Half cut?

[eb220]

All,

Doing some thinking over the weekend, oh-oh.

Does anyone know any wreckers that would do a P38 HSE front half cut? Looking at doing a full engine conversion in my RRC 3.9l auto.

Cheers

Chris

[p38arover]

Where are you located?

[eb220]

Ron,

I'm in Canberra.

[p38arover]

Contact AndrewE on this forum (Son of Bundalene on eBay). He's in Western Sydney.

I suggest you update your profile to show your location. See the User CP menu.

[Slunnie]

Contact AndrewE on this forum (Son of Bundalene on eBay). He's in Western Sydney.

I suggest you update your profile to show your location. See the User CP menu.
x2!!!!!

I did an engine/gearbox conversion with the motor supplied by Andy. He makes it way too easy by including absolutely everything - down to the last nut, bolt and washer needed for the conversion. I'm 3.5 hours from Sydney and it is without a doubt worth the trip.

His user name on here is "andy e" I think.

[2door grover]

I mean this in in a nice way? but why would you put that engine in? sure they go in pretty easy but they don't make much power, use a fair bit of fueland cost heaps to buy and fix.

i have a hse 4.6 p38 on gas as a daily, its a great car on and off road but i would not spend all that money in putting the engine in a older range rover. i would go a vr 3.8 v6, 308, 350 or even look at some turbos before doing the 4.6l engine in a old range rover

[Slunnie]

Its bolt in, handles 4WDing angles and is alloy.

[2door grover]

bolts in is not worth the fuel bill, lack of power, slipped liners and what it costs in the 1st place. you can get gen3 chevs for the same price or even cheaper a 308 you can buy a kit for a weights about 50 kgs (lets face it thats a steel bull bar and winch with wire cable) more now thats not even thinking about a v6 that makes more power, weights the same and are every where. you just have to find a kit.

i don't mean to rub people the wrong way but the rover engines just don't add up when doing a engine conversion.

[Slunnie]

Perhaps, but they're still not Rover or bolt in.

I agree though and am a fan of the modern chevs. The next jigger which I'm starting to accumulate bits for I would love to do an LS1+ conversion to (actually, I'd really like an LS9 but I don't think so), but what gearbox do you adapt it to, or run the T700 and then adapt it again, then how do you stop the leaks that the T700/LT230 is notorious for if its rego'd, and then how long is it and whats the cost of shafts, what radiator, how to the shroud and then how much does it and then etc etc etc......... as I said, a really nice setup that I personally would like to pursuit a little later - but still very different to..... just bolt it in over the weekend and go driving.

[rovercare]

x2!!!!!

I did an engine/gearbox conversion with the motor supplied by Andy. He makes it way too easy by including absolutely everything - down to the last nut, bolt and washer needed for the conversion. I'm 3.5 hours from Sydney and it is without a doubt worth the trip.

His user name on here is "andy e" I think.

andrew e;)

No real point with the whole half cut, as you''ll only use the long motor anyhow, you'll have to change all auxillaries, and you won;t get the P38 engine management to work

[2door grover]

Perhaps, but they're still not Rover or bolt in.


this is the whole problem, just because you have a rover doesn't mean you have to keep it a rover engine and every thing that goes with them :wasntme:

just my 2 cents. and if any one know where there is a addapter for a v6/th700/lt95 around please let me know. i can't find the guy that made them.

[Slunnie]

this is the whole problem, just because you have a rover doesn't mean you have to keep it a rover engine and every thing that goes with them :wasntme:

just my 2 cents. and if any one know where there is a addapter for a v6/th700/lt95 around please let me know. i can't find the guy that made them.

I'm not a purist at all, though many are. It's something that I find interesting and odd as many would consider putting "Jap Crap" into their Landys as its not Rover, but will put in Maxidrive, Coopers, Various springs and shocks etc etc etc etc. So I did a poll to work out whats what.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/technical-chatter/49079-good-rover-bad-rover-mongrel-dog.html

Re the adaptor, do you mean LT95 or LT230? The only LT95 adaptor I've seen has been to a C4 auto and was more of an engineering job than a bolt on adaptor.

[2door grover]

no i'm after the one for the lt95, there was one on here but the guy gave it away before i got onto him :mad:

as far as i know they were made by rovercare in vic

[rovercare]

no i'm after the one for the lt95, there was one on here but the guy gave it away before i got onto him :mad:

as far as i know they were made by rovercare in vic

Rovacentre in skye I believe it was, USED to make t700 to LT95 adaptors, Vern is the man with the info on this

[Slunnie]

Here it is.

Message - AULRO Classifieds (http://www.aulro.com/apc/showproduct.php/product/712/cat/14)

[eb220]

andrew e;)

No real point with the whole half cut, as you''ll only use the long motor anyhow, you'll have to change all auxillaries, and you won;t get the P38 engine management to work

Rovercare,

Why wouldn't the 4.6 engine management work if I do a complete swap? Although it is a different vehicle, I have done this same sort of swap to an EB falcon 6cyl which is now powered completely by an AU falcon V8 including engine and body management.

Chris

[p38arover]

The alarm system is required to mobilise the engine management system.

[LOVEMYRANGIE]

this is the whole problem, just because you have a rover doesn't mean you have to keep it a rover engine and every thing that goes with them :wasntme:

just my 2 cents. and if any one know where there is a adapter for a v6/th700/lt95 around please let me know. i can't find the guy that made them.

Thats the other problem, what happens when you break something and you "cant find the guy......." etc etc etc.

Think you just put water on your fire!!

[2door grover]

Thats the other problem, what happens when you break something and you "cant find the guy......." etc etc etc.

Think you just put water on your fire!!

i'm just tight and don't want to fork out for a new one :D

[rovercare]

Rovercare,

Why wouldn't the 4.6 engine management work if I do a complete swap? Although it is a different vehicle, I have done this same sort of swap to an EB falcon 6cyl which is now powered completely by an AU falcon V8 including engine and body management.

Chris

Thats a **** easy conversion, just need smartlock overridden and your off:D, My first car was an XF with EL XR6 4L, T5 and slippery.....done plenty more ford since then:eek:

Both the GEMS and Bosch engine management are heavily interfaced with the BCM in a P38.............although I've only ever though of trying to fit an LS1 and how to talk to the BCm, maybe the ECU is easier, anyone got some P38 wiring diagrams?

[Hoges]

The blokes in the UK (LS1power) who were pioneering the P38A LS1 transplant actually matched the LS1 engine to the rover ZF transmission using a specially cast bellhousing which then required specific machining. On their original (but now defunct) website, they reported using all the original rover/Bosch etc sensors /electronics so as to retain compatibility with the BECM...I guess this would include crank/cam sensors as well as the throttle positioning sensor. The final product was then converted to run on lpg!

I was able to email them just before they closed up shop...they explained that they had a pile of bell housings needing machining ---I suspect they ran into cash flow difficulties...bloody shame...maybe we need to sponsor their emigration here!:cool: