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zulu Delta 534
20th May 2009, 10:21 AM
We seem to be holding own personal "swim-in" at the moment, the cat is wearing gumboots, the yard is overflowing, the gutters on the street are full and our house gutters aren't coping at all well.
Yesterday at 0800 recorded 76mm,
this morning at 0800 had had 86mm
and at 1110 this morning we have had another 32mm.....and this should be the dry season.
Pity its nearly all on the coastal plain where it is basically wasted and runs out to sea.
With the leakage ratio of Daisy the S2a, with all this rain, she should have about 3" of water inside her by now!
Regards
Glen
Shonky
20th May 2009, 10:53 AM
1) get in Daisy.
2) drive to rural area.
3) open door.
Drought fixed! :D
stevo68
20th May 2009, 10:57 AM
Hey Glen.....X 2...about to backwash pool for a second time in 2 days. Nice puddle to walk through before stepping into Smokey....dogs are looking at me like I am a bastard :twisted:. Thankfully we are half way up a mountain....some roads down the bottom are cut off with flooding. Am now wishing I got some fire wood as it is also pretty chilly here at the moment...be nice to have a crackling fire going whilst I work the day away :)....instead of shaking in my uggies :(,
Regards
Stevo
stage1slave
20th May 2009, 12:29 PM
NM, glad to hear you made it ok. I woke up this morning to hear it on the radio. You must have had more than us this time. And yes, it really ****s me when people drive in such bad conditions without their headlights on. Especially those driving gray or silver cars! Unreal.
cheers
ER
86mud
20th May 2009, 03:12 PM
I think I might be giving my 130 a deep water bath on the way home tonight as all the roads around Gumdale are flooded....
Cheers
Andrew
The ho har's
20th May 2009, 03:31 PM
The normally dryish creek bed at our place
Neighbours driveway is under there somewhere
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/05/477.jpg
looking upstream from our bridge
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/05/478.jpg
Dams overflowing over our driveway
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/05/479.jpg
Mrs ho har:angel:
solmanic
20th May 2009, 05:21 PM
Went to town this morning for a meeting at 10am. Finished at 11:30, stopped to pick some things up then spent from 12pm to 5pm getting home!!!
Indooroopilly streets around Nudgee Junior college - underwater (1m) - turned around.
Moggill Rd Pinjarra Hills - underwater (some 4WDs going through) - turned around again!
Pinjarra Rd, Pinjarra Hills - underwater (possibly 1.5m) - turned around AGAIN!!!
Rang SWMBO and told her to get home via Moggill ferry - SHE had the Defender!!! :mad::mad::mad:
Went to my parents' and swapped the Alfa for dad's Pajero - Not really sure how the Alfa managed to get this far. There were a few spots on Moggill Rd where the rushing water across the road was spraying over its bonnet - it's a goddamn trojan of a car! Then tried Moggill Rd again in the Paj...
THIS time - Moggill Rd Kenmore - underwater. The Defender in front of me turned around!!!
Tried Centenary highway & Ipswich Motorway and crawled along at about 5km/h for about an hour and a half.
Moggill Ferry - stopped running due to river current & debris whilst I was in the queue to board!!! :mad:
Colleges Crossing, Mt Crosby - closed - diverted.
Bounced along Allawah Rd through Chuwar (never even knew this place existed). The dirt road through here will be a great little 4WD track tomorrow ;). Already rutting heavily. Finally crossed the weir above Colleges (again, I never even knew there was a weir) and waded along Mt Crosby Rd back home to Bellbowrie.
5 hours getting home - that's a record.
Captain_Rightfoot
20th May 2009, 05:26 PM
5 hours getting home - that's a record.
Ouch! Finally some luck- the rest of this week has been my introduction to telecommuting. The power is still on so all is good :)
If we go under about 98% of Brisbane is had it :o
zulu Delta 534
20th May 2009, 05:30 PM
At 1815 tonight I just emptied the rain gauge again and it had collected 102mms since 0800 this morning.
Being autumn too has thrown a spanner in the works as the wind has dislodged millions of coloured leaves from our liquid amber tree. These dislodged leaves have held their own emergency meetings over my drain grates, effectively blocking drains and managing to create shallow flooding throughout my garage.
The joys of nature!
Regards
Glen
dullbird
20th May 2009, 05:36 PM
Well the rain started here in Sydney Last night, was REALLY heavy this morning and has been going all day.....
And Yes NM vision was really really poor at one stage and some loser came up beside me with no lights I check my mirrors a lot and did not see him until he was right on my corner...Dark coloured car to :no2:
scarry
20th May 2009, 05:55 PM
If we go under about 98% of Brisbane is had it :o
Same as us,we live on top of a hill:)
I recon we have had around 300mm in the last 24 hrs.
I had to go to Redlands hosp first thing this morning & then to Kipparing,lots of water everywhere,and hairy driving conditions.
