Are you flying tomorrow?

[Chucaro]

Then have a look this video :)

YouTube - These are some damn good airline pilots!

[Pedro_The_Swift]

worth every cent they get paid I reckon,,,

I'll fly with the guy at 1.10 any time!!


Thanks Arthur;)

[willem]

Some amazing aeroplane driving there! I'm glad I don't have to do it!

Willem

[Chucaro]

I remember our flight from Port Macquarie to Sydney on one of the “crop dusters” back in 1994 after our bike accident.
The weather was shocking in Sydney with very strong side winds; we were seating on the front row and were able to see the cockpit and the approach to landing.
Awesome! The plane was complete out of line in relation to the landing line and the plane was moving left and right with force however the pilot controlled the plane very well on the last 50 meters or so and we landed without dramas.
One thing that brought us to the attention was that the copilot was reading the book with the proceedings landing when the Capitan was approaching landing. I guess that are the rules but at that moment you have the bad feeling that one of them are “learning by the :angel:

[101RRS]

Have to agree that there is some good flying there - however most of it displays poor airmanship and in most cases the aircraft or the landing gear would have been overstressed on landing. In the majority of those clips, the cross wind component clearly exceeds the safe flight envelope of the aircraft and the prudent approach would have been to request a better runway, wait for better conditions or divert to the selected diversion.

It is just not worth risking the aircraft and passengers to make the schedule.

A number of aircraft I have flown have subsequently crashed due to excessive cross winds and the attitude that "we can get in".

Garry

[Chucaro]

Garry your comment is interesting.
I just wonder what kin of options have the DH8 Capitan regarding optional airports considering the range of the DH8 and the weather conditions on that time on the east coast of NSW.
I am not a pilot but I have the feeling that landing in Sydney in our flight from Port Macquarie was very close to be on the edge of the capabilities of the plane. It was very close to missed the runway

[Camo]

Have to agree that there is some good flying there - however most of it displays poor airmanship and in most cases the aircraft or the landing gear would have been overstressed on landing. In the majority of those clips, the cross wind component clearly exceeds the safe flight envelope of the aircraft and the prudent approach would have been to request a better runway, wait for better conditions or divert to the selected diversion.

It is just not worth risking the aircraft and passengers to make the schedule.

A number of aircraft I have flown have subsequently crashed due to excessive cross winds and the attitude that "we can get in".

Garry

Nah they are professional pilots. Bit rough to comment on the pilots skills when you are not there in the situation.

Camo

[Sleepy]

Have to agree that there is some good flying there - however most of it displays poor airmanship and in most cases the aircraft or the landing gear would have been overstressed on landing. In the majority of those clips, the cross wind component clearly exceeds the safe flight envelope of the aircraft and the prudent approach would have been to request a better runway, wait for better conditions or divert to the selected diversion.

It is just not worth risking the aircraft and passengers to make the schedule.

A number of aircraft I have flown have subsequently crashed due to excessive cross winds and the attitude that "we can get in".

Garry

I think a couple of those B777 shots would be test flights.

I tend to agree Garry, but often that crosswind can pick up at the last minute. The shot of the KLM at the old Hong Kong airport is a classic case - there is no option.

I am always impressed how strong undercarriage is, even watching the small Piper 28s smash it down with 25knots of crosswind it is amazing how they don't collapse.

Good video nonetheless - thanks.

[DeanoH]

Looking at some of those landings makes me thankful that Hong Kongs Kai Tak is now closed.

Deano

[101RRS]

Garry your comment is interesting.
I just wonder what kin of options have the DH8 Capitan regarding optional airports considering the range of the DH8 and the weather conditions on that time on the east coast of NSW.
I am not a pilot but I have the feeling that landing in Sydney in our flight from Port Macquarie was very close to be on the edge of the capabilities of the plane. It was very close to missed the runway

The majority, if not all commercial aircraft will have an alternate airport nominated (certainly if marginal weather is forecast) and they must carry enough fuel to reach the primary and then divert to arrive at the alternate with statutory reserves of fuel remaining.

It has been many years since I have flown on my commercial pilots licence and done senior commercial an air transport subjects buy I think requirements are still the same.

Heavy transports into Sydney will have places like Brisbane and Melbourne as nominated alternates where the bug smashers will have places like Wollongong, Bankstown, Camden, Hoxton and Newcastle as alternatives.

Garry

[101RRS]

Nah they are professional pilots. Bit rough to comment on the pilots skills when you are not there in the situation.

Camo

Not commenting on their skills - just their airmanship.

Unfortunately heavy transports do crash more often than you think in these circumstances.

Garry

[BigJon]

I have seeen a few of those before and there are a few crosswind test landings in that lot.

There are also some commercial landings they were lucky to get away with.

[Bigbjorn]

Honed their skills driving speedway midgets. Throw it fully sideways into Pits Corner and come out lined up into the short straight.

[Sleepy]

Honed their skills driving speedway midgets. Throw it fully sideways into Pits Corner and come out lined up into the short straight.

Yes, I've always thought a rudder would be handy on a Land Rover. I hate it when the back wheels try to overtake that front:eek:

[V8Ian]

I'll bet there are pinch marks on some of those pilot seats!:o

[strangy]

Some of those shots are test flights specific to test the landing gear.
A lot are just plain poor conditions.

It often looks more dramatic than it actually is.

Often larger aircraft can handle stronger x winds, than their smaller counterparts.

But then as said, some should have gone around around for another crack because when they're that out of shape, the results are rarely ideal.

[Chucaro]

Even if some of them are about testing the landing gear there is not doubt that the pilots have the know how to controlling the plane.

[disco gazza]

Back in the early eighties,I was flying into Hong Kong,the pilot had told us that we would be flying into a typhoon as we approached Honkers.
For the last hour or so of the trip,we were all strapped in(inlcuding the cabin crew).We were approaching from the harbour and just as we were about to touch down,the plane went sideways.....:eek:
The pilot put the juice into the engines and we were off to Taipan(spelling) for the next 24 hrs.
It was an experience I wouldnt want to live thru again.

Cheers
disco gazza
92 disco tdi

[adm333]

As a "bug smasher" pilot doing my training at Bankstown, I remember it being a great feeling doing a good cross wind landing.

Unless you were lined up on the centre runway (of 3), then it was a bit less forgiving.