import job

[biggerlandy]

hi all whats the script with modified landys on your test (mot her in england) to get it in the country.
I have megga modified suspension and side exit exhaust with no boxes to name a few mods. Can you also tell me what your emmisions limits are and possibly where is the best dock to get it shipped to in nsw

[JDNSW]

From what I understand of your modifications, it is unlikely that your Landrover could be used on the road in Australia. Despite the fact that all states are supposed to have the same standards, the method of implementation and the interpretation of them varies from state to state.

But in general, the problems you are likely to find is that there are specific maximum lifts and tyre size increases, which cannot be exceeded either in any circumstances or I think in some states can be exceeded by undertaking very expensive testing. Most states are very tough on the methods used to modify steering and suspension. For example, wheel spacers and adapters are illegal in most if not all states, no discussion, and there are similar blanket bans on some other modifications.

I doubt that the side exhaust is legal in any state, although you may get away with it with open bodywork and only front seats. Assuming it is a turbo diesel, noise is likely to be within limits.

Emissions are likely to be less of a problem than in the UK. Although in theory the engine must be certified as ADR compliant, this will not be checked after initial registration unless someone complains. (at worst you may have to return it to standard for the inspection and then refit the modifications)

The procedure is generally that for a non-standard vehicle, all modifications (and variations from vehicles with Australian approval) will have to be inspected by an approved engineer (at your expense) and any rectifications he demands carried out. A study of the relevant government website (domain will be <agency>.<state abbreviation>.gov.au - e.g. rta.nsw.gov.au) would clarify the requirements and procedures, although they are full of rather vague cross references and some of the websites are pretty hard to follow.

Note that approval and registration in one state does not carry over to another state - if you change states you have to do it all again in general, so you need to bring it in in the state you plan to live, which means there is little choice of port.

I am sure some who have brought in cars will have specific details about importing, but I seem to have heard of major problems with cleaning of vehicles from the UK - there are serious quarantine concerns about getting even small traces of soil from the UK because of the desire to keep Australia free from foot and mouth disease.

John

[Bigbjorn]

My past experiences with Queensland Transport lead me to believe that they will consider an extensively modified vehicle to be an "individually constructed vehicle". If so, it will have to comply with the Australian Design Rules (ADR's) in force as at the date presented for registration. You will need to employ an "approved person", an engineer, to inspect and report on the vehicle's compliance with the ADR's and to ensure that the necessary modifications are competently and safely carrried out.

As a minimum you will probably have to change tyres, seat belts and maybe their anchorages, fit side intrusion bars into the doors. Be aware that a model not sold in Australia or a highly modified vehicle will be a source of frustration and possibly heartbreak when going through this procedure with the bureaucrats. You can find the ADR's on the internet, and you should contact the relevant federal departments for permission to import.

In my experience, all state registration authorities are "difficult" to deal with, some more than others. None of them like modified vehicles and do their best to limit and discourage them.

Perhaps it would be easier to strip your trick bits off and ship them as parts which you can use to build up a locally purchased vehicle.

[scott oz]

Don't know about other states but in NSW you can bring your exhaust out the side provided it is 18 inches behind the last opening (side) which on my 110 is the rear side window.

The reason I know is that I was thinking of doing it last month when I had the center pipe removed and the exhaust bloke told me that was the regulations in NSW.

If you do get it registered in one state then generally you will have no problems driving in other states.

Ariels are one thing that are now receiving a lot of attention not only on the bumper but also obstructing vision if mounted on the guards.

[Psimpson7]

You really need to speak to an RTA approved engineer and not take internet info as gospel.

Everyone told me I would have no chance to get mine registered, but i brought it over anyway and got it engineered and registered easily.

NSW seems to allow more that QLD aswell so you have a chance.

Rgds
Pete.

[Reads90]

hi all whats the script with modified landys on your test (mot her in england) to get it in the country.
I have megga modified suspension and side exit exhaust with no boxes to name a few mods. Can you also tell me what your emmisions limits are and possibly where is the best dock to get it shipped to in nsw


mm what are your mods on your Surpension and what car do you have and what engine

Also is your exhaust legal in the Uk if not then it won't be here.

