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Allan
11th May 2009, 06:30 PM
What's large, black and vibrates when I get it up to speed?

Answer - A Land Rover Defender SVX!

It is back at Barbagallos again with a vibration problem. The Service Rep sent out a specialist in "defender vibrations" for a test drive in it. They will let me know tomorrow if they find the offending "cause" but I am not holding my breath! They keep asking me "is this the first Defender you have owned". When I tell them that my old 300tdi makes this feel like an old bomb, they seem to lose the ability to respond!

Tune in for the next saga of...................The Great Black Vibrator!!!!!!!!!!!

Allan :mad:

dmdigital
11th May 2009, 06:36 PM
...and it runs on batteries:angel:


What's the bet its put down to needing a replacement prop shaft?

spudboy
11th May 2009, 06:51 PM
At what speed is it bad?

abaddonxi
11th May 2009, 07:02 PM
Wow, an SVX does come with all accessories.

:D:D

Scallops
11th May 2009, 07:13 PM
Does it happen at all speeds? Does it go away at certain speeds or above/below certain speeds? Just asking as I had a harmonic imbalance in the rear propshaft.

Allan
11th May 2009, 07:37 PM
It gets up to about 80 to 90kms in 5th gear mainly but it can do it in 4th. I take my foot off the throttle and away it goes! They have already replaced both prop shafts as the originals had no grease nipples! It has since been replaced with prop shafts with grease nipples. There was much discussion between Barbagallos and Land Rover regarding the rear prop shaft. Now I have nipples and a vibrator! Who could ask for more?

Allan

one_iota
11th May 2009, 07:58 PM
There's a fine line between pleasure and pain.:twisted:

Prop shafts out of balance or phase will cause that....maybe a specialist not a LR generalist should be called upon.

Scallops
11th May 2009, 08:04 PM
It gets up to about 80 to 90kms in 5th gear mainly but it can do it in 4th. I take my foot off the throttle and away it goes! They have already replaced both prop shafts as the originals had no grease nipples! It has since been replaced with prop shafts with grease nipples. There was much discussion between Barbagallos and Land Rover regarding the rear prop shaft. Now I have nipples and a vibrator! Who could ask for more?

Allan

Because it isn't at all speeds, it sounds like a harmonic vibration - my problem was the rear shaft. They gave me the nippleless version without the vibrator - call me boring but it worked for me. :p

Allan
11th May 2009, 08:19 PM
You're easily pleased! I would give up the nipples for a smooth ride anytime - Boy is this getting X rated!

Allan

tempestv8
11th May 2009, 10:50 PM
Have you got a suspension lift or is it stock height?

If the latter, I'm putting money on the handbrake drum being out of balance! ;)

Sprint
11th May 2009, 11:23 PM
...and it runs on batteries:angel:

nah, you fit a turbo diesel when batteries just wont cut it!

tempestv8
12th May 2009, 08:57 AM
When I bought my Discovery II back in 1999, right from the onset of delivery, there was a vibration in the driveline.

Turns out that the rear driveshaft was out of balance from the factory, which lead to a vibration between 90-100 km/hr.

Got that replaced, and all was smooth again. That was until I had to drive to Sydney on the Hume. Then a different vibration emerged at 130 km/hr :angel:

Turns out that this was the front propshaft, also out of balance. Got that replaced under warranty as well and all is smooth again.

So brand new out of the factory, both propshafts were not properly balanced. :mad:

It's a simple enough test - take one propshaft out, lock CDL and go for a drive. If the vibes go away, then it's the likely culprit. Trouble starts when you've isolated both driveshafts and neither were the cause of the problem. Then it's likely to be the handbrake drum. I have a TSB on how to test the handbrake drum for vibration but it is for the Disco II.

tempestv8
12th May 2009, 09:00 AM
Here it is attached. I would imagine that since the Defender has the same drum brake arrangement, this would be very similar to a Discovery....

The PDF document does go into a LOT of detail on what the service technicians need to do, and obviously was written as a response to perhaps numerous dealer support calls back to HQ.

tempestv8
12th May 2009, 09:07 AM
Ooops! File is 1.3MB and exceeds the 900Kb file attachment limit from AULRO.

;)

If you are interested, I can email it to you but pls PM me with your email address.

Xavie
12th May 2009, 09:32 AM
I'd like to go for a ride with you sometime :o.

TimNZ
12th May 2009, 10:16 AM
Hi Allan, did you get Brabragellos to do a wheel balance for you? I only ask because I had a vibration problem with my 110, (lots of shake on the gear stick), and asked Brabragellos to do a wheel balance.
When I got the car back it was much worse, and went throught the "what the **** is wrong with this piece of **** now!" on the way home, however when I did get home I noticed there were no wheel weights on any of my wheels.
After taking the car to a real tyre shop and having the wheels balanced correctly all the shaking dissapeared.

Tim

discokid
12th May 2009, 11:01 AM
Im hearing all this and chringing

I took my 130 Puma to Barbagallos to get a ticking noise in the rear looked at as I thought it may be under warranty last week

They had the car for the day and couldnt find it (god only knows if they actually looked)

I got my home trained service crew that work on my racer 110 to have a look. Turns out one of the rear discs on the back had a nick out of it that was rubbing on the caliper. 10mins and a grinder and we were done.

I dont know that there are any "experts" at the dealers at all

Once warranty runs out mine I wont be going anywhere near the dealers in Perth

Grover-98
12th May 2009, 11:30 AM
I use to really want one of these new defenders!

But from all i have heard they have too many troubles. I would probably go with the JK Rubicon. :angel:

Redback
12th May 2009, 11:59 AM
You're easily pleased! I would give up the nipples for a smooth ride anytime - Boy on boy is this getting X rated!

Allan

Is this a Defender thing:p

Allan
12th May 2009, 01:02 PM
Hell bad typing error. Almost as bad as vehicle purchase error

Allan

Roulston
12th May 2009, 01:46 PM
I use to really want one of these new defenders!

But from all i have heard they have too many troubles. I would probably go with the JK Rubicon. :angel:

I don't want to jinx myself, but me and my SVX are getting along great. So far, 5000ks, not a problem in the world. My only minor concern was the about ot engine oil used. nealry a litre at the 4000kms mark. But as I have learned that is normal, untilt he it starts leaking that is.

I would rathe rpush my defender than drive a jeep!

Tony