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incisor
28th May 2009, 10:07 AM
as some are aware i have just purchased a 1976 toyota hi-ace camper in pretty original condition that i intend to do a slow restore on.

it's whole new world when it comes to finding info..

can find info on my 50 year old landy in 30 secs on the net and after 2 days i have found next to stuff all on the hi ace... about 5 images, an owners manual, a sales brochure and maybe a workshop manual...

so i figure a man is going to have to start up another site on car campers just to try and garner some info

www.carcampers.com.au (http://www.carcampers.com.au) will have to come online sooner rather than later i think :P

mike 90 RR
28th May 2009, 10:16 AM
You know that you will be talking "Winabago's are King" all day :(

V8Ian
28th May 2009, 10:46 AM
Povbago?:p

isuzutoo-eh
28th May 2009, 10:58 AM
And thats why we have Land Rovers- vehicles that people care about, interact with, add personality to and cherish. A member of the family, whose memory lives on long after adoption by another family.

The alternative here is a vanilla slice. For 5 minutes it will be delicious. And then you forget about it for 8 hours and thats the last memory of it.


:D

V8Ian
28th May 2009, 11:15 AM
And thats why we have Land Rovers- vehicles that people care about, interact with, add personality to and cherish. A member of the family, whose memory lives on long after adoption by another family.

The alternative here is a vanilla slice. For 5 minutes it will be delicious. And then you forget about it for 8 hours and thats the last memory of it.


:D
Chocolate eclairs are a different story :twisted:

Sprint
28th May 2009, 11:32 AM
of course inc, you have the option of turning the incasaurus into a camper!

incisor
28th May 2009, 11:42 AM
had that years ago on a 109

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/05/150.jpg

and the missus got claustrophobic after a week of wet weather.. not going back there...

JDNSW
28th May 2009, 11:58 AM
had that years ago on a 109

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/05/150.jpg

and the missus got claustrophobic after a week of wet weather.. not going back there...

Obviously you need a 130 not a 109 - seem to have seen one somewhere ......

John

weeds
28th May 2009, 12:21 PM
you could always start up a forum;):p

Bigbjorn
28th May 2009, 12:30 PM
Like most Japanese vehicles and bikes, they are disposable. Built for the consumer society, to be thrown away and replaced with new every few years.

isuzurover
28th May 2009, 12:47 PM
My parents' neighbour in brissie owned/repaired a few of them...

IRC that they (at least some models) have a very low ratio diff centre (5.29:1 ?) which is interchangeable with a hilux centre.


EDIT: Here is some info on how to identify which diff ratio you have
http://www.rsmotorsport.com.au/technical/files/Identifying_Toyota_Hilux.pdf

You can get 3.54:1 low pinion toyota 8" diffs. Toyota/rover hybrid axle for the front of the 110 perhaps???

stage1slave
28th May 2009, 03:27 PM
Inc, if you ever need a couple of upper ball joints for it, I have some NOS ones here. Part No BJ302. May have to confirm with an auto spares shop if they suit your particular model though.
Amazing,......the stuff I have laying about this place.Somebody may need it one day!:)

incisor
28th May 2009, 03:40 PM
Like this one?

older :P

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachments/general-chat/15733d1243220416-toyota-gods-camper.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/05/146.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/05/147.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/05/148.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/05/149.jpg

incisor
28th May 2009, 04:07 PM
so...tell me how a Hiace will be any better in a week of wet weather ;)

1) it was her idea

2) it isnt a land rover

need i say more?

DEFENDERZOOK
28th May 2009, 08:22 PM
a week of rain in my fender.......i get wrinkly skin..........

Davy
28th May 2009, 09:10 PM
I bought a 79' Hi Ace, orange, ex telecom in Sydney with 30,000km on the clock, in the early eighties.
It had a 12R 1600cc pushrod engine and a fairly rev'y dif ratio.

I drove that thing to death as a campervan for many years.
When I finally killed the poor little motor, the diff & gearbox were also totally worn out after about a quarter of a million kilometers.

The rest of it was good so I transplanted an 18R 2000cc engine, gearbox,
tailshaft and back axle complete.

I sold it in 2001, still running strong.

The leader of the opposition hated the colour, but I hate to say it.....

Best, most reliable vehicle I ever owned.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Hiace_Commercial_Camper

Bigbjorn
28th May 2009, 09:15 PM
My god, is that not Uncle Ho before someone put fertilizer in his beard?

