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It'sNotWorthComplaining!
6th June 2009, 03:09 PM
I've been ill for the last 5 weeks. Seems I might have caught whooping cough.
So I was sent to have a pathology test (Nose Swab).
I found out that your nasel canal is the same length as your index finger from tip of finger to the knuckle on your fist.:eek:

I thought they were joking when they brought out this long thin cotton bud swab thing and lined it up along my index finger and then marked the length onto the swab stick.:confused:

They then feed it all the way up your nostril ,:o it hits a bump and still they insert further up to the mark on the stick.
I got through it without being sick, but I can symphasise with the little kids when they have to have it done.
After it was finished, I was told they do the Swine flue swabs this was too. ( on TV they show them doing a swab of the mouth)

dullbird
6th June 2009, 03:29 PM
we have had whooping cough at work now for a number of weeks...seems that this is effecting a fair few just like swine flu

Lotz-A-Landies
6th June 2009, 04:19 PM
I've been ill for the last 5 weeks. Seems I might have caught whooping cough.
So I was sent to have a pathology test (Nose Swab).
I found out that your nasel canal is the same length as your index finger from tip of finger to the knuckle on your fist.:eek:

...It's actually longer than that! Some of the viral swabs can be longer than the one you had, although on a piece of bendy wire.

Ever had to do a nasal aspirate on a 2 year old with RSV or pertussis? Not pleasant for anyone.

Diana

Bigbjorn
6th June 2009, 05:33 PM
just as well you didn't have diarrhoea!

Benny_IIA
6th June 2009, 05:44 PM
I had one a few years back for a test for whooping cough, quite painful almost as painful as when the doctor forgot to put an anesthetic needle in part of knee:mad::mad: when I was getting stitches then he put the needle through the skin.

Ben......

dullbird
6th June 2009, 05:49 PM
:lol2:
I had a hard lump cut off my shoulder when I was about 19ish.....i went into a theatre. But only had the area numbed rather than going under so was awake for the whole thing unfortunately for me the anastetic wore off befor they finished stitching.:(

They said we only have 2 stitches left it will take more time to numb it again ad carried on....well 2 stitches is 4 holes my god it hurt!!!!! thats the british national health service for you :D

It'sNotWorthComplaining!
6th June 2009, 07:10 PM
we have had whooping cough at work now for a number of weeks...seems that this is effecting a fair few just like swine flu
It was nearly eradicated until the do good greenie mothers stopped immunising thier kids against it apparantly.
I was never vacinated against it.
Seems TB, polio etc could also come back due to non vacination practises.

George130
6th June 2009, 07:34 PM
It was nearly eradicated until the do good greenie mothers stopped immunising thier kids against it apparantly.
I was never vacinated against it.
Seems TB, polio etc could also come back due to non vacination practises.

Yep:mad:.

Had the whooping cough scare a month or two ago with our new born. Now he is back in hospital again with pneumonia.
At least this time they have listened to the fact that he has had crackles in his breathing since birth. They have also found that a ventalin puffer allows him to breath properly this time.

Lotz-A-Landies
6th June 2009, 07:45 PM
That would be measles was nearly eradicated and no MMR doesn't cause autism, it is just that autism first demonstrates at about the same time as MMR is given.

Pertussis (whooping cough) has been with us constantly, it is the cause of much of the pneumonia that was killing off our old folks. The problem was that no one tested for pertussis in adults because it doesn't give the stridor heard in kids with it. You will be pleased to know that pertussis has been added to Adult Diphtheria and Tetanus (ADT) vaccine to restore pertussis immunity back into the ageing population. So if you haven't had a tetanus shot in the last 20 years or so you should talk to your GP about getting the vaccination.

Greenie mothers - DO NOT get me started on that one :mad: :mad: :mad:. "Oh yes my child has been immunised, but we went the natural way through our naturopath." We are not allowed to tell them that they are stupid and that they would get more immunity from sitting on the beach holding a palm frond over their head chanting at the sunrise.!

Bigbjorn
6th June 2009, 08:52 PM
Good on'yer, Lotza. Our parent's would have been horrified to think that someone would choose to not immunise their children. Would have been considered criminal negligence. Deaths of children from diptheria, whooping cough, measles, scaret fever, tuberculosis, mumps, poliomyleitis, and a few others were the scourge of life before antibiotics and other treatments. Go look around cemeteries and see the children's graves of the era.
I remember the fifties when a report of a case of polio caused panic. Children were rounded up and kept home. The "polio house" was pointed out to visitors and people would cross the street in front of a home with a case of polio. I remember the children's physiotherapy ward at Brisbane Childrens in the early '50's, full of kids with twisted limbs and limbs in calipers. And now we have hippy and yuppy fools who will not immunise their children. This should be a prosecutable charge of negilgence to a child.

BMKal
6th June 2009, 09:10 PM
This should be a prosecutable charge of negilgence to a child.

:thumbsup::thumbsup: Couldn't agree more.

abaddonxi
6th June 2009, 09:30 PM
It was nearly eradicated until the do good greenie mothers stopped immunising thier kids against it apparantly.I was never vacinated against it.
Seems TB, polio etc could also come back due to non vacination practises.

Why not?

Cheers
Simon

It'sNotWorthComplaining!
6th June 2009, 10:43 PM
Why not?

Cheers
Simon
I don't think the Germans did it at the time I was born.:confused:

It'sNotWorthComplaining!
6th June 2009, 10:47 PM
Greenie mothers - DO NOT get me started on that one :mad: :mad: :mad:. "Oh yes my child has been immunised, but we went the natural way through our naturopath." We are not allowed to tell them that they are stupid and that they would get more immunity from sitting on the beach holding a palm frond over their head chanting at the sunrise.!