Its not just raining,its pelting down!
I wonder how the guys out Ipswich way are going:(
Doesnt look like its gonna stop anytime soon:eek:
Lotz-A-Landies
20th May 2009, 06:13 PM
Yup same around my way and this evening there is local flooding all along the coast from Botany Bay through to South Head.
Regarding Queensland, I thought it was supposed to be beautiful one day perfect the next?
Could someone explain the Qld definitions for beautiful and perfect or was that just advertising? :D ;)
Diana
Captain_Rightfoot
20th May 2009, 06:22 PM
Its not just raining,its pelting down!
I wonder how the guys out Ipswich way are going:(
Doesnt look like its gonna stop anytime soon:eek:
I've been in this house for 10 years and today I've seen water features that I didn't know we had :o There is a full on waterfall from the house next door that has dug a hole in my back yard, and water is ripping along the drain on the back fence and then disappearing into the ground and making a gargling sound. There is either a storm drain under there or that's the sound of the water table filling and rising :)
Also I note that the retaining wall on the back fence is starting to tilt and it's 6 foot high. Who owns that? :eek:
scarry
20th May 2009, 06:22 PM
It was a beautiful day today ......for ducks:p
And perfect tomorrow for ......ducks :p:D:)
scarry
20th May 2009, 06:26 PM
Also I note that the retaining wall on the back fence is starting to tilt and it's 6 foot high. Who owns that? :eek:
Its probably half yours:(
Blknight.aus
20th May 2009, 06:34 PM
Same as us,we live on top of a hill:)
I recon we have had around 300mm in the last 24 hrs.
I had to go to Redlands hosp first thing this morning & then to Kipparing,lots of water everywhere,and hairy driving conditions.
Its not just raining,its pelting down!
I wonder how the guys out Ipswich way are going:(
Doesnt look like its gonna stop anytime soon:eek:
the switch isnt doing too badly, only the haigsly road is under so far the mods to drainage after the last big hit have helps with the local flooding some of the construction works on amblery are awash or under.
Lotz-A-Landies
20th May 2009, 06:34 PM
...Also I note that the retaining wall on the back fence is starting to tilt and it's 6 foot high. Who owns that? :eek:Are you down hill or uphill and is there fill in behind?
It most likely belongs to the person who filled behind the wall or if it's a retaining wall for an excavation, the property with the excavation is usually responsible for the wall.
I'm not a lawyer though, although I did own part of a strata property where the next door neighbour was claiming damages against our body corporate for rotation in our retaining wall.
Hope there is no problem for you though!
Diana
The ho har's
20th May 2009, 06:34 PM
ho har has told me that when he came home this arvo the neighbors may be able to use their driveway again as creek has gone down....but the Logan River is still rising:(
River Height data for Logan R at Waterford # (http://www.bom.gov.au/fwo/IDQ65388/IDQ65388.040878.plt.shtml)
Mrs ho har:angel:
scarry
20th May 2009, 06:53 PM
I have a retaining wall that is on its last legs,& the neighbours arent to keen on doing anything:(
Spoke to the council & they said if it holds up their fill,and my block has been cut,which it was as well,its a shared wall,and both parties are responsible for upkeep of wall.The wall has a dual purpose.It has to be close to the boundary,but not necessarily on the boundary
Could be different rules for different councils.
GuyG
20th May 2009, 07:02 PM
Well its just started pelting down here again at Indooroopilly. A mate who lives at Bellowrie has just left to try and get home (on a motorbike) although he might also be back. Moggill road was cut in at least 3 spots and with the high tide at 6.45 the water was not receeding, interestingly one of the areas that was flooded they had just finished upgrading the road - it would appear that the engineers need to go back to the drawing board and try again.
Captain_Rightfoot
20th May 2009, 07:12 PM
Are you down hill or uphill and is there fill in behind?
It most likely belongs to the person who filled behind the wall or if it's a retaining wall for an excavation, the property with the excavation is usually responsible for the wall.
I'm not a lawyer though, although I did own part of a strata property where the next door neighbour was claiming damages against our body corporate for rotation in our retaining wall.
Hope there is no problem for you though!
Diana
Well.. our block kinda slopes down a bit to this vertical 7ft wall at one end and 5 foot at the other that sits right on the boundary. The block "above" is ground level to the top of the wall. I'd say it was filled to give them a flat yard. But all is lost in the 40 years since it was done. I might ask the guy across the road who has been here since the beginning...
Lotz-A-Landies
20th May 2009, 08:24 PM
The usual rules about retaining walls or earthworks and rainwater for that matter is that works on the boundary or not should not adversely affect the neighbouring property. So if the wall was built to retain earthworks on the neighbouring property then it is the responsibility of the property with the earthworks. The only exception to this would be to the extent that the neighbour would be expected to share in the construction and maintenance of the wall to a value that would equate to 50% of the cost of a regular fence.
