Grey Defender 90 at Alto - Anyone know this car?

[spudboy]

I've made a phone enquiry about this 90 for sale at Alto:

Used LAND ROVER DEFENDER 90 03MY X-TREME 2004 - New South Wales - CarPoint Australia (http://www.carpoint.com.au/used-car/LAND%20ROVER/DEFENDER/New%20South%20Wales/csn7322782.aspx)

Anyone here know it? Bought in Melbourne, spent some time up in Cairns, now being sold in Sydney. Prev owner's name name Tim Noble.

Looks nicely fitted out, full of genuine LR kit, so the previous owner has spent some $$ on it.

I asked the sales-girl to send me a photo of the underneath, such as the front diff, to see if it has done any hard Off Road, and she sent me a photo of the front steering protector bar :mad:. I have since called her back and explained what a diff is!!

Good service history. Fully LR stamped. Over-priced, but you kind of expect that from Alto....

Any thoughts?

[spudboy]

OK, looks like no one knows the vehicle.

Any thoughts otherwise?

[dullbird]

errrrrrrrrrrrr get it down to 30 and buy it :lol2:

just my 2c worth :p

[spudboy]

Well, I think $30K is optimistic. Maybe $35K, they are a dealer after all, not the same as going private.

[dullbird]

30 most privates are going between 26k and 28 of the same age

[spudboy]

Well $30K would have it sold to me in a flash. Can't see them dropping $10K though.

Reckon they'd have paid $28K-$30K for it. Who knows.

They kept telling me how they knew how rare it was, so I don't think they will want it quit it for nothing just to move it on.

[dullbird]

yeah but you can also try the rare yes it is BUT go find someone to buy it.....one thing I have learnt from being on this forum is everyone wants one until its time to cough up the money.

i think Phil got 28 for his and it had a HELL of a lot of goodies on that car far more than what would be on offer with this one i'm sure.

[spudboy]

Hey - I kick myself about 2 or 3 times a week that I wasn't quick enough to snare that one :(

[dullbird]

there was one on ebay for about 2 month solid for 26k he had dropped the price because he couldn't sell it haven't seen it on there for a while so must of gone that one was silver

[Grover-98]

Looks like a great example of a 90!

Money might be slightly on the steep side but i think its a reasonable price :)

[dullbird]

pretty sure before phil sold it he had a value given to him at 30,000 by the insurance company.

Have you looked at redbook? I wouldn't pay 40,000 for one regardless of how rare

[spudboy]

there was one on ebay for about 2 month solid for 26k he had dropped the price because he couldn't sell it haven't seen it on there for a while so must of gone that one was silver

Ah - it's always the way. When I didn't have the money, there were a few around.

Now that I have the money, I can hardly find anything, well,... excepting for the 4 banana yellow ones that were for sale for AGES. Still 2 left, but I really can't come at that colour :eek:

[spudboy]

Looks like a great example of a 90!

Money might be slightly on the steep side but i think its a reasonable price :)

I don't think $40K is reasonable, but I have a little voice in my head saying that $35 wouldn't be ridiculous.

[Bushie]

Pay what YOU believe is reasonable. If it's good value to you then it's good value. If you are not happy trying to pull the price down to $30k but are happy to pay $35k then buy it.

At the end of the day you are the one that needs to be satisfied with both the vehicle and the price you paid.

Will you end up kicking yourself - If only I'd offered an extra $1000 ??



Martyn

[Psimpson7]

I think it looks nice. I agree that the price seems a bit high, but on the std vs modified comment I would rather buy as an original one as I could and modify it myself, and that one looks nicely specced with genuine stuff.

[spudboy]

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Will you end up kicking yourself - If only I'd offered an extra $1000 ??

Martyn

I know what you mean. I got gazumped on one in Melbourne by $1000 a few months ago. Had agreed on the price etc of $31K with the seller, but someone else cut in later in the afternoon with a better offer. I couldn't go any higher, so good luck to the seller but not for me.

[discowhite]

i would have sold you mine for 31grand;)

cheers phil

[spudboy]

By the time I saw it for sale, it was sold!

[Jeff]

I saw it the other day, we were looking at a 110 and my daughter said she wanted to look at it, until she saw it was only a two seater. I didn't like how there were holes where things had been removed, but didn't look too closely.

Jeff

:rocket:

[spudboy]

Tell me more about the holes! What do you think was removed, and where from?

Did it look like a well cared for car, or one that had been "detailed" back to looking good?

Thanks for the info.

[Offender90]

Looks great, but as others have said, too pricey IMO. If you price all the extras as new parts + installation from places like ARB, it will probably ad dup to around the $6k mark, for bar, winch, towbar, CB, side steps, spotlights and a snorkel.

Doing the installation yourself would save you ~ $1k minimum, and if you were doing it on the cheap, you could probably halve the original cost.

On top of which, you'd get your to fit only what you want. - If it were me, I'd change the bullbar to a standard ARB bar and would replace the sidesteps with rocksliders for example.

What I'm getting at is, I'd compare it to prices of other 90's recently sold, price in how much you'd be prepared to pay for the extras and how important it is to get one in the next few weeks (give it a dollar value), sum it all up, and presto!

If you can wait for several months, I'd definately see what else is around. Even if you've really got your eye set on this one, how likely are they to sell it in a hurry at anywhere near their asking price? The more it sits in their yard, the more bargining power you have.

Just some thoughts.

Cheers

Bojan

[spudboy]

...how important it is to get one in the next few weeks (give it a dollar value), sum it all up, and presto!

