Rip Off

[JayBee75]

Well thought I would do the right thing and try to source second hand parts instead of buying new, you know splash the cash within Australian businesses etc.

Went to a recommended wrecker on this site with a list of approx 10 items looking to spend a grand or two, thinking I would benefit by getting second hand.

WRONG

I cannot believe in some circumstances these guys want to charge more than I can get the items new.

ARB bullbar, can get one cheaper new
CDL linkage, can get one From LR cheaper (that's a first!)
2 inch lift, can get new spings and shockers $200 cheaper new
Wheels and tyres, can get cheaper new by $100

Cannot believe these guys are in business, obviously taking advantage of parts they know alot of people chase. Well they will not be getting my hard earned, and when they complain the econmony downturn is hurting maybe they will open their eyes and realise people are sick of being ripped off.

Well back to sourcing from OS and more localised suppliers for me. For the sake of minimal extra dollars I'll buy new.

End of Rant:angel:

[Basil135]

Your right.

It is unreal that second-hand parts should cost more than brand new. I understand that there has to be a certain amount included in the cost for the initial purchase of the wreck, labour to remove the parts, shop overheads etc, but the fact remains that second-hand parts will have a shorter life expectency than new.

In theory, this means that if you buy a set of tyres second-hand, they will wear out quicker than a brand new set. You then go back to the wreckers & buy another set. However, if the price is too high to start with, then it is probably more economical to purchase new in the first place.

What would be interesting is to see how much could be made by selling all of the individual components of a car separately, as opposed to selling it as a whole.

[hook]

Thats why parts are made to wear out.
They make more money out of spare parts,
then selling the car in the 1st place.

[incisor]

ask who via PM not in an open forum....

please..... ;)

[JayBee75]

Hi admin, have no intention of advising who even on PM, as this would be unfair and it's based on my experience only.

Cheers

[incisor]

is fine, just deleted a couple of posts asking who so posted what i did...

[Skiboy]

My recent experience was similar - this was for land rover and Nissan parts.

What I learned is that the wreckers now price at 1/2 or more of the recommended retail for new parts. In fact more than one wrecker has said to me new it is $110 so second hand (if he had one) was going to be $55. In this particular case it cost me $19 for a new part by mail order from the UK (less than 7 days) and less than $30 with postage.

I would buy more parts if they cost less and were easier to get. I want to order from my office during the week and bolt on in the weekend.

There is a business here for someone to link with the reputable UK suppliers and offer this stuff here in Aust. It should be as simple as going to a supplier web site, looking at a parts diagram and translating that to a part number and then paying for the order plus postage. With an option for o/night or standard post (extra cost if rush item).

Who will partner me in the business?
Skiboy - soon to known as CheaperLandySpares.com.au

[Tank]

Well thought I would do the right thing and try to source second hand parts instead of buying new, you know splash the cash within Australian businesses etc.

Went to a recommended wrecker on this site with a list of approx 10 items looking to spend a grand or two, thinking I would benefit by getting second hand.

WRONG

I cannot believe in some circumstances these guys want to charge more than I can get the items new.

ARB bullbar, can get one cheaper new
CDL linkage, can get one From LR cheaper (that's a first!)
2 inch lift, can get new spings and shockers $200 cheaper new
Wheels and tyres, can get cheaper new by $100

Cannot believe these guys are in business, obviously taking advantage of parts they know alot of people chase. Well they will not be getting my hard earned, and when they complain the econmony downturn is hurting maybe they will open their eyes and realise people are sick of being ripped off.

Well back to sourcing from OS and more localised suppliers for me. For the sake of minimal extra dollars I'll buy new.

End of Rant:angel:
Where are you situated, I rang around today for a mate who needed a front drivers window, well known and recommended wrecker here on forum quoted a good price, 2 other L/R wreckers were double the first price, and a wrecker in Wollongong who didn't have the part quoted a Hotline price a further $100 on top of the 2 L/R wreckers, so instead of getting hot under the collar, check out the Markets here or some of the L/R wreckers that support this Forum, PM me if you want names and prices, Regards Frank.

[JayBee75]

My recent experience was similar - this was for land rover and Nissan parts.

What I learned is that the wreckers now price at 1/2 or more of the recommended retail for new parts. In fact more than one wrecker has said to me new it is $110 so second hand (if he had one) was going to be $55. In this particular case it cost me $19 for a new part by mail order from the UK (less than 7 days) and less than $30 with postage.

I would buy more parts if they cost less and were easier to get. I want to order from my office during the week and bolt on in the weekend.

There is a business here for someone to link with the reputable UK suppliers and offer this stuff here in Aust. It should be as simple as going to a supplier web site, looking at a parts diagram and translating that to a part number and then paying for the order plus postage. With an option for o/night or standard post (extra cost if rush item).

Who will partner me in the business?
Skiboy - soon to known as CheaperLandySpares.com.au


I'm in - If I had the time!!!!!

Here's an example
CDL linkage lever etc to have CDL in my D2

From a wrecked D2 from this particular wreckers - $900! second hand

Just called LR Dealer in melb - $786.88 brand new genuine parts, would have to order it in though.

Can anyone point me in the direction of who i can source parts from in the UK? I have family over there so can co-ordinate that way. Ashcrofts?

Any help appreciated.

