AMV steering protector/bash plate D1

[dullbird]

Has anyone got one of these fitted to there D1....

I brought one off clarkie for my 96 disco.......

He pulled it off his 97 Dsico and we can not get it to fit....

If mouted up to the hole which the bullbar is also mounted too at the front of the chassis rails just before what looks like a body mount the bracket is not long enough to match up with the hole for the original steering protector....Its too short!

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/04/967.jpg

So its mounted up to the bottom bolt on the chassis...it even lines up with the scuff marks allready on the guard bracket so it looks like its in the same place as what the other disco had it.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/04/968.jpg

as you can see the end of the bracket just does not meet up with the original mounting point for the old steering guard

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/04/969.jpg


So we did take it off and mount from the original mouting point for the steering guard first.....lift the guard to see where the bracket would sit (and If this is making sense to you) the bracket lined up with the hole that is below what look like the body mount on the chassis (just after the bullbar brackets in the top photo)...only broblem is using this hole it doesn't line up with the hole on the bracket as the top of the bracket fowls on part of the body above it.

Any ideas????

This is it mounted to the 97 disco.....not very clear pics for the mounting brackets at all but it does prove that it was mounted to one originally

AMV Steering protector, near New - AULRO Classifieds (http://www.aulro.com/apc/showfull.php?product=667&bigimage=disco_97_red_AMV_Steering_bash_plate.jpg)

Lou

[Tombie]

Gday DB

Look-see here:
http://gallery.me.com/rovertech/100098/TRIP-20Ngarkat-20Aug-20Disco-20Aftermath12/web.jpg'ver=12395229450001


As you can see there is a 3rd bolt in there!

[Col.Coleman]

If you look at your photo you will see the bar mounting bolts, but no bracket attatched. The left side shows the bracket bolt behind the bar mounting bolts.

This is it mounted to the 97 disco.....not very clear pics for the mounting AMV Steering protector, near New - AULRO Classifieds (http://www.aulro.com/apc/showfull.php?product=667&bigimage=disco_97_red_AMV_Steering_bash_plate.jpg)


CC

[dullbird]

If you look at your photo you will see the bar mounting bolts, but no bracket attatched. The left side shows the bracket bolt behind the bar mounting bolts.

This is it mounted to the 97 disco.....not very clear pics for the mounting AMV Steering protector, near New - AULRO Classifieds (http://www.aulro.com/apc/showfull.php?product=667&bigimage=disco_97_red_AMV_Steering_bash_plate.jpg)


CC
Hey CC i'm finding it very hard to understand what you have writen...:(

Tombie is that third bold hole already there in the chassis or did you drill that yourself?

the only hole I believe is there extra is the one I was discussing above in the top picture that sits inside that bracket for what I think is the body mount is that the hole you used?

If I use that whole I would need to pack it out with some seriously big washers as it is a big hole.....and I would also need to cut the top of the bash plate bracket so it doesn't fowl

[Tombie]

Hey CC i'm finding it very hard to understand what you have writen...:(

Tombie is that third bold hole already there in the chassis or did you drill that yourself?

the only hole I believe is there extra is the one I was discussing above in the top picture that sits inside that bracket for what I think is the body mount is that the hole you used?

If I use that whole I would need to pack it out with some seriously big washers as it is a big hole.....and I would also need to cut the top of the bash plate bracket so it doesn't fowl

I'm thinking back over 7 years... And sorry DB, dont have any other shots from other angles good enough to focus that point.

BUT, I believe it was mounted using a crush tube (spacer) and a rectangular piece of plate with the bolt hole dia. drilled into it... So YES, it uses that area, but you appear to be missing a few bits...

TIP: Fit the rear mounts where they should be, loosely.
Then lift the front into position and fit. You'll then know exactly where you need to mount it!!!

[dullbird]

I'm thinking back over 7 years... And sorry DB, dont have any other shots from other angles good enough to focus that point.

BUT, I believe it was mounted using a crush tube (spacer) and a rectangular piece of plate with the bolt hole dia. drilled into it... So YES, it uses that area, but you appear to be missing a few bits...



