de-natured alcohol

[Pedro_The_Swift]

is just undrinkable ethanol,,
right?

[bobslandies]

Yes, denatured alcohol is ethanol but has additives to taste replusive, smell or has been coloured. Mainly used for fuel stoves and uses where methanol may not be as effective.

Bob

[Pedro_The_Swift]

camping stores should be the go then,,,,

[Bigbjorn]

Sounds like methylated spirits, "metho". Rumoured to be sold cold in stores in remote communities. Also popular with street and park people. Known as Coorabulka Champagne or Borraloola Champagne when a spoonful of Sal Vital is mixed into a glass of it.

[willem]

Ethanol with 2.5% petrol added. Sold as methylated spirits. Camping stores, or your average supermarket.

Willem

[Chucaro]

Yes, denatured alcohol is ethanol but has additives to taste replusive, smell or has been coloured. Mainly used for fuel stoves and uses where methanol may not be as effective.

Bob

In South America they use blue color to stop stupid people to drink the stuff, then really super stupid people use bleach to get rid of the blue and as you guessed they drink the stuff. It is bad for them but worse for the tax payers to keep them a live :(

[willem]

Yes, denatured alcohol is ethanol but has additives to taste replusive, smell or has been coloured. Mainly used for fuel stoves and uses where methanol may not be as effective.

Bob

Methanol is wood alcohol and is poisonous, and is therefore not suitable for domestic uses.

Willem

[JDNSW]

Ethanol with 2.5% petrol added. Sold as methylated spirits. Camping stores, or your average supermarket.

Willem

From Wikipedia :-

"Typical additives are methanol, isopropyl alcohol, acetone, methyl ethyl ketone, methyl isobutyl ketone, denatonium, and even (uncommonly) aviation gasoline."

Additives to denature ethanol will be something to make it poisonous, something to make it taste horrible, and usually something to make it smell horrible and as an emetic, with all additives chosen so as to be difficult to separate from the ethanol, and so as not to affect it for usual applications (solvent, fuel). I had a look at the bottle under my sink - all it says is 95% ethanol.

John

[werdan]

It's just the yank name for methylated spirits, isn't it?

[harry]

just fishing pedro?,
getting a lot of bites.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

yes and no:angel::p

My PC has a mirror finish,,
I emailed Antec about keeping it shiney and they suggested
de-natured alcohol.

[bobslandies]

yes and no:angel::p

My PC has a mirror finish,,
I emailed Antec about keeping it shiney and they suggested
de-natured alcohol.

In which case I would say they mean the stuff meant for cleaning PCBs.
Probably available from Jaycar or electronics shops rather than a generic mix from a hardware or supermarket - the makeup of which could be debatable.

Bob

[BMKal]

Sounds like methylated spirits, "metho". Rumoured to be sold cold in stores in remote communities. Also popular with street and park people. Known as Coorabulka Champagne or Borraloola Champagne when a spoonful of Sal Vital is mixed into a glass of it.

:Rolling::Rolling::Rolling:

Well that's a new one.

I've heard of mixing it with boot polish, orange juice and one or two others that I can't remember off the top of my head - but I've never heard of mixing it with Sal Vital (and I'm a regular drinker of Sal Vital in the warmer months).

Will have to let a few people around Kalgoorlie know about this one - metho sales will skyrocket.

[JohnF]

There are lots of people living as vegetables in nursing homes because they drank metho. Are we going to see you in the gutter? Hope not. I talk to many sad alcoholics on the street who go to the soup kitchen that I go to for a feed twice a week. Try to help them, but sadly most do not want to be helped, but still try.
Oh some years ago I was given a bottle of wiskey for Christmas by a truck driver who called into pick up stuff I packed at work, but do not drink, or at least did not drink more than once every few months when I would only have a small mouthful then. So five or more years later still had 3/4 of that bottle of whisky. Got a winter Job at Perisher so I could ski for the season, and took it with me, left it sitting near my bed head of the motel where I worked [Probably was 1974] One day, after leaving it sitting there for several weeks I decided to take a swig, and someone had stolen my whiskey and replaced it with metho colored with I do not know what. It tasted terrible, and I had swollowed some before it hit me.

[Chucaro]

Who ever done that is an absolutely bastard and ignorant.
Metho can left you blind :mad:

[isuzurover]

I saw a doco once on metho drinking in remote communities. They said they get a bottle of metho, and use a partially hollowed out loaf of white bread to filter it - which at least removes the taste of the additives...

[LandyAndy]

Hey Ben
Then you throw a couple of Tbags in and a spoon of chilli and call it Chilli Beer:p:p:p:p
My next keg is Chilli beer,looking at getting a load of wood over the long weekend;);););)
Interested
Andrew

[isuzurover]

Hey Ben
Then you throw a couple of Tbags in and a spoon of chilli and call it Chilli Beer:p:p:p:p
My next keg is Chilli beer,looking at getting a load of wood over the long weekend;);););)
Interested
Andrew

:D Was it that bad??? You can still see can't you???

No long weekend for me, but I am interested. Which day are you going?

[Bigbjorn]

When I was at high school (don't ask what decade) the park next to the school was used by the students at lunch time and was (still is) a favourite with the street and park people and indigenous folk. One of these was passed out on a bench one lunch time with his bottle of metho underneath. We low students tipped it out and refilled it with water. One can only imagine the surprise he got when he awoke and reached for a hair of the dog and got a gobful of water. The shock to his system might have done him some harm!!

[Jedimastermat]

is just undrinkable ethanol,,
right?

Theres a couple.
From my analytical chemistry days its Bitrex, denatonium benzoate as the main player. Its mean to be the most bitter substance there is. God it tastes like crap on a roll. :angel: You learn good technique when your sampling that stuff real quick. If I remember rightly it goes through you like there no tomorrow as well.

We used to put it in all sorts of stuff to stop people putting it down their gob. For the love of God i dont know what the fascination is with trying to drink stuff thats not meant to be drunk. Also theres a phthalate and MEK (methy ethyl ketone) and petroleum oil in there too. Cant remember the classification system but i think its as simple as D1 to D5 alcohol (which is by nature a 95/5 EtOH/H2O) eutectoid mixture ;) )
cheers
Mat

[Jedimastermat]

I saw a doco once on metho drinking in remote communities. They said they get a bottle of metho, and use a partially hollowed out loaf of white bread to filter it - which at least removes the taste of the additives...

Doesnt work in filtering the methanol but i guess they know that. Not sure about the taste though,
o o (Soggy bread, sounds like an private boys school dorm game but i digress.) :wasntme:

The methanol is toxic once it gets in and decomposes due to biochemcial reactions cauing formaldehye. Remember the stuff you saw dead things in in hospitals and labs (great stuff if you ever want to make sure someones really dead and not coming back, store them in this stuff :angel:)