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Chucaro
28th June 2009, 05:50 PM
I am not an expert and never have done serious 4WD but I like to see technical 4WD drives.

I think that this Range Rover? is very well setup and the suspension will make Mark (2Door) drool :D

What it is your opinion about the set up?

YouTube - Krawling with X-Eng Springs

Slunnie
28th June 2009, 08:00 PM
I really like it. I would much rather do that than have a regular dislocating setup.

McDisco
28th June 2009, 08:08 PM
What sort of setup is that? Some sort of modular variable spring or something?

Angus

long stroke
28th June 2009, 08:18 PM
a link to their sight

X-eng High Performance Off-Road Engineering (http://www.x-eng.co.uk/X-Spring.asp)

Thanks for posting!!
Very clever idea, now thinking of this for the county, i've sent them an email asking how much postage will be out of interest:angel:

TIM.

Chucaro
28th June 2009, 08:22 PM
Good idea Tim, looks a good setup and the performance of the rangie is very impressive. I guess that it is a 4.2 V8 or bigger.

McDisco
28th June 2009, 09:14 PM
Would these work on a rangie? Seems that site intends them for 110s...

Angus

long stroke
28th June 2009, 09:20 PM
Would these work on a rangie? Seems that site intends them for 110s...

Angus

I think they they do.
I'll have another look
Well they are on a rangie in the vid

McDisco
28th June 2009, 09:46 PM
Good point...

Angus

cal415
28th June 2009, 11:12 PM
They do them for both 5 and 6 inch coils for rangies/90s/discos and 110. I would really like a set myself, i have been eying them off for a long time but they are fairly costly to get over here, but if we did a group buy :)

Slunnie
28th June 2009, 11:26 PM
They do them for both 5 and 6 inch coils for rangies/90s/discos and 110. I would really like a set myself, i have been eying them off for a long time but they are fairly costly to get over here, but if we did a group buy :)
They would be interesting to try to fab up the cup from 2mm or so and invert the lower perch and run a suzuki or coilover spring in it. Retain the top of the upper spring and the lower would act to relocate.

cal415
28th June 2009, 11:48 PM
For sure, i wonder how expensive it would be to get someone to make up the cup sections

Slunnie
29th June 2009, 12:30 AM
For sure, i wonder how expensive it would be to get someone to make up the cup sections

I think about 2 periods for my Yr12's. 1 to jig and cut (plasma), 1 to roll, weld and grind. I have to admit though, some of them are freaky good metalworkers. HSC due dates are way too close though and they are way too focussed on their own work.

I cant imagine they would be too expensive, its labour that will cost for one offs. From a fab shop I would guess at $100-150.

Chucaro
29th June 2009, 03:57 PM
These LLama 11" travel shock kits for the LR are looking good

The link is HERE (http://www.llama4x4.com/page4.htm)

long stroke
29th June 2009, 05:08 PM
That kit looks the goods also, for the whole lot it comes in at just under 339 GBP = $700 AUS;)

CHEERS TIM.

Offender90
29th June 2009, 06:01 PM
That kit looks the goods also, for the whole lot it comes in at just under 339 GBP = $700 AUS;)

CHEERS TIM.

Is this the price you got quoted? - The website lists the at 441 GBP inc VAT. Take off the 17.5% VAT, the kit comes out to 375 GBP + shipping.

Did you get a quote on shipping?

Chucaro
29th June 2009, 06:16 PM
A photo with the kit showing a good flex is HERE (http://www.llama4x4.com/USERIMAGES/Suspension%201%20cropped(1).jpg) and HERE (http://www.llama4x4.com/USERIMAGES/9316%20with%20Xspring.jpg) :cool:

long stroke
29th June 2009, 06:21 PM
Is this the price you got quoted? - The website lists the at 441 GBP inc VAT. Take off the 17.5% VAT, the kit comes out to 375 GBP + shipping.

Did you get a quote on shipping?

na i just added the prices togethor then converted them to AUS dollars, looks like i made a mistake somewhere:angel:
sorry
(Not including postage)

CHEERS TIM.

long stroke
29th June 2009, 06:24 PM
A photo with the kit showing a good flex is HERE (http://www.llama4x4.com/USERIMAGES/Suspension%201%20cropped(1).jpg) and HERE (http://www.llama4x4.com/USERIMAGES/9316%20with%20Xspring.jpg) :cool:

Nice:cool:
So that setup is the 'X-springs' and that shock kit you posted before?

Chucaro
29th June 2009, 06:34 PM
Nice:cool:
So that setup is the 'X-springs' and that shock kit you posted before?

No this kits are from LLama the page is here
LLAMA 4x4 - Land Rover Suspension (http://www.llama4x4.com/page4.htm)

Cheers

Chucaro
29th June 2009, 06:43 PM
X-eng sell the THESE (http://www.x-eng.co.uk/X-Flex.asp?MID=2) parts

and at the bottom of the page they recomend the Llama shock kits.
So if you like the setup of the vid you need the X-Flex Kit (X-Joints, Arms, Springs & Ball) plus the Llama kit.
That it is the way that I understand it.
For sure you have a better english than me so post a quik email to x-eng and see how much cost the full kit (x-eng + Lllama)

Cheers

2_door
29th June 2009, 08:54 PM
thanks Arthur, I dont know how I missed your post. nice vid too :eek:

I agree, you will need their rose jointed trailing arms as the stock rover arms just wont flex like that :( plus shocks and I dont think Shane would have anything that long :( and the coil set up....its a brilliant job but we live at the wrong end of the planet to make it viable....unless I get those 7 numbers tomorrow night :):):):):):) I will go over and bring a set back for everyone :p

Grimace
30th June 2009, 09:28 AM
I disagree. I dont see cycling 11" shocks as such a big deal, and the standard rear chassis bush can easily handle that sort of flex.

The aframe ball joint will bind before the rear links, so unless your willing to change the aframe design, heim jointed rear links are IMHO pointless.

The cranked Llama arms look nice and you will notice they too retain the original pin design at the chassis end.

As for the spring system, it's over rated in my opinion, I would much rather loose some flex and retain the springs upper and lower.

All in all that's still a cool vid and a cool car, I just don't think it would suit 90% of the wheeling most of us do.

Cheers
Grimace

Psimpson7
30th June 2009, 09:35 AM
Is this the price you got quoted? - The website lists the at 441 GBP inc VAT. Take off the 17.5% VAT, the kit comes out to 375 GBP + shipping.

Did you get a quote on shipping?

VAT is only 15% now

2_door
30th June 2009, 03:25 PM
thanks Grimace, thats one less set I will have to buy after tonight ;););););)

cheers mate