TIP: Fit the rear mounts where they should be, loosely.
Then lift the front into position and fit. You'll then know exactly where you need to mount it!!
!


Yes we did and it came to that third hole......but couldn't understand why the hole on the bashplate bracket would not line up with the hole in the chassis.....

it seems a lot of work grinding down a bracket etc etc to fit something that effectivley should just bolt straight on. thats why we weren't sure if we had missed something.

[Tombie]

Look closely at this AMV pic and you can see the bolt sticking out from where we are referring to.

http://www.amv.com.au/images/Acc/SPB/steeringprobarlarge.jpg

[sclarke]

yes... there has to be a 3rd hole back towards the front diff from the bull bar holes...

[Tombie]

Yes we did and it came to that third hole......but couldn't understand why the hole on the bashplate bracket would not line up with the hole in the chassis.....

it seems a lot of work grinding down a bracket etc etc to fit something that effectivley should just bolt straight on. thats why we weren't sure if we had missed something.

There should be in the AMV 'kit'

1x Alloy Plate
2x End mount plates
2x Crush Tubes
2x Rectangular plates (fit into outside of chassis near mount)
And the bolts, washers etc..

Reason it doesnt mount to the front holes is SRS vehicles! And it will foul the common winch mounts and bullbars if it went in the front holes.

No-one said its a bolt up job :D But then neither are the bullbars ;)

[Tombie]

Oh, yes, and theres NO grinding of the vehicle, just the hole...

Get some flat bar to fit in the mount... And some pipe as a crush tube...

Shouldnt be too hard, and DW would most likely have some bits around his place...

[dullbird]

yes... there has to be a 3rd hole back towards the front diff from the bull bar holes...


Clarkie you must of taken these bits of the car......when you pulled the guard off....do you still have them?

[dullbird]

Thanks Tombie appreicate your help :)

[sclarke]

Clarkie you must of taken these bits of the car......when you pulled the guard off....do you still have them?

Nope as the bolts in the bar went with the bar and there was no crush tube...

[dullbird]

Nope as the bolts in the bar went with the bar and there was no crush tube...

Doesn't share the bolts with the bar it mounts in a seperate position....

[Col.Coleman]

I am unable to save the photo and shop it to point out what I mean, but if you have a look above the plates and focus on the nuts, then draw a parrallel accross the chassis rail to where the bolt heads emerge you would see that they do not connect to the bar mounting bolts. Hence the 3rd bolt position inside the framing for the body mount.

Just like Tombie's photo shows.

CC

[sclarke]

Doesn't share the bolts with the bar it mounts in a seperate position....

The bar that this car had was a Custom Winch bar and it was bolted thru the same bolt hole.

When i sold the bar i gave him the bolts and the car has long gone. so i can look to see if it had crush tubes or not.

[dullbird]

The bar that this car had was a Custom Winch bar and it was bolted thru the same bolt hole.

When i sold the bar i gave him the bolts and the car has long gone. so i can look to see if it had crush tubes or not.


Bugger!!

Thanks anyway!!!!........geez I hate it when I get something and I cant fit it coz things are missing:(

[sclarke]

Simple....
I'll refund you the purchase price and i will organise to get it back to vic.
I honestly did not know they drilled another hole in the chassis. Suppose we all assume things just bolt up.......

[trobbo]

I'm currently in Canberra but will get home tomorrow. I have an AMV steering protector bolted to my 94 ES (so it has air bags) and will get some pics posted on Tuesday.

I have had my guard off and I am pretty sure that it does not have crush tubes and also fairly certain that no extra drilling was required... But as said I will take some pics and post them so you can see how it is mounted.

[dullbird]

Simple....
I'll refund you the purchase price and i will organise to get it back to vic.
I honestly did not know they drilled another hole in the chassis. Suppose we all assume things just bolt up.......

??????

I'm not asking for a refund!! You know what its like you get something new that you have wanted just frustrating when you cant fit it right away! I will sort it out its fine I was only asking in the hope that you might have forgotten that you had taken other bits off with it.

and I have no idea what your talking about in regards to drilling.....the hole is already there in the chassis bullbar uses the first 2 the third is taken up by the guard.:)

[hook]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/https://www.aulro.com/afvb/Hope it's not too hard.
just open my box.
It has the plate, 2 arms and a bag of 4 nuts/bolts
No instructions.
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I hate loading pics

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[dullbird]

only two of your pictures loaded......looks exactly the same as what I got lets see how easy it is for you to put on:)

[trobbo]

ok I'm home from canberra. I cant find the cable to upload pics from my camera to my computer but here goes.

