110 with 3.9 4BD1 T

[land864]

My other 110 did not come up for sale:(
Who can blame them:)
If any one sees another 110 with a turbo 3.9 Isuzu.
I know they don't come up often but you never know your luck.

Thanks

Pete

[rar110]

One option is to buy a very good cheap v8 110 or defender (130 would be my choice) and convert it using a factory turbo motor or NA motor then turbo that. Also leaves you with the option of a 4BD1T motor and Isuzu box with a transfer of your choice. A third option is use Isuzu N series 4WD box (selectable). I don't know if the drives line up with the rover diffs but might be worth a look.

Lot more work.

[land864]

If you were to fit a Diesel Turbo to a 110 that was previoulsy a V8 , then a couple of questions arise.

1. Engineering certificate required?
2. Different rate coils to the front?

I'll catch up with Rijidij , I think he just did the same. Interested to know $

[Outlaw]

I've removed the wanted info as we all know there is a place for posts like that :angel: but will let the thread run as a "how should i build an isuzu fender" :D

[mudmouse]

Hmm. Depends what cheap is..?

There was a 110 (3.5V8) on ebay for $3700 - starting bid - on the NSW Central Coast that no one wanted :(. It had a Defender firewall fitted (wonder why...rust..?) Anyway it looked nice in white (not red) and was clean and appeared looked after...and if my darling wife would refrain from deleting Land Rovers from my watch list I could attach a photo...and all would be good. But she won't and I can't. Apologies :mad:.

Anyway, I agree with rar110 and think that a conversion would be your best bet.

Good luck with the search.


Matt.

[mudmouse]

If you were to fit a Diesel Turbo to a 110 that was previoulsy a V8 , then a couple of questions arise.

1. Engineering certificate required?
2. Different rate coils to the front?

I'll catch up with Rijidij , I think he just did the same. Interested to know $

1. Yup - even though the 4BD1 was a factory option, a conversion would require welding onto the chassis the Isuzu engine (chassis) mounts.
2. Yup - increased engine weight - Murray listed the part numbers in his excellent review.

Matt.

[land864]

Apologies Outlaw:confused:. In my sheer frustration at not getting the Isuzu and at that late hour I was crying into my hanky:dbcry:
I did think about posting in wanted instead but being a lazy :censored: I did not. I will put another one up and thanks for the conversion to ' How to build an Isuzu'
Thanks

[abaddonxi]

Or you could buy a Series 3 Stage 1 with an Isuzu diesel and a V8 110 and do the conversion. Then you wouldn't have to monkey about finding bits and bobs.

There have been a couple of diesel Stage 1's on ebay over the past few months that went for very little.

Simon

[rijidij]

If you were to fit a Diesel Turbo to a 110 that was previoulsy a V8 , then a couple of questions arise.

1. Engineering certificate required?
2. Different rate coils to the front?

I'll catch up with Rijidij , I think he just did the same. Interested to know $

G'day,
Yes, you will require an engineers certificate for modifications to the chassis engine mounts. The main problem I found with the eng cert is that they don't just inspect the mounts, they go over the whole vehicle so they are not putting their name to a car that may be otherwise unsafe.
The initial inspection cost $132 and the final written report cost a further $220.

I used OME766 front coils because they were specifically manufactured for the Isuzu Landy and give approx. 50mm lift which was allowed by my insurance co at the time. $218 from ARB.

After having been through the conversion process and the associated costs (not that I have any regrets), my advise these days would be to, either buy an Isuzu County and then turbo it, or, if you have/buy a V8 County to convert, do what 'Garryseries3' has done and keep an eye out for an old Stage 1 SIII Landy to get all the required parts needed for the job. Even if you use a truck engine and don't use the engine from the SIII and you buy the vehicle at the right price, at least you will have a bellhousing ($1100 new), flywheel housing (~$850 new), flywheel (~$700 new) and a starter motor ($600-$1500) And depending on how worn things are, you might have a clutch and pressure plate (Turbo pressure plate $350 new), clutch pushrod (~$45 new), thrust bearing spacer (~$40-50 new), spigott assembly (~$60 new), engine mounts (~$70-80 each new)

Murray

[land864]

Thanks Rij and others.
I have a V8 Stage One currently that I am considering restoring.
I love it but the fam would like something with AC and just a little more comfort.
The idea behind a 4BD 1 Turbo County is that it would be our main family trip 4WD and possibly my daily driver. It would be comfier and have the grunt for towing a van.
Rij , I know you did a V8 to Diesel conversion but are you aware of the work involved in swapping a NA 3.9 to a Turbo 3.9. What I mean is , if you were to buy a NA Diesel County and sourced an ex truck turbo engine , would it just me a matter of unbolt the NA engine and bolt in the turbo.
Given it was a straight swap what would the approx cost be?

[Bush65]

Thanks Rij and others.
I have a V8 Stage One currently that I am considering restoring.
I love it but the fam would like something with AC and just a little more comfort.
The idea behind a 4BD 1 Turbo County is that it would be our main family trip 4WD and possibly my daily driver. It would be comfier and have the grunt for towing a van.
Rij , I know you did a V8 to Diesel conversion but are you aware of the work involved in swapping a NA 3.9 to a Turbo 3.9. What I mean is , if you were to buy a NA Diesel County and sourced an ex truck turbo engine , would it just me a matter of unbolt the NA engine and bolt in the turbo.
Given it was a straight swap what would the approx cost be?
You would need to swap the flywheel housing, flywheel and clutch, starter motor and alternator.

The oil filter housing and filters are different to clear the tailshaft. If you put the NA ones on, you may loose oil supply to turbo - there are ways around this.

Unless there are real problems with the na engine (they are very reliable and long lived), it would work out better to just fit a turbo.

[rijidij]

Thanks Rij and others.
I have a V8 Stage One currently that I am considering restoring.
I love it but the fam would like something with AC and just a little more comfort.
The idea behind a 4BD 1 Turbo County is that it would be our main family trip 4WD and possibly my daily driver. It would be comfier and have the grunt for towing a van.
Rij , I know you did a V8 to Diesel conversion but are you aware of the work involved in swapping a NA 3.9 to a Turbo 3.9. What I mean is , if you were to buy a NA Diesel County and sourced an ex truck turbo engine , would it just me a matter of unbolt the NA engine and bolt in the turbo.
Given it was a straight swap what would the approx cost be?

I go along with John's suggestion of fitting a turbo rather than a whole engine swap. The N/A engine has been turboed by quite a few guys on here and I intend to do the same with my N/A 120. I think a new turbo exhaust manifold to suit would be ~$350, and a turbo could be anywhere from free to $1000+.
A second hand GT25 on ebay in good nic, anywhere from ~$200 - $500.
You would need to do some plumbing for the turbo oil feed/return, crossover pipe from turbo to intake manifold etc, but the turbo and exh manifold are the only major components needed.

Cheers, Murray