Bad camping ethics

[Savanahkelpy]

Ok, Has/did anyone else encounter negative behaviour from other campers, particularly over the easter break, or at any other time, for that matter? The area i picked to go camping at had other campers, (who had arrived on the friday, presumably) parking their cars and utes across the access road to prevent other people from getting to sites or just to keep a camp area for their exclusive use!,:mad: I figure they did me a favour as i was determined to go camping and used my 4wd, for what it was designed, and found a camp site that was bloody terrific!:p:D. No one else around therefore very quiet, a well grassed site, heaps of fire wood, no dust from passing traffic, no little piles of excrement left by previous lazy campers, and great fishing in the same river, 2 1/2 klms from them, :D. I think they did me a favour, as i intend going back to it.
Laurie

[MinniTheMoocha]

When camping we try to find a spot clear of louts and the general populace.

Still happy to see the odd passerby but hate the hoons especially if they are yah hooing around the place.

It happens.....

[Poida4x4]

Over easter and for the week after my girlfriend and I went camping at a quiet, unsignposted spot that we'd heard about and it was beautiful. There are several places to camp at this spot with one in particular being sensational. There were people camped at this spot when we first arrived so we found somewhere else to camp for that night. It was a great spot, but would be quite exposed during the day without any cover.

Anyway, the next day, the people in the other spot left and we moved in. In the early afternoon a german couple came down and had a look and eventually asked if we'd mind them setting up on the other side of the clearing, which we had no problem with.

Then about 45mins before sundown we were just getting dinner ready when a random person appeared and sussed out the area, walked back up the track and then guided her husband down to where we were. Out he got, and their two kids, and their big brown dog (we had our 10wk old puppy). The husband said "I hope you don't mind us camping here (right next to us), we don't want to cramp your style". I told him that when there were people camping here earlier, we found somewhere else. He ignored this and went about setting up his tent and listening to his music and holding back his dog. And then his kids started throwing rocks at our tent. And then we packed up and went back to the other spot just in time for burritos and a beautiful sunset. But we were grumpy.

Was this camper displaying acceptable camping ethics?

[mjm295]

Was this camper displaying acceptable camping ethics?

No - he wasn't circumcised either.... complete *****.

[Panda]

Don't like camping anywhere near people, so don't come across any problems.

[Bigbjorn]

I object to large club/family groups that monopolise facilities. By this I mean those who send along an advance party to take over the areas like tables and fireplaces by placing iceboxes and baskets on the tables in advance of the main party, and lagering vehicles around the fireplaces and tables. These groups are usually rowdy and late-to-bedders. Also these groups commonly have undisciplined children and dogs, both of which run amok, and should be considered outside the protection of law.

[Savanahkelpy]

I,m glad i did make the effort to find a further suitable camp site as at 2 1/2 kilometres or maybe a bit more, i could only just hear the doof-doof music, if the wind was blowing in the right, or is that, wrong direction. I go camping to get away from modern sound effects, (its not all music).
I guess thats the benefits of living in a big county like Oz, we still have choices and options.

[Blknight.aus]

yeah, IVe seen it fortunately a lot less than I've seen good behavior...

[Hymie]

I detest large groups of younger campers who insist on doof doof music into the wee small hours along with screaming and raucous laughter.
I find most of the above mentioned groups have campfires that would put Black Saturday to shame and when the leave in the morning, they almost always leave their fires going.

[Sleepy]

Yes I try and get far away as possible. Busy times like Easter and long weekends make it harder though.

I recall one time when a teenager on motorcycle insisted on riding in amongst our group of 10 vehicles and associated tents - because they had been there for the previous few days. Very dangerous - we had a number of young kids in the group.
I asked him to move elsewhere and got "the bird"

I approached their group and suggested to the father - perhaps he could ride down the road elsewhere - got another "bird". "We were here first"

They drank on to about 3am with the music blaring.

We had great pleasure at 7am when we broke camp. Making sure all 10 Landies had a good "warm up" - especially the V8's.:angel::twisted:

[weeds]

for the last 6 easters nothing better than going to our friends cattle property......2000 acres to ourselfs

1 and bit hours drive from brisbane
no camping fees
dogs allowed
unlimited wood for fires and building structures
spring fed creek
backs onto lake maroon
a few trackes to drive on
a great hill for watching sunsets over the border ranges
unlimited milk;)
and the list goes on

did i mention no body else but invited friends

[29dinosaur]

Some of the worst experiences of my life have been when we've been on the road and just dropped into caravan parks for the night for convenience. Number one was on a Friday night at Ballarat a few yeras back: blockheads from melbourne arrived and spent til 3 or 4am drinking xsivelly, shouting, playing doof doof music etc etc. Idiots - white trash. The other bad experience was at Warnambool about 30 years ago. I've never before see so many dropkicks who take along their televisions and radios when they go fishing. They just sat them up in their car boots and played them full blast - probably watching the Australian open or like...

Try to camp where no one else is located. Best to avoid public holiday weekends - brings out the loonies from the burbs.