It is still a question for a lawyer to answer.
Regarding stormwater, a property owner is expected to deal with stormwater collected on their property and direct it into regular waterways, stormwater chanels or to the street and not onto neighbouring properties. Flooding has a whole other set of rules.
solmanic
20th May 2009, 08:49 PM
Well.. our block kinda slopes down a bit to this vertical 7ft wall at one end and 5 foot at the other that sits right on the boundary. The block "above" is ground level to the top of the wall. I'd say it was filled to give them a flat yard. But all is lost in the 40 years since it was done. I might ask the guy across the road who has been here since the beginning...
Check the BCC Bimap on PD on-line (http://pdonline.brisbane.qld.gov.au/masterview/masterplan/enquirer/default.aspx?page=home). You should be able to see what council reckons was "natural ground" with 1/2m contours. That will give you a rough idea of whether the retaining wall is to retain your cut or their fill. My guess without seeing it, is that it will be partly both. Builders & developers use some common sense when building so usually sloping sites are half cut & half fill, and boundary walls try to be half and half as well.
In any case, even if you suspect the retaining wall is solely for retaining your neighbour's fill, I would still go half & half in any costs. You don't want to start a fight over it if they don't agree that it's theirs. You have to live beside each other, remember.
The ho har's
21st May 2009, 06:14 AM
Guess what...................
I can see blue sky:arms::arms:
Mrs ho har:angel:
The ho har's
21st May 2009, 06:19 AM
Me too......and the sun's shining :D
We are not quite that lucky it has gone cloudy again:(
Mrs ho har:angel:
stage1slave
21st May 2009, 06:43 AM
Regarding Queensland, I thought it was supposed to be beautiful one day perfect the next?
Diana
It was,.........on the weekend! ;) That's when it matters isn't it? During the week, it's only for bosses.
Absolutely magnificent here this morning! Good job, i'm my own boss.:D
RobHay
21st May 2009, 06:49 AM
It was a beautiful day today ......for ducks:p
And perfect tomorrow for ......ducks and surfers :p:D:)
Wot he said:angel:
Bigbjorn
21st May 2009, 07:05 AM
Regarding stormwater, a property owner is expected to deal with stormwater collected on their property and direct it into regular waterways, stormwater chanels or to the street and not onto neighbouring properties. Flooding has a whole other set of rules.
D, I have been through this at two addresses. Brisbane City Council maintains that as water runs downhill (plumbers take note!!!!) the persons living down the slope have to accept natural run-off. You may not direct rainwater to flow into a neighbours property, nor may a neighbour stop the natural flow of water by restricting or attempting to restrict the flow into their property. If you can not pipe the rainwater into the street or a dedicated stormwater drain, you are required to broadcast the water widely across your property so as to continue the natural flow of water falling on your property or pipe it into a one cubic metre rubble pit located a certain distance from any boundary. Any overflow from the rubble pit should then follow the natural flow.
solmanic
21st May 2009, 07:33 AM
...or pipe it into a one cubic metre rubble pit located a certain distance from any boundary. Any overflow from the rubble pit should then follow the natural flow.
Good luck getting a rubble pit approved in Brisbane. I haven't had a project approved with one for years. Council's line is simply "no rubble pits". They expect you to get a hydraulics engineer and gain approval from downhill neighbours to run lines through their property or establish a pumping system to the regular street stormwater discharge, or as a last resort put in an elaborate soakage trench. Rubble pits are out.
Bigbjorn
21st May 2009, 10:24 AM
Good luck getting a rubble pit approved in Brisbane. I haven't had a project approved with one for years. Council's line is simply "no rubble pits". They expect you to get a hydraulics engineer and gain approval from downhill neighbours to run lines through their property or establish a pumping system to the regular street stormwater discharge, or as a last resort put in an elaborate soakage trench. Rubble pits are out.
Well, that was my advice from council, and that was what I did, and what was inspected and approved by a council officer who informed me that my stormwater drainage was exactly in accordance with the rules. A new downhill neighbour had been bitching and moaning about the flow of rainwater from my downpipes and those of the adjoining property. The existing downpipes discharged onto the ground at the back of the two houses, some 20 metres inside our properties, and the discharge followed the natural slope downhill. I did the work because I was sick of the complaining and preferred to not have an antagonistic neighbour. The other guy virtually told her to get stuffed and to put up a block wall at the back of her house to direct the water around the sides. The complaining started after they moved into an 1920's Queenslander which was cut into the hill, high at the front and only two steps high at the back. They built a patio/entertaining area at the back and first decent storm the water ran across the new patio and in the kitchen door.
In 2008 I had to put in another one metre rubble pit to catch the overflow from the new water tank. I had to submit a photograph of the pit to get the subsidy. So the council still requires rubble pits in certain circumstances.
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