what do you guys do for security ??

[lardy]

Hi guys just got an email from a mate in the old country via the lro magazine forum who had his 90 half inched (poor bugger) his dad gave him the money for it, and as his old man passed on a while later, it was hugely important to him just because it was a link to his dad i am sure you understand !

Land rover theft is rife over there before i left a farmer was killed in fact run over by the thieves who stole his hpu out of the yard.
And according to my mate most get broken up and flogged on ebay or they utilise a chassis plate from a scarp yard and put it back on the road selling it to some poor unsuspecting bugger down the track.

Is landy theft as rife in Australia do you think or is it just the high spec bogan mobiles that get lifted in your opinion?

Hopefully getting the batteries back on the 130 tomorrow and getting the work done, As i can't afford to replace it was thinking of making some purchases see links below.
Centinel - Security Systems - Clutch Claw (http://www.centinel.org.uk/clutch_claw.php)
Disklok UK (http://www.disklokuk.co.uk/home.html)

It may well be overkill but a visible deterent might be the go over the hidden switch that still means you get a window put through, cheers andy

link in australia i just found http://www.disklok.com.au/products.htm

[Sprint]

my security precautions?

1: live in a small town where you can get away with not only leaving your keys in the ignition when you duck into the cafe for a snack, but leave the engine running too
(you have NO idea how tempting its been to hop in one of the running cars and park it around the corner tho! lol)
2: live a literal stones throw away from the local police station
3: develop a reputation as having a psychotic personality with a token gesture for a fuse
(VZ commodore running around with a maglite sized dent in its A pillar after he pulled out in front of me when i was on a roundabout, owner complained to me, i told him that if he pulled out in front of me like that, he wanted me to hit him, then told him to **** off or i'd put a dent in his skull :D )

[lardy]

my security precautions?

1: live in a small town where you can get away with not only leaving your keys in the ignition when you duck into the cafe for a snack, but leave the engine running too
(you have NO idea how tempting its been to hop in one of the running cars and park it around the corner tho! lol)
2: live a literal stones throw away from the local police station
3: develop a reputation as having a psychotic personality with a token gesture for a fuse
(VZ commodore running around with a maglite sized dent in its A pillar after he pulled out in front of me when i was on a roundabout, owner complained to me, i told him that if he pulled out in front of me like that, he wanted me to hit him, then told him to **** off or i'd put a dent in his skull :D )

So would you say neighbourlyness is A, a priority
B, not so much a priority
C, what is neighbourlyness anyway ???????????
I think you may have issues if politically correct rudd catches up with ya he will say "hang ya head in shame" hahaha

[lardy]

Hi guys further to an email convo with the company that makes the claw they have offered us 10 percent off.
which is great, anyone in Perth interested i am going to order one in the next couple of weeks,so maybe if you want to bung a decent deposit as a sign of good will and pop round to watch me order them, that'll save a bit of shipping, $160 for a land rover there in the morning works for me.


Hi Grant thanks for your prompt response, and very kind offer i am sure you will be hearing from myself and some of the other members over the coming weeks.
Kind regards Andy


2009/6/11 Grant Bithell <grant@centinel.org.uk>

Hi Andy

Thank you for showing interest in our company.

The clutch claw costs £89.95 which includes VAT and therefore £78.22 not incl VAT to Australia.

Shipping would be approx £60 for 1off, £124 for 5off and £200 for 10off.

Unfortunately I don't have any outlets/distributors in Oz. But to yourself and any club members I could also offer 10% discount on the product price but nothing on the shipping as that's how much they will charge me. If you mention it to your members get them to quote "LILLY" when ordering to receive the 10% discount.

Any further questions/queries please don't hesitate to contact me on the details below.

Have a great day!

Regards

Grant

Company Director
NoiseKiller Acoustics (UK) Ltd,
NK Thermal
and Centinel Security Systems
Unit 7 Parkside Ind. Est.
Edge Lane Street
Royton, Oldham
Gt. Manchester
OL2 6DS

[Sprint]

So would you say neighbourlyness is A, a priority
B, not so much a priority
C, what is neighbourlyness anyway ???????????
I think you may have issues if politically correct rudd catches up with ya he will say "hang ya head in shame" hahaha

A, though go figure, the old bat next door has a pot smoking, layabout of a son, and in all the time they've lived there, her son and i have been good friends, and i'm probably one of a VERY small group of people who havent gotten him into trouble or sold him drugs

and she hates my guts........:confused:

[JDNSW]

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Is landy theft as rife in Australia do you think or is it just the high spec bogan mobiles that get lifted in your opinion?
.......