[Sleepy]

for the last 6 easters nothing better than going to our friends cattle property......2000 acres to ourselfs

1 and bit hours drive from brisbane
no camping fees
dogs allowed
unlimited wood for fires and building structures
spring fed creek
backs onto lake maroon
a few trackes to drive on
a great hill for watching sunsets over the border ranges
unlimited milk;)
and the list goes on

did i mention no body else but invited friends

Ahhh the serenity!:D

[weeds]

Ahhh the serenity!:D

yup.....except when we fire up the chainsaws although there was no sun over easter so one of the guys fired up his gennie to top his batteries, he did have a long lead and placed the gennie in the creek bed......good thing was we didn't annoy any other groups

[Chenz]

Have been camping up the coast north of Forster for the past 15 years and got used to the crowds at Xmas. Have had no problems until two years ago when some mob turned up and decided that the other 200 people in the adjacent two sq kilometre area coud sit up all night and listen to their music bad jokes, swearing and wives having a fight about who was shagging who's husband.

I made a polite request to go to sleep at about 3am and was met at the door of my tent witha bloke holding a hammer wanting to argue the point.

Next morning myself and ten other persons spoke to the people in charge and they got their marching orders.

Great thing is my young bloke finishes Year 12 this year so we will go up there after the school holidays when you can fire a gun and not hit a soul.

I often wonder what it is about some people who could not give a tinkers cuss for anyone else but themselves. I cringe when I make a noise or do things to disturb others. This mob and their like minded counterparts should be given their own camping sites about 15 klms off the coast on a badly leaking barge!!!

[hiline]

I object to large club/family groups that monopolise facilities. By this I mean those who send along an advance party to take over the areas like tables and fireplaces by placing iceboxes and baskets on the tables in advance of the main party, and lagering vehicles around the fireplaces and tables. These groups are usually rowdy and late-to-bedders. Also these groups commonly have undisciplined children and dogs, both of which run amok, and should be considered outside the protection of law.


hate to say it but our group is normally a large group ;)
with plenty of kids and dogs..............

but none of them run riot or are undisciplined :(

but believe me i've seen some horrors out there

[bblaze]

The ones I hate the worst are the ones that are drunk as and come into your camp uninvited for a friendly dribble while you are sitting around the camp fire
cheers
blaze

[Sleepy]

You know, all these stories of unhappy camping experiences remind me why I got a 4wd. ;)

The easiest solution is to "head on up the road":D

[I Love My Landy!]

I had a d***head driving golf balls over our camp recently. I never noticed until he drove one straight into the side of my Dad's newly restored troopy as i was walking past it! Missed my head by about 6 inches and left a big dent in a very strong part of the panel between the side window and gutter. Neadless to say i had a big go at the coward (i found him hiding in his cabin) but would've had a bigger go if my mates weren't holding me back!

The next morning i went fishing in the adjacent river and noticed golf balls everywhere in the water! For the golf balls to land in that part of the water he must have been hitting them immediately behind our camp below head level!

[The ho har's]

for the last 6 easters nothing better than going to our friends cattle property......2000 acres to ourselfs

1 and bit hours drive from brisbane
no camping fees
dogs allowed
unlimited wood for fires and building structures
spring fed creek
backs onto lake maroon
a few trackes to drive on
a great hill for watching sunsets over the border ranges
unlimited milk;)
and the list goes on

did i mention no body else but invited friends



yad yada yada .........and when:angel:


Mrs ho har:angel:

[rovercare]

Mmmmm, altered Rodney Rude joke


"never had a bad camping experience..............may of given out a few but":angel:

[Lotz-A-Landies]

for the last 6 easters nothing better than going to our friends cattle property......2000 acres to ourselfs

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did i mention no body else but invited friendsWaddabout Daisy, and Buttercup and Bluebelle and ... etc so not all to hoofselfs! :D :D :D

And all the bleating, and mooing .....

[Bigbjorn]

Some of the worst experiences of my life have been when we've been on the road and just dropped into caravan parks for the night for convenience. Number one was on a Friday night at Ballarat a few yeras back: blockheads from melbourne arrived and spent til 3 or 4am drinking xsivelly, shouting, playing doof doof music etc etc. Idiots - white trash. The other bad experience was at Warnambool about 30 years ago. I've never before see so many dropkicks who take along their televisions and radios when they go fishing. They just sat them up in their car boots and played them full blast - probably watching the Australian open or like...

Try to camp where no one else is located. Best to avoid public holiday weekends - brings out the loonies from the burbs.

Avoid caravan parks that have a high proportion of permanent residents. Caravan park permanents tend to be of the feral unwashed tribes. Not all, of course, but a goodly proportion.

[The ho har's]

I sugest you go somewhere where none else goes:D
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Mrs ho har:angel:

[Chenz]

Sounds like the Louth Races Chenz ;) There's camping and there's camping eh? :D:D

You go to Louth races expecting it to be a sh*tfight and prepare accordingly - earplugs and get as full as the rest of them but in a bush camp or caravan park with heaps of other campers just a bit of common everyday do unto others courtesy is not too much to ask.

