six stud land rover??

[seriesly]

bought another series off ebay sight unseen..(i like surprises)

302 windsor/c4 and a minature transfer,has ASCO cast in the top and is about half the size of a series transfer...any ideas what it is?

also has diffs that look like early rover ones but a bit bigger,drums that arent landy(finned) and a huge thing coming out of the rear hubs(looks like freewheel hubs)..oh and six wheel studs...again,any ideas??

general opinion is toyota(neighbours,postman,amway man etc)

i dont break diffs usually,but i have issues with series brakes,so these diffs are appealing to me for the brakes

cheers,seriesly

[Redback]

bought another series off ebay sight unseen..(i like surprises)

302 windsor/c4 and a minature transfer,has ASCO cast in the top and is about half the size of a series transfer...any ideas what it is?

also has diffs that look like early rover ones but a bit bigger,drums that arent landy(finned) and a huge thing coming out of the rear hubs(looks like freewheel hubs)..oh and six wheel studs...again,any ideas??

general opinion is toyota(neighbours,postman,amway man etc)

i dont break diffs usually,but i have issues with series brakes,so these diffs are appealing to me for the brakes

cheers,seriesly

Photos might help, as all Jap wheels are six stud, except for the latest Cruisers that are 5 stud.

Baz.

[hook]

I think, THINK, the 101 had 6 studs???????????????

look in the 101 section on this fourm?

[Slunnie]

Sounds like a Toyota transfer case and Toyota axles.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

I think, THINK, the 101 had 6 studs???????????????

look in the 101 section on this fourm?The 101 has 6 studs with a very large PCD but Land Rover looking rims, F&R Salisbury diffs, regular Land Rover 11" drums and Range Rover/Defender track width.

The give-away that it's not Land Rover 101 is the part about "huge thing coming out of the rear hubs" and Rover looking diffs, makes me go towards the Jap, probably Toyota.

Wether they have a right offset to the rear diff will also indicate most likely Toyota.

What are the rims? Split rims with a spring steel band?

Diana

[seriesly]

hi diana,

the diff centres are on the right side for a landy

i know pics would help immensely,i will have another go at posting

definately not 101 or heavy duty landy at all

i have seen these things on the rear hub before but cant recall on what

im not sure what to do with this one as i bought it for the 302 and spares

but theres not much landy left:eek:mechanically anyways

[discowhite]

sounds like F100 9'' diffs?
or maybe pootroll


cheers phil

[seriesly]

Sounds like a Toyota transfer case and Toyota axles.

i might have a squiz at your old posts,slunnie

you were playing with toyota axles for a while iirc

[Slunnie]

No problems.

I did a google search and it seems that for a time (not sure how long) that Toyota did use an ASCO designation or named transfer case which was a part time unit.

The first Landy I did used Hilux axles which had small centers much like a Rover diff, the rear was centered and there is no hub on the rear that protrudes through the rim.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/272.jpg

But I suspect it will be similar to these which are 60 series rims which are very very similar to 40 series rims which will allow the tyres fit under a LandRover guard. Bigger diff nuggets, offset front and rear diffs to the drivers side and the rear hub protrudes through the rim.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/04/782.jpg

The freewheeling hubs on the front may vary but are all interchangable, but you can see the wheel stud pattern.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Your SIIa hybrid looks a bit better than when I saw it at Kings S! :)

[Slunnie]

Your SIIa hybrid looks a bit better than when I saw it at Kings S! :)
:lol2:

Yeah, it was a bit rough, but paint does a lot! :D

This is it at the moment, but still a bit to go. I bought a Stage1 grill for it, but recently I was thinking that I might put it back to the Series3 plastic grill.... it just looked a bit more interesting. Bar work to come also.


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/04/769.jpg

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Slunnie

There is something nice about the look of the SIII grille. Perhaps something in between????

Have you done anything about the suspension, Bobslandies showed me some info on a plastic membrane that gets adhered to one side of each leaf that allows the adjacent leaf to work more easily giving results approaching that of parabolics.

Thought I may give it a try with one of my SIIBs.

Diana

[Slunnie]

The membrane sounds interesting - I'd be interested to hear how you go with it. The springs are still to be done. I've been speaking with King Springs in QLD about having some new ones made. They will be about 2" lifted and 200-220lb/in with the leading sides of both front and rears 35mm longer and cut to adapt the Rover hangers to Cruiser axle pads and allow for the slight difference in perch seperation at the front. A lot of the tech in rates and cambers is coming from Ben aka Isuzurover who has spent some time on this. I think King have some thoughts about increasing articulation from them also. I cant do this until last though.

[hook]

I think, THINK, the 101 had 6 studs???????????????

look in the 101 section on this fourm?


