went away 20,000k ago after I pressure water cleaned the brakes and used her off road to stir the modulator.
I love my D2!
Cheers
McDisco
8th April 2009, 06:47 PM
Sorry if the truth hurts!
As a Disco 2 owner I fell that I am well entitled to make whatever comment that I wish!
I have the rear door problem & believe me it is bloody inconvenient when you have a cargo barrier fitted!
Also, I agree with Bundalene that the problem is most likely to be a weak spring, which of course is unavailable as a spare part. There is a company in the UK that have springs for Discos, but at this stage only for Disco 1s.
I have wondered if spraying electrical contact cleaner in to the lock mechanism would clean it?
Also, right now I am wrestling with the starter solenoid problem, again a well known issue!
Shaker
I know what the truth is. My point was that your post wasnt hepful at all. The thread was started because 29dinosaur needed some advice. I can understand if you have been frustrated with your D2 (I have too), but your original comment didnt really contribute anything. Your second certainly did.
Angus
Shaker
8th April 2009, 07:01 PM
I am sure it is not the first, nor will be last post, posted here out of frustration!
If it offended anybody, then I apologise. I do normally try keep my contributions here a little more useful.
Shaker
8th April 2009, 10:23 PM
I forgot to mention with my rear door problem, which was exactly as described in this thread, I backed of the latch adjustment a little & it hasn't done it since!
29dinosaur
8th April 2009, 10:57 PM
Thanks for replies -will try to give some of them a try on weekend.
(Now I must say these niggley LR problems are a real pain in the neck as some others have also replied - I'm sick too of the three amigos coming and going. Am getting sick of them nearly to the point of going back to Jap.. but nothing rides like a LR)
Zute
8th April 2009, 11:44 PM
My wife found the problem with ours was the outside handle wasn't quite returning to the right position. She'd just pull the handle down then it would work fine.
29dinosaur
9th April 2009, 12:53 PM
Well took off plastic land Rover badge, blew hard into the handle and mechanism and hey - bingo, jolly thing came open.
Now after a liberal squirt of carbon powder around the locks we'll see how we go.
Also had 3 amigos come on for nth time yesterday. Wouldn't cancel with key in ignition, open, close door or any other combination, so decided i'd plant my foot to the brake pedal when starting and also had success. (Now can I squirt the graphite pdr into th eABS system to keep it working??)
Pedro_The_Swift
10th April 2009, 07:49 AM
does the badge just clip out and clip back in?
discodancer
10th April 2009, 05:16 PM
Yep this is a known problem.
It is not always the "dust"or wear and tear.
How about a BRAND NEW.. (2001 series 2...different rear handle set up to series 1.?.no key option) model driven from Melb. to Brisbane on bitumen.
I had a top-half dog/cargo barrier fitted and loaded en route to cape york.
The door refuses to open in Brisbane and I can't get to the interior panel etc.
Took it to the dealer under warranty and he could not open it either!
We eventually removed the barrier from inside and levered the corner of the door lining and with some wire hooked the latch.
Temporary fix.
Locking assembly removed and lubricated as LR dealer was closing on Fri night.
2 hours later same problem ...and this continued intermittently all the way to the cape and back.
I ended up with a "Heath-Robinson" pull-cord attached and no door lining, so that I could open rear door from rear seat.
Removed adjusted/cleaned /siliconed spray etc etc several times en route = no difference still intermittent and sometimes failed immediately after "repairing ie. next attempt at opening '...NOT HAPPY JAN!!!
Back in Melbourne 2001, dealer fitted NEW solenoid latch assembly and no problem since..touch wood.
Having owned Landrovers for many years I thought myself lucky that this was the only problem we encountered!!!!
Why do I persist?
cheers
Bob
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