Theft of Series/Defender Landrovers in Australia would be quite rare. In fact, large four wheel drives are at the bottom of the list for car theft in Australia, and people wanting to steal one (e.g. for a ramraid, ATM wrecking etc) will usually prefer one they are familiar with - and the rarity of Landrovers means that fewer potential thieves are familiar.

Of course, this does not mean you are immune from theft. But because relatively few people are familiar with them, simple precautions like leaving the transfer case in neutral are quite effective. And for bad areas, there is probably little to beat crawling underneath and tightening up the handbrake adjuster.

John

[Bigbjorn]

A concealed fuel tap is a real good stopper. Diesel and fuel injected petrol vehicles won't start, and carburetted vehicles will be found within a hundred metres. Did this to my late mother's LJ Torana after it was stolen from her garage and fortunately recovered undamaged. She soon learned to turn on the tap before starting.

Years ago I saw a General Motors training film on vehicle security and car theft. They interviewed a former? professional car thief who admitted to exporting more than 3000 vehicles to the Middle East and South America out of New York before he was caught. His opinion was that most anti-theft systems and devices will deter the amateur thieves and joy-riders who will move on to another and easier vehicle when yours proves difficult. He opined that if a true professional wants that car, then it is gone, no matter what is fitted. He also said that the GM factory fitted system available as an option on Corvettes was about the best. He said it takes a good five minutes to get around it.

There used to be a Sydney firm who fitted immobilisers and alarms. They publicised their product by radio programmes issuing an invitation to anybody who thought they could get around their system to go to a shopping mall where they would have car available for hopefuls to test their skills. Success brought a prize of about a week's wages then. They ended up barring a Clovelly auto electrician from the contest. I don't remember his business name but he was known locally as "George the Greek". George thought this was money for jam and took a good bit off them before they banned him.

[stevo68]

Smokey is parked outside the garage...as ours is converted.....this is my security:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/06/786.jpg

He'll hear you fart if you step onto our property..and we live on acreage. If he remotely senses that you are "foe" his demeanour changes in an instant. He has the bark and the bite and the weight behind it. If he barks..I know its something...not nothing...not like the useless at tits Golden Retriever of my partners.....

That aside....average thief is more likely to go a commodore or ford...based in statistics,

Regards

Stevo

[Scallops]

...not like the useless as tits...

Mate - tits ain't useless, far from it! ;) :p :D

[Newbs-IIA]

Yes one of the many perks of owning older cars which are now uncommon. I often leave my kingswood open with the windows down when I duck into work or local supercheap auto. I do not know many people who would jump into a '3-on-the-tree' manual and know exactly how to drive it. (most try to shove it into 1st but end up grabbing reverse - i am never far away anyway)

Same goes for the SeriesIIA - it has no roof or door locks (it does have a tricky ignition immobliser though ;) ). However I am more careful with what I leave on the seat of the car, always making sure anything of value is out of sight.

[Blknight.aus]

I drive a snotty converted diesel with the choke as the fuel cut out...

so far everyone whose tried to start it reads the "pull choke to start when engine is cold" and pulls the choke out....

IT also helps that it wont start without at least 10 seconds of glow plugs even in warm weather and the glow plugs switch is in an unadvertised position.

the best immobiliser Ive seen for a TD5 powered vehicle is a set of magnetic reed switches soldered into the main injector harness with an electromagnet laid along side. if the injector pulses cant get to the injectors........

[lardy]

Theft of Series/Defender Landrovers in Australia would be quite rare. In fact, large four wheel drives are at the bottom of the list for car theft in Australia, and people wanting to steal one (e.g. for a ramraid, ATM wrecking etc) will usually prefer one they are familiar with - and the rarity of Landrovers means that fewer potential thieves are familiar.

