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CraigE
30th June 2009, 10:38 PM
Have just had a read of the NCOP for modified vehicles and will read the proposed ammendments soon.
What a PIA. It is going to be or should I say is already very difficult to make any modifications. There are some real issues for modified car owners.
I am intending to retore my Torana and fitting a later model engine is going to have some interesting issues.
isuzurover
30th June 2009, 10:54 PM
Have just had a read of the NCOP for modified vehicles and will read the proposed ammendments soon.
What a PIA. It is going to be or should I say is already very difficult to make any modifications. There are some real issues for modified car owners.
I am intending to retore my Torana and fitting a later model engine is going to have some interesting issues.
From what I have read it will generally make things easier for 4x4 owners (except for those who have silly lifts). 50mm increase in tyre diameter will be allowed without approval (WA allows ~ 0 at the moment???) Alternative road wheels (http://www.dpi.wa.gov.au/licensing/1884.asp)
Which bits relate to fitting a newer engine??? Usually that is encouraged.
lardy
30th June 2009, 11:50 PM
was thinking of going for some after market road wheels might just stick with the wolf wheels (add paint) and get some bfg's to fit sounds hell easier
Slunnie
1st July 2009, 06:39 PM
Have just had a read of the NCOP for modified vehicles and will read the proposed ammendments soon.
What a PIA. It is going to be or should I say is already very difficult to make any modifications. There are some real issues for modified car owners.
I am intending to retore my Torana and fitting a later model engine is going to have some interesting issues.
I don't think the rules will be retrospective when introduced, but I'm not sure how that will impact on a pre-NCOP vehicle that is being engineered after the introduction of the NCOP.
CraigE
5th July 2009, 10:21 PM
I don't think the rules will be retrospective when introduced, but I'm not sure how that will impact on a pre-NCOP vehicle that is being engineered after the introduction of the NCOP.
I have had some discussion on other modified vehicle sites, in person and with an inspector and at least in WA these NCOP's are retrospective for what is currentlly being enforced and will also be for what is proposed. Some are being recognised and enforced now without most of us even knowing about them. Also as it states in the NCOP's, ignorance for the rules is not an excuse. One of the questions I have is are these codes legal as codes are not legislation and to the letter of the law do not have to be abided by. I know of similar things in the mining industry that are usually adopted but do not have to be if a company decides otherwise.
For example I intended to fit and injected Holden 5 litre. 2 years ago it would not have required a certificate as it was a straight changeover and within the manufacturers specs. Now it will require an engineering certificate and must run the emmission sytem from the donor vehicle including catalytic convertors. A guy I know fitted his 3 years ago legally without cats or cannister as it was a 75 LH. If he is pulled up by a police officer or RTA inspector that knows what they are looking at his car can be red stickered. The sad thing is it is replacing the old red motors with cleaner more fuel efficient motors is being stymied. There is a way around this and that is for me to use a red block with an injected top end, but not really practical. Then there are issues that I can put the 5 litre into a Hilux or similar with less restrictions, Go figure.
I have not finished reading them but there are some things that look ominous.
Other examples are guys currentlly tubbing vehicles that will be made illegal.
Bigbjorn
6th July 2009, 08:34 AM
The state authorities pay lip service to the idea of a National Code of Practice and Uniform Road Rules. It is up to each state to legislate the adoption. In practice, each state interpretes the rules their own way and/or to suit "special local conditions" and then claim they have adopted a uniform code. Just look at truck size, mass, speed limits which were supposed to be uniform Australia wide after the NAASRA conferences in the mid to late seventies. Never happened.
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