Debacle
28th May 2009, 09:21 PM
Like most Japanese vehicles and bikes, they are disposable. Built for the consumer society, to be thrown away and replaced with new every few years.

Yep thats why my 99 Hiace is still going strong after 760000 kms and still doing 2-3000 ks per week.

I know what you mean Inc about lack of info on the web. Even though mine is 20 years younger and common as muck, there is very little info around.

I even tried asking questions on some toyota forums and got zero responses.

incisor
28th May 2009, 09:22 PM
this one has an engineered 3y 2ltr engine and 5 speed gearbox transplant.

goes like a scalded cat...

drives really really well but the brakes leave some to be desired so i have a mechanic looking at them as i havent recovered enough to do them myself..

very little rust to be found so far

Debacle
28th May 2009, 09:30 PM
Sounds good, they were a good motor, I knew someone that had one in a hilux and it went forever without needing a spanner near it, even with a lot of off road work.

abaddonxi
28th May 2009, 09:59 PM
Needs a bullbar and something in the seat department that'll let you walk away from a day's drive.

Simon

DEFENDERZOOK
28th May 2009, 10:11 PM
isnt that the same engine as the early corollas.....?



what info exactly do you need........?

incisor
29th May 2009, 02:57 AM
what info exactly do you need........?
plenty of toyotas had variations of the 3Y
a workshop manual would be nice to have and to hold, a parts manual would be an added bonus..;)

even simple things like a wiring diagram are like magic fairy dust to find...

the search continues...

Tombie
29th May 2009, 05:51 AM
Dont feel bad Inc...

We just purchased a Delica :cool: Very impressed actually....

Having friends who have had one for years and done the Simpson etc... In one were very happy to add it to the family...

Got some ideas rolling through my head for the setup.

feral
29th May 2009, 09:38 AM
So long as it's not the motor out of my old Corolla
I sold it after 3 head gaskets blew...interesting sight to fill the radiator and watch the water bubbling out of the carby :eek:


Been there, done that :p

But atleast you could have the head off, stripped down, ready to shave in 40 minutes :eek:

These days it takes 40 minutes just to book your car in for a diagnosis.

incisor
29th May 2009, 09:43 AM
Got some ideas rolling through my head for the setup.
see you at Carcamper.com.au (http://www.carcamper.com.au) ;)

the basics are up and running ...

inside
29th May 2009, 10:31 AM
This may cover your model?

http://www.haynes.co.uk/Press/HaynesJackets/RGBhr_0304.jpg

Bigbjorn
29th May 2009, 11:28 AM
Yep thats why my 99 Hiace is still going strong after 760000 kms and still doing 2-3000 ks per week.



No doubt you have one like this, and no doubt so do others. This does not change the manufacturer's point of view that it is a cheap disposable vehicle meant to be repalced regularly. Look at the home nation. There are very, very, few vehicles over five years old on the road. Regulations discourage keeping them.

See what reception you get if you try to trade a 20-30 year common old vehicle in. You will be offered no more than the amount of fat in the deal for loading trades or told to try another dealer. Send one to auction if you can find an auto auction that will accept one this old. Nearly all here rarely have anything much over ten years. Cars this old sell through e-bay and the Trading Post or a few bomb dealers, the "Nothing over $3000" yards.

Most makers now have an active obsolescence programme for spare parts and the Japanese were the leaders in this field. The policy is to not support the old stuff so the sooner it is broken down and unrepairable the sooner a new one is sold.

bobslandies
29th May 2009, 12:22 PM
Hi Dave,

There were so many of these campers made on Lite Ace, Town Ace Hi-Ace, Coaster etc as well as the other vehicle brands and the slide-ons I am sure you will be inundated once you get this site known.
Heaps of grey nomads out there with vehicles that are still immaculate as they have been looked after - the disposable nature of the commercial vehicle itself does not enter their world!

It's not covered much in the Motorhome enthusiasts or the caravanning forums.
The old caravans (pre-1970) have Welcome to Vintage Caravans (http://www.vintagecaravans.com/) and 1970-1979 are covered by a sub board: Vintage Caravans - The Road to Classic Caravans (http://vintagecaravans.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=classicvans)

By the way what brand is the fitout?
There were Suncamper, Trakka, Sunchaser and heaps of others at this time.

Bob

incisor
29th May 2009, 12:43 PM
By the way what brand is the fitout?
There were Suncamper, Trakka, Sunchaser and heaps of others at this time.
couldn't tell you to save my life, bob

is on the agenda tho :P