Also the emissions are done on the year of car manufacutre and not year of import

Ali

[biggerlandy]

as for exhaust i am gonna put it back to standard for trip for the suspension it fully dislocates under extreme articulation the springs are held in place by means of a clamp and when it all comes back down to level there are guides to help springs back into place its a 300 tdi on a 85 plate landrover defender

[dullbird]

as for exhaust i am gonna put it back to standard for trip for the suspension it fully dislocates under extreme articulation the springs are held in place by means of a clamp and when it all comes back down to level there are guides to help springs back into place its a 300 tdi on a 85 plate landrover defender

it doesn't sound any different to what people have over here.....I was expecting super modification to suspension.

whether or not the engineer will pass that I cant comment. But if its just relocation cones you have on your suspension then just remove then. do you have adjust shock mounts as well?

[cal415]

just retain the springs top and bottom, bring it over, get it rego'd then put your dislocation gear back on.... if you have modified shock mounts you may need to return them to stock for rego purposes. Have you modifed the links at all?

[p38arover]

Ariels are one thing that are now receiving a lot of attention not only on the bumper but also obstructing vision if mounted on the guards.

Yep, having one of these mounted on your car will cause problems:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/04/521.jpg

As will one of these:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/04/522.jpg


:p:p

[Bigbjorn]

That is a very early Squariel.

[dullbird]

just retain the springs top and bottom, bring it over, get it rego'd then put your dislocation gear back on.... if you have modified shock mounts you may need to return them to stock for rego purposes. Have you modifed the links at all?


Shouldn't have to retain springs top and bottom as they never came out of factory like that.

my disco only had the top spring seat and I'm pretty sure it was the same for the defender they weren't retained at the bottom or the top

[biggerlandy]

no i have alterd any arm joints just poly bushed them all i have in that way is lower front shock turrets and realy long travel shocks on back mounting points are the same as landrover out of factory ive tried to keep it simple for when things break out in the bush

[Reads90]

no i have alterd any arm joints just poly bushed them all i have in that way is lower front shock turrets and realy long travel shocks on back mounting points are the same as landrover out of factory ive tried to keep it simple for when things break out in the bush

Ok so bascically all you have is a polybush kit and a standard scorpion surpension kit of 2 inch lift with dislocating cones .But you don't have the bent rear radius arms . And not the £2000 italin scorpion copy extreme and stupid kit then :)

No problem with your surpension as said most landies here in Aus have more extreme surpension than yours has anyway

As for the side exhaust there is a disco 2 in 4wd Aus this month with a side exhaust so can't imaging it is that ilegal .

What do you plan to do with the truck when you get it here . And what truck is it 90/110

[Reads90]

NSW seems to allow more that QLD aswell so you have a chance.

Rgds
Pete.

thats interesting Pete i was told it was the other way round . Although never tried NSW . But before i came here Bucky told me it was easyer into Qld than NSw . But that was when he was shipping his rangie over here for the Outback . He was told that by AMR in NSW

[biggerlandy]

its a 90 and when i get to you guys i plan to do trips etc in it and carry on doing challenge events etc the more crazy the betterhttp://mybabt002

[biggerlandy]

ps dont swear at me USING scrapion gear how dare you :o;):twisted:

[Reads90]

ps dont swear at me USING scrapion gear how dare you :o;):twisted:

:D:D

I had a winch challenge 90 in the uk but did not bring it out to Aus because they are more speed events and need a v8 most of the time and also alot of rock climbing.Will find them pretty differant to the Uk ones .

I drove around Aus in a 90 , have a look here Where we are at the moment (http://www.reads4x4.com/where_we_are_at_the_moment.htm). Beware they are small and you need to think about what you need to take and where you are going to put it all. I have a soft top but even with a hard top can be a bit tight for all the stuff you need . I have twin fuel tanks as you will need them if you want to go any distance .