If you can wait for several months, I'd definately see what else is around. Even if you've really got your eye set on this one, how likely are they to sell it in a hurry at anywhere near their asking price? The more it sits in their yard, the more bargining power you have.

Just some thoughts.

Cheers

Bojan

No hurry to get one. It is only going to be a weekend driver for playing, so I don't really n..e..e..d.. it at all (just ask my missus :()

Have been looking off and on for six months, but not a lot on the market, and whilst the 4 yellow ones for sale might have been mechanically OK the colour was a no go for me.

There is another in Victoria for $29K, but it has higher KMs, and the front and the back tyres do not match, which makes me think poorly of whoever would do that, so I have not enquired about that one.

[BMKal]

Just had to double check to see that what is in the photo is the same vehicle advertised. In their specs, they say "body coloured wheel flares" and "nudge bar". But the rego numbers match ................ :D

Nice looking unit I reckon. Don't ask me about the right price though - I'll bow to the knowledge of those more familiar with such vehicles.

[Offender90]

No hurry to get one. It is only going to be a weekend driver for playing, so I don't really n..e..e..d.. it at all (just ask my missus :()

Have been looking off and on for six months, but not a lot on the market, and whilst the 4 yellow ones for sale might have been mechanically OK the colour was a no go for me.

There is another in Victoria for $29K, but it has higher KMs, and the front and the back tyres do not match, which makes me think poorly of whoever would do that, so I have not enquired about that one.

hahaha... I know exactly what you mean, I don't really 'need' either of my Landies, but they're great fun to drive and tinker with. The 90 is my weekend play toy, and the 120 (affectionately known as 'The Faithful') is being set up as a touring rig.

As the only car I really 'need' is my daily driver (a 3 cylinder Daihatsu Charade) - neither of the Landies are currently on the road. The 90 is waiting for an engine transplant, and the 120 is getting turboed / intercooled, and then converted into a dual cab. It's a great way to get to know the cars mechanically, and I save a bundle on labour costs (:angel: ...so I keep telling myself). :p

Bojan

[Jeff]

Tell me more about the holes! What do you think was removed, and where from?

Did it look like a well cared for car, or one that had been "detailed" back to looking good?

Thanks for the info.

There were holes where a roof console had been and the interior had a lot of dust, even though it looked like they had cleaned it. Sorry didn't look much more I was after a 110, was just humouring my daughter, who wanted a yellow one anyway.

Jeff

:rocket:

[RuaTD5]

Hey Spudboy,

As you are looking interstate I passed a car yard in St. Leonards (Sydney) yesterday that has a green 90 extreme for sale @ $29k. Looks stock. The car yard use to be an Alfa dealership but now a car yard by the name of 'Prestige Motors'.

Don't know much about Defenders but if you are interested there might be somebody on here that could check it out for you.

[abaddonxi]

I think that'd be these guys, no Defender listed yet.

Sydney Prestige Cars – Used Alfa Romeo, Audi, BMW, Lexus, Mercedes-Benz (http://www.sydneycityprestige.com.au/default.htm)

[RuaTD5]

Thought the same when I passed the yard and went to the same website. The yard is only open 3-4 weeks.

Anyway I work in St Leonards so if anybody wants me to check out it's year, KM's etc let me know.

[RuaTD5]

Car yard is 'Prestige Direct'. The 90 can be seen on their website and Carsales.com.au

Prestige Direct (http://www.prestigedirect.com.au/)

[Scouse]

There is another in Victoria for $29K, but it has higher KMs, and the front and the back tyres do not match, which makes me think poorly of whoever would do that, so I have not enquired about that one.


Car yard is 'Prestige Direct'. The 90 can be seen on their website and Carsales.com.au

Prestige Direct (http://www.prestigedirect.com.au/)Hmm, same car??
You don't see too many with mismatched tyres.

[Offender90]

In comparison to the other 90, this one is much better value. There's about 20k kms difference in them and $11k in price :eek:.

In terms of extras, this one is missing the winch, bar, CB, spots and towbar, but comes with headlight protectors (well, on 3 out of 4 corners anyway) and wingtop chequered plate protectors (a must have IMHO). Winch and bar will cost you ~$2800 new, plus CB and spots andother $500.

Although I'm sure it's been extensively detailed, this one looks pristine inside and out. You now have a choice... and bargaining power - If you still prefer the other one, you can negotiate the price right down on the basis of this one.

Neither comes with rear seats, but you should be able to pick up a good set of seats and belts for ~$800 if you want them.

Will be good to see another 90 join the ranks :)

Cheers

Bojan

[tomalophicon]

The car must be sold, the link doesn't work anymore.

[tomalophicon]

No hurry to get one. It is only going to be a weekend driver for playing, so I don't really n..e..e..d.. it at all (just ask my missus :()

Have been looking off and on for six months, but not a lot on the market, and whilst the 4 yellow ones for sale might have been mechanically OK the colour was a no go for me.

There is another in Victoria for $29K, but it has higher KMs, and the front and the back tyres do not match, which makes me think poorly of whoever would do that, so I have not enquired about that one.

I think it's sold now. Did you buy it?

[spudboy]

Yep - I made an offer, which they rejected as too low, and asked me to make another one.

I made the same offer again. They rejected it.

Would I make another offer they said? Yes I say - same as before. That is the maximum I am willing to pay for it....

Eventually they got the idea that I wasn't going to up my initial offer.

Anyway, conditional upon my inspection, it is sold!! Probably paid a couple of grand too much, but am hoping that I'll forget about that in a year or two.

Hope it's as tidy as they describe it :p