I'll go back to my corner now!:angel:

[Lotz-A-Landies]

sounds like F100 9'' diffs?
or maybe pootroll

cheers phil Ford 9" diffs have a very unusual housing with reinforcing webs from the axle housing to the diff banjo on both top and bottom, not Rover looking at all. However the big thing protruding through the hubs could easily be the fully floating hub from some of the larger Ford "pickups". Although thinking about Ford F250s didn't they have eight stud PCD?

Diana

[discowhite]

Ford 9" diffs have a very unusual housing with reinforcing webs from the axle housing to the diff banjo on both top and bottom, not Rover looking at all. However the big thing protruding through the hubs could easily be the fully floating hub from some of the larger Ford "pickups". Although thinking about Ford F250s didn't they have eight stud PCD?

Diana

the only ''ribs'' ive ever seen on 9'' diffs are on the nodular iron center housings not the diff case?

cheers phil

[Lotz-A-Landies]

the only ''ribs'' ive ever seen on 9'' diffs are on the nodular iron center housings not the diff case?

cheers philPhil

They weren't ribs but more like the reinforcing on the underside of the Land Rover axle casings with Rover diffs. Perhaps it is the shape of the top and bottom elements of the actual housing that flare up to the top of the banjo giving the impression of a diamond shape lying on its side with a curve at the top and bottom around the banjo.

Still in my way of thinking not very Rover looking at all. I recently rejected purchase of an ex-military Vietnam vet 109" because of the Ford 9" diffs being unable to be disguised as either Rover or Salisbury diffs. from the rear. Even if I did paint the centre white.

[Slunnie]

And a lot of people would have bought it purely for the Ford 9" diffs!

[Lotz-A-Landies]

And a lot of people would have bought it purely for the Ford 9" diffs!I still can! But there is a lot of metal worm in the firewall and doortops, a Holden 186 with not many of the military fittings left.

It even has Detroit Locker centre as a spare.

[isuzurover]

...Bobslandies showed me some info on a plastic membrane that gets adhered to one side of each leaf that allows the adjacent leaf to work more easily giving results approaching that of parabolics.



Fitting plastic between the leaves is quite common. The first time I saw it was on a 1979 Mitsubishi Lancer.

I don't think it is usually adhered to the leaves though - doubt you could get it to adhere for long anyway.

A coat of spray-grease or motorcycle chain lube applied between the leaves periodically helps (I put wheel ramps under opposite corners - to slightly cross axle the vehicle - and apply it to the 2 springs which are in tension (drooping)).

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Fitting plastic between the leaves is quite common. The first time I saw it was on a 1979 Mitsubishi Lancer.

I don't think it is usually adhered to the leaves though - doubt you could get it to adhere for long anyway. .....This was a specialised poly tape with a new generation adhesive. It is ideally applied to new spring leaves, otherwise you have to remove all signs of rust and scale from the leaves before application of the tape and before the spring pack is assembled.

It would probably work the same a lubricated leaves but not attract grit which act as an abrasive to the springs.

I have a friend with an SIII diesel trayback who suspends the vehicle on is hoist with the axles dangling in mid air, he then sprays old sump oil from his Mack into the leaves with a kero gun then cleans everything up. The vehicle rides like its new. He also had a Defender trayback that never gets driven because he prefers the SIII. Go figure.

Diana

Try Poly-slide (http://www.restorationstuff.com/RSC27.pdf) which is a non adhesive type, still looking for the one in question.

[cal415]

if both diffs are offset to the drivers side then its probobly toyota axles, probobly 60 series.

[isuzurover]

This was a specialised poly tape with a new generation adhesive. It is ideally applied to new spring leaves, otherwise you have to remove all signs of rust and scale from the leaves before application of the tape and before the spring pack is assembled.

It would probably work the same a lubricated leaves but not attract grit which act as an abrasive to the springs.

I have a friend with an SIII diesel trayback who suspends the vehicle on is hoist with the axles dangling in mid air, he then sprays old sump oil from his Mack into the leaves with a kero gun then cleans everything up. The vehicle rides like its new. He also had a Defender trayback that never gets driven because he prefers the SIII. Go figure.

Diana

Try Poly-slide (http://www.restorationstuff.com/RSC27.pdf) which is a non adhesive type, still looking for the one in question.

Thanks for that - took a while to find... The stuff fitted to the lancer springs seemed like nylon, but I suppose UHMWPE sounds more like it. I can't see any advantage on having it bonded to one side of each leaf though. But sikaflex would probably do the job - if anything.

I have never seen this mythical "springs being worn by grit" effect. But I have seen plenty of dry rusty springs that have worn significantly. Good spring steel is extremely hard, so I'm sure the grit wouldn't do much more than give the spring a light facial ;)

[seriesly]

fj 45 toyota axles and p/t transfer

they have bracing welded on them exactly like 2a ex-mil rover diffs

i wouldnt mind those 9inch ford diffs though:angel:

thanks seriesly