Winch and Battery Choices

[ahilliar]

What 2nd batteries are people using in their D3's and are you using LR standard battery clamp?

Secondly what winches have people fitted. Looking for reliablity and ease of maintaining. Intention is a long term touring vehicle but not required to perform competition speeds.

My intention is to fit synthetic rope to reduce weight

Happy to have some input

2009 TDV6 AT2's and a little more to come

[Tote]

Optima Yellow Top and a Traxide Kit. Fits perfectly with the LR clamp (supplied in the Traxide kit ) :BigThumb:
No winch as yet.
Regards,
Tote

[CaverD3]

Varta 80APH will fit with some modification as will a Supercharge 60APH.
Suprcharge is a lot cheaper than the Optima the Varta close to the same.

[rmp]

Very sensible re synth rope.

Whatever winch you get, have it serviced every year regardless of use. Warn, Ironman spring to mind as good brands. You get what you pay for of course, the cheaper ones have horribly cut gears and soft metal. The Ironman one has a remote control which is actually quite handy. If you get one without a remote control, as mine is, wire it up so you have an isolator switch in the cabin, and the in-out controls on a seperate switch. No need then for the control cable which is tiresome and gets lost.

Get a pulley block to halve load.

Just use a shackle on the end, a hook is not required.

I recommend only 20m of rope, easier to put on the drum and better winch performance, get the rest made into an ext rope.

[WhiteD3]

Amp-tech D48 + SC40 Traxide kit.

[Will]

I have the TJM OX 9500, which was originally in the 300TDi in the D3. It has Dynamica rope fitted.
For interest I fitted the solenoid box in behind the new bumper and fitted the cable plug to the top of the new bar. Looks great as no solenoid box to be seen or block air flow. The box gets a spray of Lanotec every now and then as a safety precaution.
The Traxide battery system is the only way to go. I use a Battery World battery for my auxiliary MRV48 @ $145. Had to cut the top of one terminal to make it shorter so it would fit correctly. Used a piece of flat allow for the holding bracket.

[Desert Traveller]

Optima Yellow Top with Traxide kit and Warn 9000 used only once to get the D3 up a hill but many times to extract others.

[RichardK]

Traxide SC80 and Varta battery, no problems

Milemarker 10,500lb independantly powered hydraulic winch, no problems, installed on my previous D3 about to get reinstalled into my new D3

[lrdef110]

Richard just wondering if you could advise the model no of the Varta battery. I'm assuming this is your auxillary battery and could you explain what modifications are necessary to fit it.

Thanks

[WhiteD3]

The Amp-tech will fit with no mods required other than to the LR bracket.

[RichardK]

Richard just wondering if you could advise the model no of the Varta battery. I'm assuming this is your auxillary battery and could you explain what modifications are necessary to fit it.

Thanks

It's a 55 or 60AH varta, no mods nessary, fits straight in, I'll have a look today to see if there is a part no.

[CaverD3]

These are the Varta ones, terminals are lowered.:BigThumb:

http://www.batterycorner.com.au/energy.pdf

As I said with modification you can modify the 80 AmpH one if you need the extra capacity.

[300+]

Traxide SC80 and Varta battery, no problems

Milemarker 10,500lb independantly powered hydraulic winch, no problems, installed on my previous D3 about to get reinstalled into my new D3

Hi Richard, what is the independant power for the winch?

I prefer hydraulic winches as I don't like the current load of leccy ones.

Cheers, Steve

[RichardK]

Hi Richard, what is the independant power for the winch?

I prefer hydraulic winches as I don't like the current load of leccy ones.

Cheers, Steve

This is the installation in my old D3 and will be duplicated in the new one next month.

I have designed all the bracketry (?) and power take off. The pump is a modified ZF from 4x4 winches in UK and the winch is a Milemarker from the USA. Hydraulic winches will run all day without getting hot and are quiet!

Some Pics:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/06/1392.jpg

The pump platform

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/06/1393.jpg

The Kit, I have made some modifications, this was an early kit

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/06/1394.jpg
The installation in my 05 D3

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/06/1395.jpg
Another view

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/06/1396.jpg
And another view

Cheers

[300+]

Thanks Richard.

[CaverD3]

Very nice job Richard. :BigThumb:

[drivesafe]

Optima Yellow Top with Traxide kit and Warn 9000 used only once to get the D3 up a hill but many times to extract others.

Hi Desert, can you post info on how your set up is wired.

I’m in the process of putting a kit together to enable the auxiliary battery to be used while winching and I’m look for ideas and suggestions, particularly anything relating to the use and mounting location of the switch, as in diagram below, but with an SC80-LR control module.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/03/651.jpg

[AndyRevill]

Sorry, half a hijack but questions seem relevant :)

Tim, I've been thinking about this for my D2a - I already have a deep cycle in the back with an SC80 but thinking of fitting a winch and considering a second cranking battery under the bonnet. I had thought it might be better to connect the winch to the 2nd battery to help prevent any issues with voltage drop and car electronics - but your diagram suggests otherwise, is this because the current draw would be too high through the SC80?

second question (more relevant here as well) - is it possible to replace the marine switch with a relay or are they too many $$ for the Amps required?

Third question - how important would it be to match battery types - the D2a is a calcium battery (not sure about D3)

Hijack over:)

Thanks, Andy

[drivesafe]

First off, I too must apologies to ahillar for getting way off subject.




Sorry, half a hijack but questions seem relevant :)

Tim, I've been thinking about this for my D2a - I already have a deep cycle in the back with an SC80 but thinking of fitting a winch and considering a second cranking battery under the bonnet. I had thought it might be better to connect the winch to the 2nd battery to help prevent any issues with voltage drop and car electronics - but your diagram suggests otherwise, is this because the current draw would be too high through the SC80?
Hi Andy, if you try to use a second battery for winching, the SC80 ( as should most DB controllers ) should be protected against the high current draw and thats what the marine battery switch does.





second question (more relevant here as well) - is it possible to replace the marine switch with a relay or are they too many $$ for the Amps required?
You can get a 200 amp continuos rated solenoid and use it instead of a marine battery switch.




Third question - how important would it be to match battery types - the D2a is a calcium battery (not sure about D3)
You should always use a cranking battery for you second battery when it’s to be used for during winching.

By the way, pick you cranking battery carefully when it’s to be used for winching, some batteries are better than others and some of the high end calcium cranking batteries are not as suited as for winching as ordinary cranking batteries.

[Viper]

I have a Traxide SC80-LR Plug-&-Play Kit + the LR HCE Kit specifically designed for Disco 3 + Optima Yellow Top D34 battery for sale. Highly recommended for D3. All purchased new Nov 08. Original cost was $740, easy install.

Cheers
Barry