Move the guard back one bolt hole on the chassis and all should be good.

The front bolt hole on the steering guard side plate lines up with the single hole in the chassis, in the A frame section under the forward most body mount.

The rear bolt hole lines up with the tubular section on the underside of the chassis where I think the original steering protector bolts to.

Sometimes it is easier to disassemble the guard and fit the two side plates and then re-attach the rest of it.

[dullbird]

ok I'm home from canberra. I cant find the cable to upload pics from my camera to my computer but here goes.

Move the guard back one bolt hole on the chassis and all should be good.



The front bolt hole on the steering guard side plate lines up with the single hole in the chassis, in the A frame section under the forward most body mount.

The rear bolt hole lines up with the tubular section on the underside of the chassis where I think the original steering protector bolts to.

Sometimes it is easier to disassemble the guard and fit the two side plates and then re-attach the rest of it.

Thanks mate we got that far:)...did your single hole under the body mount line up ok with the bracket on plate.....ares doesn't it appears we are going to have to cut what looks like a stones sheild of some sort for the radiator...Still pics would be good when you get a chance

Thanks again

Lou

[lokka]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/https://www.aulro.com/afvb/Hope it's not too hard.
just open my box.
It has the plate, 2 arms and a bag of 4 nuts/bolts
No instructions.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/04/861.jpghttp://www.aulro.com/app/showphoto.php/photo/13579http://www.aulro.com/app/data/500/thumbs/S3701012.JPG
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I hate loading pics

only 2 pics
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What a shiddy set up that is there are no bolts that mount the side brackets to the chassis unless you never pictured them :o:o

DB by the looks of your first pics maby you will need to drill the 3rd single hole right through ya chassis i had to do this to fit a bar to a rangie once before and i also fitted a crush tube and flat washer made from 5mm flat bar ;)

[trobbo]

Thanks mate we got that far:)...did your single hole under the body mount line up ok with the bracket on plate.....ares doesn't it appears we are going to have to cut what looks like a stones sheild of some sort for the radiator...Still pics would be good when you get a chance

Thanks again

Lou

Yeah mine lines up ok so there was no extra drilling required. My arb bull bar serves to reinforce the inside of the chassis and on the outside I have a thick washer. It is possible to crush the chassis but I dont do it up THAT tight.

Remember this thing is designed as a steering protector and so it hangs down to protect your steering arms and the panhard rod. It is still possible to bend arms with these things fitted, but it is more likely when the front axle is articulating as the steering components then have to drop down to follow the axle movement.

My car is down at the auto elecs atm so I will have a look at what protection it gives to the radiator later today

[dullbird]

Yeah mine lines up ok so there was no extra drilling required. My arb bull bar serves to reinforce the inside of the chassis and on the outside I have a thick washer. It is possible to crush the chassis but I dont do it up THAT tight.

Remember this thing is designed as a steering protector and so it hangs down to protect your steering arms and the panhard rod. It is still possible to bend arms with these things fitted, but it is more likely when the front axle is articulating as the steering components then have to drop down to follow the axle movement.


My car is down at the auto elecs atm so I will have a look at what protection it gives to the radiator later today

next to none......I'm not looking to protect the radiator I'm mearly saying I will have to cut a small amount from a stone guard just below it in able to fit the guard up as it interfears with the fitting of the guard!
when we fit it I will take pics......

and to the other guys that have kindly replied.....i dont need to drill the chassis as said before the hole is there! its just my bracket doesn't line up hole to hole because of this little bit of metal that hangs down from the stone guard thingy.

We are going to cut it with tin snips hopefully and fold it back it looks as simple as that....wouldn't want to remove it altogther as i think it is protecting the bottom of the rad something I dont think the guard will do that greatly:)

[trobbo]

I'm a retard and can't attach pics. email to be sent