View Full Version : How high is your D3
wardh
20th June 2009, 06:31 PM
This is following on from the Post RE D3 s off road.
What I am after is some height measurements of members D3s to assist me in selecting a set of front springs to best match the raised ones already fitted to the rear end of my 2006 D3 s coiler. The waters have become a little muddy as the number on the Kings springs I have fitted are not listed and there seems to be some conjecture on the amount of lift current listed springs give.
The measurements can be from air suspension models at off road height (this will give me an indication of how they normaly sit on level ground at that setting, tail up, level etc) this will give a comparison.
All you coilers out there. Measurements of Coilers standard and lifted.
The points of measurement I am after are as follows and if you could include whether the vehicle is on standard tyres or not would be good.
On level ground:-
1, height from ground to the highest point of the bottom edge of wheel arch or flare (measured vertically through the outside centre of the road wheel) front and back wheel arches.
2, height from the ground to the lowest point of the rear diff.
3, Height from the ground to the lowest point at the center of the member between the front wheels.
I think this could be an interesting excercise for quite a few members who have changed or are thinking of altering suspension as it will give a base, comparison and reference ie! has my suspension sagged is it standard, what have I gained etc.
I will start with my vehicle as it is at the moment and the suggested format
2006 tdv6 D3 s (coiler) tyres standard 235/70 17. Suspension lifted in the rear.
1, F(front) 805mm. R(rear) 875mm.
2, RD(rear diff) 235mm
3, FM(front member) 185mm
Thanks for your participation and feed back.
Cheers
Howard
Drover
20th June 2009, 06:54 PM
Hey Wardh,
The follow measurement are for a TDV6 SE - "Off Road" setting - Air Suspension.
1/ Front - 890mm
Rear - 895mm
2/ Cross Member - 270mm
3/ Bottom of Diff - 270mm (Note exhaust pipes 5-10mm lower)
Tyres = Goodyear Silent Amour 265x60x18. 50% worn or 10mm.
Hope this helps.
Cheers
rmp
20th June 2009, 08:53 PM
would also be interesting to post difference between Normal and Offroad heights.
WhiteD3
21st June 2009, 09:20 AM
1) Rear = 880, Front = 865
2) 248
3) 260 from the underside of the bash plate, lowest point.
Tyres are brand new Pirelli Scorpion ATR 255/60 R18.
Interesting the difference in height from front to rear. All I did was start the car in the garage and raise it, so maybe the self levelling mode was active.
wardh
21st June 2009, 10:42 AM
Thanks WhiteD3
I was wondering if this excercise would start to show some variations between vehicles. It will be interesting as it progresses.
Lets hope we get a few to compare. Keep them coming.
Cheers
Howard
2_door
21st June 2009, 08:10 PM
can anyone post up some pics of the D3 in standard height as well as off road height, I would imagine seeing these different heights would add some meaning to the measurements :D ie 50mm doesnt sound much but looks alot more :(
Graeme
21st June 2009, 08:52 PM
The WSM documents that offroad height is 55mm above std height, and access mode is 50mm below std height. Remember that the vehicle will need to be moved when changing heights to allow the track to adjust.
Xtreme
21st June 2009, 10:13 PM
can anyone post up some pics of the D3 in standard height as well as off road height, I would imagine seeing these different heights would add some meaning to the measurements :D ie 50mm doesnt sound much but looks alot more :(
Attached is a 'graph of two standard D3's side by side and at the lowest (access mode) and the highest setting - not normal 'off road' mode but the setting you can achieve after bottoming out in off road mode (computer automatically senses you are stuck and raises extra 35mm [I think] - then you can, with a bit of trickery, raise it a further 35mm [once again, I'm not sure of these measurements but they'd be pretty close].
This setting can only be obtained after the automatic lift as mentioned above and as it results in the vehicle being at the max air bag extension, it would not be wise to drive at this height - apart from a short distance to clear an obstacle and get 'unstuck'
Xtreme
21st June 2009, 10:19 PM
Another angle on the same two vehicles in previous post.
Drover
22nd June 2009, 08:16 PM
Hey Extreme,
I am interested in your post about raising the suspension to max height.
How is max setting achieved ?
Is able to de done manually or is it just something the computer does ?
Any additional info would be appreciated.
Regards
rmp
22nd June 2009, 09:13 PM
Set your D3 to offroad height. Stick a block of wood under the chassis. Lower. Car will go into Extended. Once there, foot on brake, hold air susp up toggle for 3 seconds to go into Super Extended.
CaverD3
22nd June 2009, 09:20 PM
Easy:D
Put in off road height.
place axle stand or 4x2 under chassis.
lower to normal height
vehicle goes into extended mode
foot on brake and hold up suspension lever until bong.
vehicle in super extended mode.
CaverD3
22nd June 2009, 09:22 PM
Snap:D
Xtreme
23rd June 2009, 09:16 AM
Hey Extreme,
I am interested in your post about raising the suspension to max height.
How is max setting achieved ?
Is able to de done manually or is it just something the computer does ?
Any additional info would be appreciated.
Regards
As outlined by rmp & CaverD3.
It should be noted that you can only achieve 'Super Extended' mode after car automatically goes from 'Off Road' mode to 'Extended' mode - this happens once the computer senses that the car has failed to proceed in 'Off Road' mode. Using the block of wood or axle stand under the chassis simulates this or if in the bush you may be hung up in a ramp over situation or on a rock etc. The car will then go into 'Extended' mode automatically and if desired/required the extra 35mm height to 'Super Extended' mode can be achieved by simultaneous engagement of foot brake and air suspension up toggle.
As mentioned in previous post though "it would not be wise to drive at this height".
wardh
24th June 2009, 11:35 PM
Attention D3 coiler owners,
Could we have some measurements from the owners of the D3 coilers please to see how they compare, particularly suspension specs of the raised spring ones.
It looks like I may have finally sorted out the springs for the front of my D3 (to match the rear). King Spring set No KRFR 13, they will give me a lift of 50mm to 55mm which will increase the front cross member clearance to around 240mm which should make a noticeable diffference. Still not as high as the air suspension at normal off road height.
Keep the info comeing
Thanks
Howard
Selwyn
14th July 2009, 07:03 PM
2005 D3 coil spring
Tyres Michelin Cross Terrain 265/65R17
FL 820mm FR 805mm
RL 815mm RR 820mm
Front cross member 200mm
Rear bottom diff 180mm
Need some new springs
wardh
15th July 2009, 12:32 PM
The front springs are in my D3 coiler and have had a few days to bed in with a little off road help to flex them to their limits.
The measurements are as follows
Before
1 F (front) 805mm R (rear) 875mm
2 RD (rear diff) 235mm
3 FM (front cross member) 185mm
After front lift
1 F 860mm R 875mm
2 RD 235mm
3 FM 240mm
The increased lift over my vehicles standard height is 55mm which for me is a very worthwhile gain
I will be putting up a post of all the modifications I have made to date with a few pics if I can work out how to include them for anyone interested.
It may be time time to change my Avitar picture. I still miss the old Disco tdi
Howard
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