I know where you are coming from.
My boys went to primary school and there were reoccurances of Head Lice...... some mothers would refuse to have their kids checked by the school nurse for head lice..... So all the others that spent big money having their kids treated were only to be re infected again and again only because of some mothers selfishness!!!

abaddonxi
6th June 2009, 11:44 PM
I was vaccinated, and still got it. My wife wasn't, and still got it.

Seems the vaccine only lasts for a few years, and just as likely to be infected by adults whose immunity has lapsed as to children who haven't been immunised.

Or so Wiki says.
Pertussis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pertussis#Current_status_of_pertussis_vaccines)

Simon

chunk
6th June 2009, 11:50 PM
It was nearly eradicated until the do good greenie mothers stopped immunising thier kids against it apparantly.
I was never vacinated against it.
Seems TB, polio etc could also come back due to non vacination practises.


Parents not vaccinating there children is not solely a "greenie" problem, it is what I call a new age parents problem. And these new age parents are people who grew up in the eighties and nineties and have never seen the affects of these childhood diseases because they weren't around when they were growing up due to immunisation.


Yes there are risks involved with immunisation, but the risks are a lot higher if there kids are not immunised. My kids are immunised and both have had Measles and Chicken pox but only very mild cases, but it could have been a lot worse without the immunisation.

DiscoStew
7th June 2009, 04:18 PM
Parents not vaccinating there children is not solely a "greenie" problem, it is what I call a new age parents problem. ...

I agree entirely. People confuse greenies with new-age because the later are more likely to get on TV chaining themselves to a duck.

Most conservationists I know are pretty level-headed and sensible.

Why are some of these immunisations even optional? Astounding how more and more people think they know more than all the doctors, researchers etc.

Only Rovers
7th June 2009, 09:28 PM
It was nearly eradicated until the do good greenie mothers stopped immunising thier kids against it apparantly.
I was never vacinated against it.
Seems TB, polio etc could also come back due to non vacination practises.

I have been doing a fair bit of personal research into this topic ( vaccinations), Actually A lot of research.

our vaccination rates for Pertussis (whooping cough) are now at their highest ever and so are the cases of the disease.:eek:
More people then ever are vaccinating for the disease.

Sweden actually stopped the vacination for whooping cough ages ago as they deemed the vaccine dangerous and i was surprised that they now have a much lower rate of the disease.

I rekon we need a lot more education about the whole topic. not many people know much about it or even want to. including my doctor.

Alot of people also dont realise fully vaccinated people can still get the disease and in fact pass it on.

I read about the fear of polio coming back the other day, but it was saying that it wasnt the wild virus they were concerned about but the mutant strain that (according to the scientists ) came from the vaccines.

I am amazed how many people run at the mouth but know bugger all about it.
Just like landcruiser owners...:wasntme:

Shamo
7th June 2009, 10:23 PM
i had one the other day too because im on a flu trial and i have to report in if i think i have the flu... turns out i had a virus and the nose thing was a waste of time... haha got it both nostrils too... fun times

Lotz-A-Landies
7th June 2009, 10:50 PM
I have been doing a fair bit of personal research into this topic ( vaccinations), Actually A lot of research.


I'm not sure about the actual sources of your information or where your comment seems to be going, other than to say: if the research you have been reading is suggesting that immunisations are of no benefit, then in a second I would strongly suggest that you dump any knowledge you got and research it in proper scientific "peer reviewed" literature. Regard most things that you read on the internet with scepticism. e.g. tonight I can write any falsehood I like into Wikipedia and it will remain there for days or even longer, perhaps become another urban myth. Try it!

Immunised people who have had the full course of a particular vaccine and who have developed an immunity, can not pass on that specific disease.

Anyone who suggests that pertussis vaccine is more dangerous than pertussis (Whooping cough) in an infant or small child, has neither seen or directly cared for a small child with whooping cough nor understands what they are talking about.

Only Rovers
8th June 2009, 08:47 AM
I'm not sure about the actual sources of your information or where your comment seems to be going, other than to say: if the research you have been reading is suggesting that immunisations are of no benefit, then in a second I would strongly suggest that you dump any knowledge you got and research it in proper scientific "peer reviewed" literature. Regard most things that you read on the internet with scepticism. e.g. tonight I can write any falsehood I like into Wikipedia and it will remain there for days or even longer, perhaps become another urban myth. Try it!

I have got my info from lots of Sources ( including , austalian Bureau of statistics, world health organisation etc etc).

Immunised people who have had the full course of a particular vaccine and who have developed an immunity, can not pass on that specific disease.

This is bit of a miss conception. both sides of the fence will quickly correct you on this.


Anyone who suggests that pertussis vaccine is more dangerous than pertussis (Whooping cough) in an infant or small child, has neither seen or directly cared for a small child with whooping cough nor understands what they are talking about.

Any way I wasnt here to say people shouldnt vaccinate etc etc or bombard you with all the info i have found only saying we need more education on it.

Blaming parents who dont vax ( which I have been guilty of) is so far wrong its not funny, if we had 100% vaccination rates for whooping cough the cold hard fact is we would still have whooping cough. sad but true.

Sprint
8th June 2009, 10:52 AM
:-( it would seem i'd better toddle off to the doc's tomorrow or when im town next.... starting to cough up some interesting specimins! lol

It'sNotWorthComplaining!
8th June 2009, 12:01 PM
:-( it would seem i'd better toddle off to the doc's tomorrow or when im town next.... starting to cough up some interesting specimins! lol

I've been doing that for 5 weeks, 3 lots of Antibiotics ( but they don't work against a virus any way) They scarey bit is when your airway closes up and you are gasping to get air.
Interesting though that they go the nasal route for the test.... what the virus only hides up in the upper extremities of the nose and doesn't venture down so the can take a nostril swab?