Where in the Uk are you

[biggerlandy]

cheers or that im in torquay devon

[biggerlandy]

hi all please need help can not find info on why i need to put standard wheel and tyres back on my landy when i import it, if i need to and why etc could some one please explain

[Reads90]

hi all please need help can not find info on why i need to put standard wheel and tyres back on my landy when i import it, if i need to and why etc could some one please explain


We need to now more about your truck. put a pic up or tell us some more details . Like what size of tyres and make do you have . Manily because the rules on tyres change from state to state in Aus .
As you said you did winch challenges
Do you have lockers , Maxi drive shafts , Winch front or rear , roll cage 36" tyres . as i said what is the spec on your truck

This was my winch challenge 90

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/04/120.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/04/121.jpg

And this was my 90 that i imported into Australia

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/04/122.jpg

[Psimpson7]

If they are of a reasonable size you should be ok.

Mine came over on 255/85 r16s on modular steels and that caused no issue.

If you send it over on 35 extremes or similar you may get problems

[biggerlandy]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/04/77.jpg

no lockers at mo 3 inch lift hankook rto3 315/75/16 on mach 5 9x16 rims

[biggerlandy]

oh and roll cage going on soon

[Reads90]

no https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/04/77.jpglockers at mo 3 inch lift hankook rto3 315/75/16 on mach 5 9x16 rims


Ahh they are 35" . Not too big then . QLD i think has a limit of 42"
Do you have streghten shafts for those tyres. as they are pretty good at blowing landy half shafts. well my 35" simex extreme treckers were :)

[Psimpson7]

Ali, I dont believe you can get tyres engineered at all in Qld?

The cage should be fine, as long as its done properly, as there is a mod code for that.

It will need to be engineered though.

[Reads90]

Ali, I dont believe you can get tyres engineered at all in Qld?

The cage should be fine, as long as its done properly, as there is a mod code for that.

It will need to be engineered though.

mmm don't really know much about max tyres sizes in Qld
Although i do know you don't need those size of tyres to tour around Aus . More of a pain than an advantage .

[Bigbjorn]

Check Transport Queensland's web site. It is quite specific about permitted tyre and wheel sizes and offsets. You probably need to look under "modifications".

[isuzurover]

mmm don't really know much about max tyres sizes in Qld
Although i do know you don't need those size of tyres to tour around Aus . More of a pain than an advantage .

Here are the rules:
http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/resources/file/ebde8d0521b67c6/Pdf_modification_motor_vehicles2.pdf

as it says on p 18, an increase in diameter of +15mm over standard is the maximum allowed. It is not possible to engineer a vehicle for a larger size tyre than that in QLD.

Technically the conversion to a 300Tdi will need a modification plate (engineering approval).

If an external cage, just call it a ladder rack and it doesn't need a mod plate. A roll cage does, and you may need some sort of documentation from whoever made it.

[Reads90]

To Reads90,i remember reading an article on your 90 in a UK mag a few .years back,am i right?:)Good looking vehicle.:BigThumb: To return to the tyre thing,i was told that the mach5 wheels are illegal in Australia because of the offset.:thumbsdown: Not sure about this obviously, but maybe somebody knows.;)



Cheers
Yeah it was in a few but total off road mag did a feature on it

Ali

[4bd1discovery]

all of themods would be legal, we have more than that and all ours are registered.

[spudboy]

You'll have a LOT easier time of it if you present it as a 'standard' vehicle.

I have re-registered 7 or 8 interstate cars in Sth Aust so I've spent a bit of time waiting around the Dept of Transport inspection area. The ones that get done over with a fine toothed comb on the hoist are the modified ones.

Tyres and rims are easy to put back. Exhaust will have to be done. And you won't get a 3" lift past them, so standard springs back in.

If your engine/chassis numbers match the paperwork from the UK that will give you pretty smooth passage. I doubt that anyone will pay attention to the fact that it's got a TDI in it as they will assume it came out that way in the UK, even if LR Aust didn't sell them here.