When we want to go wild and have movies and loud music we go out 35 klms away from the rest of society in the middle of the colo wilderness not 100 metres up the road from family Fred having a weekend away with er indoors and the youngens.

[Poida4x4]

This topic raises a few issues that occur to me regularly. I went to primary school in the Kimberley for a little while and we used to go visiting family there whenever we could as kids. When I grew up and left home I started going up there myself and used to have great experiences. Now though, it's getting really hard to find a place for just your mob.

Case in point is Palm Springs on the Duncan Hwy. I used to camp and swim there and see one car a day. Last time I camped there there were 4 other groups and now I've heard you're not allowed to swim there anymore.

This kind of change gives me the sh*ts but I'm not sure if that's fair. It's beautiful country, and what right do I have to get sh*tty when other people are there for the same reasons?

What ideas do you all have about keeping some places close to your chest and recommend other places to people?

[Savanahkelpy]

This topic raises a few issues that occur to me regularly. I went to primary school in the Kimberley for a little while and we used to go visiting family there whenever we could as kids. When I grew up and left home I started going up there myself and used to have great experiences. Now though, it's getting really hard to find a place for just your mob.

Case in point is Palm Springs on the Duncan Hwy. I used to camp and swim there and see one car a day. Last time I camped there there were 4 other groups and now I've heard you're not allowed to swim there anymore.

This kind of change gives me the sh*ts but I'm not sure if that's fair. It's beautiful country, and what right do I have to get sh*tty when other people are there for the same reasons?

What ideas do you all have about keeping some places close to your chest and recommend other places to people?

Keeping a camp site to yourself is all good and well, but as it often happens, the more a site is used or accessed, the more it becomes degraded simply by people going there. I would have liked to have camped at my original destination, because it would have kept environment changes configned to an area already subject to human intervention, caused by camping practices. I,d like to think that a more important aspect of camping is,, What are you doing/What can i do, to minimise your impact on a great site?
The next time i go back to that great easter camp site, i hope to have enough of the right camping gear to not need to use any fire wood, for starters. Bad camping ethics is not only the social behaviour of campers, but their camping impact on the site.
Laurie

[cucinadio]

yad yada yada .........and when:angel:


Mrs ho har:angel:



yhea .....what a show off......lol....:D

cheers

[bruiser69]

Over Xmas/New Year we took camper trailer to a quiet campground at Noosa (not telling where). We had booked & setup in an area well away from main group that were near amenities block. Just when we were starting to relax with cold drink in hand, a group of eight vehicles & two camper vans pulls up all around us. One of the men could see the astonishment on my face & approached me asking if it was OK to camp here. I told him definitely not, but had no objection to them setting up at least 5 metres away. He said he couldn't do this as camper vans were not allowed in that area, and ranger had given them permission to camp where we were. I told them were were not happy but they just continued to move in and set up camp.
We had no option but to move camp:mad:
We were glad we did as they carried on with loud music & generators every night. They were some religious group & Christian rock is not our favourite music!
I was considering purchase of a generator before this episode, but the noise & fumes have really put us off. We go away for peace & quiet & mostly in National Parks, so I think solar is the only option until fuel cells come down in price.

[clean32]

packing up early departing and leaving your camp fire burning???

[Binford]

It is heartening, in a sort of bizarre way, to know that this isn't just an "Ugly American" problem.

Reading these stories sounds just like the typical American experience as well.

Except that an irate loudmouth showing up at my family's tent door threatening us with a hammer after being politely asked to quiet down would have been met by the muzzle of my .45, but that's another matter all together I suppose....

We sold our 31-foot travel trailer a couple years ago because the only place we could camp with it was in your typical caravan park, packed with dozens and dozens of other people pretending that what they were doing was "getting away from it all." I'm all for camping in an area where the only trouble I need worry about is coming from the local critters looking for food.

[Treads]

for the last 6 easters nothing better than going to our friends cattle property......2000 acres to ourselfs

1 and bit hours drive from brisbane
no camping fees
dogs allowed
unlimited wood for fires and building structures
spring fed creek
backs onto lake maroon
a few trackes to drive on
a great hill for watching sunsets over the border ranges
unlimited milk;)
and the list goes on

did i mention no body else but invited friends

Are we friends? :angel: :D

[bruiser69]

It is heartening, in a sort of bizarre way, to know that this isn't just an "Ugly American" problem.

Reading these stories sounds just like the typical American experience as well.

Except that an irate loudmouth showing up at my family's tent door threatening us with a hammer after being politely asked to quiet down would have been met by the muzzle of my .45, but that's another matter all together I suppose....

We sold our 31-foot travel trailer a couple years ago because the only place we could camp with it was in your typical caravan park, packed with dozens and dozens of other people pretending that what they were doing was "getting away from it all." I'm all for camping in an area where the only trouble I need worry about is coming from the local critters looking for food.

I agree that's why we bought an offroad camper trailer that should be able to go anywhere the Disco2 can go. Have yet to try camper offroad yet, but planning a trip to Moreton Island later this year that should really show the abilities of both from what I have heard.

Cheers..Bruce