[JayBee75]

Where are you situated, I rang around today for a mate who needed a front drivers window, well known and recommended wrecker here on forum quoted a good price, 2 other L/R wreckers were double the first price, and a wrecker in Wollongong who didn't have the part quoted a Hotline price a further $100 on top of the 2 L/R wreckers, so instead of getting hot under the collar, check out the Markets here or some of the L/R wreckers that support this Forum, PM me if you want names and prices, Regards Frank.

Hi Frank, appreciate the offer.
The more time I spend on this forum the more intrenched I am getting with this car! So much for selling a $100k car getting the D2 to save money!:angel:

I am in Eastern Suburns Melb (Vermont/Nunawading)

Have looked at all the major wreckers, all the obvious ones, and the major's don't seem to have a CDL available, eg AMV in melb.

I am looking at
Bar
CDL linkage
Wheel & Tyres
2inch lift
Tow points
Rubber mats
Snorkel
Lights

Tha's enough to get me going to the next stage.

Happy to try anyone who will supply what I need at a reasonable price.

Cheers

[Skiboy]

Where are you situated, I rang around today for a mate who needed a front drivers window, well known and recommended wrecker here on forum quoted a good price, 2 other L/R wreckers were double the first price, and a wrecker in Wollongong who didn't have the part quoted a Hotline price a further $100 on top of the 2 L/R wreckers, so instead of getting hot under the collar, check out the Markets here or some of the L/R wreckers that support this Forum, PM me if you want names and prices, Regards Frank.
I have looked in the markets section often - just too smaller range and not enough business flow there.
On the Gold Coast we have no option but to look to Brisbane (1 hr drive) or further away. I am buying some second hand parts right now off a guy in Melb for a fraction of the cost here - posted to my door.
And Flee Bay is frustrating when you have to compete for a part, forget to bid again etc. I would prefer to pay a reasonable listed price up front.
Skiboy

[Spenboyd]

Try the rubber mats from Land Rover they are having a run out on some genuine D2 accessories I picked up the full set for $80 from the dealership

[ozscott]

The D2 LR factory mats are bloody fantastic. Mine are 6 years old and look like new and are excellent at keeping sand, water and mud trapped until being emptied!!! For $80 they are amazing value. I thought they were value at $250 odd when new frankly.

Cheers

[Tank]

Hi Frank, appreciate the offer.
The more time I spend on this forum the more intrenched I am getting with this car! So much for selling a $100k car getting the D2 to save money!:angel:

I am in Eastern Suburns Melb (Vermont/Nunawading)

Have looked at all the major wreckers, all the obvious ones, and the major's don't seem to have a CDL available, eg AMV in melb.

I am looking at
Bar
CDL linkage
Wheel & Tyres
2inch lift
Tow points
Rubber mats
Snorkel
Lights

Tha's enough to get me going to the next stage.

Happy to try anyone who will supply what I need at a reasonable price.

Cheers
Try "Bundalene" (Erich) on this Forum or British 4WD imports in Melbourne, there are some L/R wreckers that are very reasonable with their prices, Regards Frank.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

You're right.
... In theory, this means that if you buy a set of tyres second-hand, they will wear out quicker than a brand new set. You then go back to the wreckers & buy another set. ....
I would be very reluctant to buy a set of second hand tyres unless I knew how they had been used and their age. The steel belts in steel belted radials can rust on the belts and de-laminate, many people are now changing tyres based on age rather than wear.
If the vehicle was stationary for a long time on grass the the chance or rust getting through the pores in the rubber are even greater.
Often the reason for wrecking the vehicle is because of a crash. Tyres that have been in a high speed roll-over would be something to avoid and you may never know about it till they fail.
The tyres may have been the reason for the crash.

[4bee]

Yes Diana. One does not stuff around with safety items.

Well, one might. .................................................. .................... ONCE.

[Basil135]

I would be very reluctant to buy a set of second hand tyres unless I knew how they had been used and their age. The steel belts in steel belted radials can rust on the belts and de-laminate, many people are now changing tyres based on age rather than wear.
If the vehicle was stationary for a long time on grass the the chance or rust getting through the pores in the rubber are even greater.
Often the reason for wrecking the vehicle is because of a crash. Tyres that have been in a high speed roll-over would be something to avoid and you may never know about it till they fail.
The tyres may have been the reason for the crash.


All very valid points.

However, it is possible to sometimes get second hand tyres, from a reputable tyre dealer. There are often people that may decide to replace a full set, and 2 of them are still ok. By ok, I mean legal, and still in good condition.

For example, I am going to have to replace my tyres soon. The front ones are still ok, but the back ones are nearly due. As I am still making up my mind about what to put on, I will replace the worn 2. Having a contact at a tyre shop helps too, and he is going to keep an eye out for some for me.

I too would be dubious about buying tyres from a wreckers, without knowing their history.

[AussieLandRover]

This is why it is always good to shop around and not buy of the first person sometimes if you go back to them and tell them you found cheaper they might even match or go that little more cheaper. The problem that i have come across since owning my LRD is that they assume you must be filthy ritch to even own a LR and that you will pay anything. I always tell them to there face "hey your asking too much for that part thanks anyway I'll call around more and if i don't find anything I'll get it from the US or UK for cheaper" and in some cases this has brought the price down on the parts.

[Disco Keith]

The other issue with second hand tyres is that the rubber could have gone hard and you wouldn't know it until the car is at speed (especially sweeping bends) or you're searching for traction.