HTH
David

[biggerlandy]

oh well acording to the regs my wheels are ok and if i stick to 2 " lift on suspension its ok and the roll cage is ok thanks all for your input

[biggerlandy]

as for the mach 5 wheels mine arnt the massive type they still sit flush with the arches

[4bd1discovery]

ILL BUY THE MACH 5'S!
i want some so badly

[dullbird]

ILL BUY THE MACH 5'S!
i want some so badly

If you want some so bad then buy the Zu rims they are alloy and a copy of the mach 5's they are in perth

but they are something like $430 a rim

[biggerlandy]

i will bring them wiyh me so you can drool :)

[4bd1discovery]

you can buy them in perth?!?!
what is the business. 430 a wheel, ill pay that,
the zu's dont have big offset, the max is 11mm isnt it?

[biggerlandy]

ok sorryto go on chaps getting a little confused i know first of i need to apply for a via then ship my landy out get looked at for being cleen etc then pay taxes and duties etc what happens next so i can just go and drive my landy

[Yorkshire_Jon]

ok sorryto go on chaps getting a little confused i know first of i need to apply for a via then ship my landy out get looked at for being cleen etc then pay taxes and duties etc what happens next so i can just go and drive my landy

When you looking to ship the 90 over? Are you emigrating?

[Reads90]

ok sorryto go on chaps getting a little confused i know first of i need to apply for a via then ship my landy out get looked at for being cleen etc then pay taxes and duties etc what happens next so i can just go and drive my landy


You need to apply for an import approval for your car which can take up to six weeks to get . No company will even load the car on to a ship to be shipped with out this form . (as if they arrive in Aus with out it , the shipping company will be fined and the car will be crushed)

The car will need to be cleaned within an inch of its life. But 99.999% of the time the quarrenten here will clean it here at a cost of $450 .

If you are going to import the car permently then
You will need to pay 10% custom duty and 10% GST (VAT) on the value of the car.

Then you will need to get the car check by a inspector ($270 when i did it ) that will tell you what if any mods you will need to do to get the car legal for australia. He will also check the car matches the one you pllied the import approval for . He will then put an import modication plate on the car. Then you need to get the car roadworthied (mot'ed) and then inspected by the department of transport


Mate do us a favour and gives us a bit of help and tell us where you are bring the car in , when , and what you are going to do here. In others words are you going to travel around aus and then go back to the uk (if so you need to speak to Camel Landy as he did it with his camel trophy 110 , along with leeds )or are you going to import the car to live here for every as there are a few of us here that have done this already

Ali

[spudboy]

As Ali asked in his last para - is the car coming out permanently or are you just 'passing through'.

If you're only bringing it out here temporarily (up to a year) you'll need to get a Carnet du Passage from the UK (I think the AA are the only people who do this). It is like a passport for your car, and basically ensures that you will return it to the UK when you have finished visiting or forfeit a whole pile of money.

[biggerlandy]

sorry guys i am immigrateing coming to the land of the sun will be moving to nsw not sure where yet in nsw coming over till i die

[biggerlandy]

just started doing paper work to move over so sometime in next 18 months

[scott oz]

Mate,

My understanding is that if you re migrating to the land of OZ you will pay no tax. But you will need to get it registered in accordance with local regs. Now again my understanding is if it is a model that has been brought into Australia then you only have to comply with those complinace laws as applied to the model imported by LR. My suggestion would be to put all the the good stuff on before you bring it in. A worst you can sell the parts

[muddymech]

[quote=scott oz;968700]Mate,

My understanding is that if you re migrating to the land of OZ you will pay no tax.



we are not that lucky, unless things have chenged in last couple of years everyone wants their bit of money on importing a car.
customs have import duty, rta have tax on purchase price and you need a dealer recipt if car not been owned for more than a year, bit hard at first for us as we only had a hand written recipt, the rta are not too good a deviating from what there cheat sheet says.
its not a cheap thing to do.

[dullbird]

Mate,


My understanding is that if you re migrating to the land of OZ you will pay no tax. But you will need to get it registered in accordance with local regs. Now again my understanding is if it is a model that has been brought into Australia then you only have to comply with those complinace laws as applied to the model imported by LR. My suggestion would be to put all the the good stuff on before you bring it in. A worst you can sell the parts

Yes he will have to pay tax!! and how much depends on the cars age and value.

[Psimpson7]

Yep, most likely 10% gst and 10% import duty