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Jamo
12th July 2009, 09:11 PM
Our Subaru Forester (MY99 auto 2.0l) has developed a squeal when cold. It starts to squeal when I take off, but the squeal only lasts for about 200 metres.

It then doesn't do it again until then next morning.

I don't think it's a slipping belt as that should occur sprodically, not just on first start; and it's quite loud.

Anyone got any ideas?

BigJon
12th July 2009, 10:38 PM
Does it go away with application of the brakes?

Allan
12th July 2009, 11:25 PM
I would think ,if its a manual it colld be the spiggot bearing, used to be very common problem in Ford Escorts/Cortinas in the 70's

Allan

sumo
13th July 2009, 07:47 AM
Our Subaru Forester (MY99 auto 2.0l) has developed a squeal when cold. It starts to squeal when I take off, but the squeal only lasts for about 200 metres.

It then doesn't do it again until then next morning.

I don't think it's a slipping belt as that should occur sprodically, not just on first start; and it's quite loud.

Anyone got any ideas?

Hi Jamo, Take the belts off and check the Harmonic balancer, Mine seperated at the rubber and was making noises on cold start up, My brothers 2.5 06 imprezza did the same thing last week!, looking like a common fault:eek:


Cheers Sumo

Jamo
13th July 2009, 03:48 PM
BigJon, I forgot to check the brakes this morning so I'll do that tomorrow.

Thanks Sumo, I lifted the bonnet at start up this morning and had a listen. It seems like the squeal is coming from the harmonic balancer and there's a slight rubber burning smell.

She has done 246000km now with no other faults (other than a rear main seal that went 1yr out of warranty and when I went to collect her from the dealer they said 'No Charge'..Subaru picked up the bill as they said it should never have happened!)

I will have to wait to replace the HB as the D3's in Albany at the mo having an extreme makeover.

Pedro_The_Swift
13th July 2009, 04:17 PM
I will have to wait to replace the HB as the D3's in Albany at the mo having an extreme makeover.



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13th July 2009, 04:29 PM
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Jamo
13th July 2009, 05:09 PM
Can't say much at this stage until she's back and the dust has settled, but suffice to say that LRA have listened to my (post manufacturer's warranty) cries of despair and have taken her off to locate and correct any issues.

feraldisco
13th July 2009, 06:54 PM
Our Subaru Forester (MY99 auto 2.0l) has developed a squeal when cold. It starts to squeal when I take off, but the squeal only lasts for about 200 metres.

It then doesn't do it again until then next morning.

I don't think it's a slipping belt as that should occur sprodically, not just on first start; and it's quite loud.

Anyone got any ideas?

I would always check the simplest/cheapest things first, and I've had a squealing fan belt on start-up that disappears in first few hundred metres, so I'd hit the belt with some belt grip spray as a starting point - good product for keeping belts in good nick even if it isn't your problem...

LandyAndy
14th July 2009, 09:39 PM
Jamo
Its a belt slip for sure,once the slip causes heat its griping.
Just inherited the bosses Rodeo for 3 weeks,yet another new set of belts on,we HAVE to do it ever 20thou with this pig,couldnt put up with the squeel,dont know how he does,we give him enough poo about it.
Another way to check,I went through a deep puddle yesterday,the brake and alternator lights lit up.Suspected a belt thrown,not so soon as it got warm and dried out normality resumed.
Andrew

Jamo
14th July 2009, 10:18 PM
Thanks, I've got a couple of spare belts in the shed, so I'll fit them on the weekend and see if it goes away before I order in a new balancer.

Lionel
15th July 2009, 08:31 AM
Our Subaru Forester (MY99 auto 2.0l) has developed a squeal when cold. It starts to squeal when I take off, but the squeal only lasts for about 200 metres.

It then doesn't do it again until then next morning.

I don't think it's a slipping belt as that should occur sprodically, not just on first start; and it's quite loud.

Anyone got any ideas?

This is quite a normal description of belt squeal. It usually shows up when the engine is cold, with maximum load from the alternator, topping up the battery after having started a cold engine.

The belt will also grip better when it warms up a bit - reducing or eliminating the squeal.

The belt may be dirty or getting worn, or the tensioner may need checking. While the pulley may be a problem, the belt & tensioner are more likely culprits.

Cheers,

Lionel

Jamo
15th July 2009, 10:39 PM
Firstly, BigJon, to answer your question, no, it doesn't go away when I brake.

Secondly, I should have had a closer look before. The ridges on all the pulleys are shiny like something's been polishing them (like a fan belt!)

And, I can get the car to make the noise by going onto full lock at low speed, where the power steering pump would be working harder.

So i;ts a fair bet it's the belts. I'll change them this weekend.

Thanks to everyone for the advice!