Of course, this does not mean you are immune from theft. But because relatively few people are familiar with them, simple precautions like leaving the transfer case in neutral are quite effective. And for bad areas, there is probably little to beat crawling underneath and tightening up the handbrake adjuster.

John

bloody hell how simple is that and it'll give the transfer case a bit of a regular work out too

[dmdigital]

Easy, drive a Defender in a town full of Toyotas. Everyone thinks they're crap and they can't find the ignition switch anyway. Toyotas get stolen though!

[Grover-98]

I live on a property and love the security or not needing to lock cars and such, i always hate leaving my car outside a mates or in town! :(

[clean32]

Laos, a chinese made canister ( nasty copper wire job) under the seat. used once no problem after that word get around. Government ute but better than getting stranded north of the PDJ.
Russia just a Military cap on the dash and Black plates ( could leave the keys in )
Adelaide,always losing the keys ( left in ) and always forgetting to lock up.

[Panda]

That's the way to go Stevo ... I miss my Shepherd! :BigCry::BigCry:


Smokey is parked outside the garage...as ours is converted.....this is my security:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/06/786.jpg

He'll hear you fart if you step onto our property..and we live on acreage. If he remotely senses that you are "foe" his demeanour changes in an instant. He has the bark and the bite and the weight behind it. If he barks..I know its something...not nothing...not like the useless at tits Golden Retriever of my partners.....

That aside....average thief is more likely to go a commodore or ford...based in statistics,

Regards

Stevo

[Panda]

Security for the SIII - at home I always leave the keys in the ignitition, but if I have to go somewhere I deem may be a risk, i.e. Cambelltown, I just take the fuses out, put in neutral & change fuel tank over to the empty one ...

[3toes]

I vote for the fuel line kill switch. Simple to fit and easy to hide.

Once came home jet lagged and for some reason decided I needed to drive the car. Would normally wait until I had had a nights sleep. Backed it out and remembered something so parked outside the house and went back into the house. Came out and car would not start. Neighbour across the road came over to see what was wrong. He had seen that I could leave the car for a month or more and it would still start so was surprised it was causing problems. We messed around for an hour before another neighbour came out who also climbed under the bonnet to see why it would not start. Why was there no spark when it had started easily not long ago? Finally I remembered the kill switch hidden under the dash ! Had turned it automatically (to this day do not remember turning it either when I started the car or parked) then forgotten all about it. Perhaps I was still too jet lagged to drive so put the car back in the drive and provided some liquid refreshment for my will assistants instead.

[Captain_Rightfoot]

Smokey is parked outside the garage...as ours is converted.....this is my security:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/06/786.jpg

He'll hear you fart if you step onto our property..and we live on acreage. If he remotely senses that you are "foe" his demeanour changes in an instant. He has the bark and the bite and the weight behind it. If he barks..I know its something...not nothing...not like the useless at tits Golden Retriever of my partners.....

That aside....average thief is more likely to go a commodore or ford...based in statistics,

Regards

Stevo
What kinda dog is that Steve... he's winking!

[dullbird]

a clever one

[abaddonxi]

Before the recent move I was in Leichhardt, which tops the most cars stolen list for Sydney every other year. I've had five or six cars stolen.

Never locked the Defender, or 120", or 110. Never broken into, never stolen.

And just for comparison purposes, Rilka's 1968 Datsun 1600, which looked like it was forty years old, was stolen twice or three times.

As soon as they stop being shiny, one Defender looks to the non-enthusiast like any other Land Rover made since the middle of last century.

Has anyone on here from Australia actually had their Defender stolen?

[strewberry]

i'v only heared of a few landys being stolen since i'v be into em and thats since i was a kid. but i do take the roter buten transfur in nutrel and the dog sleeps in it and he knows that if she go's so do's he

[Sprint]

yea, but all that means is your dog doesnt care who drives!

[lardy]

yea, but all that means is your dog doesnt care who drives!

your onto something there sprint dogs can be so fickle at times haha

[lardy]

As soon as they stop being shiny, one Defender looks to the non-enthusiast like any other Land Rover made since the middle of last century.

Has anyone on here from Australia actually had their Defender stolen?[/QUOTE]

maybe we should have a poll on landy's stolen would be interesting to see if they do get hammered as so many people have turned their backs on them in favour of the hzj thingy