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Slunnie
23rd July 2009, 02:42 PM
I'm building a house at the moment and have to get door "furniture". I'm not quite sure how it's "furniture" but anyways.... It seems that a lot of front doors run deadlocking mechanisms on them. I'm not sure if I'm missing something, but why would I fit a dead lock to the front door, especially when no other door would be fitted with them? I'm not sure why I would want to stop someone getting out through the front door....

willem
23rd July 2009, 02:46 PM
I'm building a house at the moment and have to get door "furniture". I'm not quite sure how it's "furniture" but anyways.... It seems that a lot of front doors run deadlocking mechanisms on them. I'm not sure if I'm missing something, but why would I fit a dead lock to the front door, especially when no other door would be fitted with them? I'm not sure why I would want to stop someone getting out through the front door....

I think the idea is that it would make it hard for thieves to take anything big out of the house. It just makes it a bit harder to steal something.

The danger of deadlocks is that they can trap people inside the house. So you never use them when you go to sleep at night, because if there is a fire for instance you might want to get out in a hurry.

Willem

Slunnie
23rd July 2009, 03:02 PM
I think the idea is that it would make it hard for thieves to take anything big out of the house. It just makes it a bit harder to steal something.

The danger of deadlocks is that they can trap people inside the house. So you never use them when you go to sleep at night, because if there is a fire for instance you might want to get out in a hurry.

Willem
Thanks for this Willem. The other thing I can think of is to make it hard to kick a door through. Mind you this may not be the case where the unit is integrated with the normal door handle.

cartm58
23rd July 2009, 03:39 PM
deadlock aint a problem when they sledgehammer your hings

deadlock door easily opened that way

deadlock door more a house insurance premium risk reducer

if your building you should be looking at fitting deadlocks to all doors and windows where possible

also consider securing your man hole access as well

smoke detectors should be fitted and be hard wired into house electricial

light switches should be wired live from power box so they dont go out if your fuse box trips

trip switch all power circuits and have kill switch in fuse box

spudboy
23rd July 2009, 07:45 PM
Deadlock on the front door is a good idea if there is a panel of glass next to the door. Otherwise it is easy to smash the glass, reach in and just turn the door lock to get in.

At least with a deadlock they still have to smash the front door etc or crawl through a window.

tony
23rd July 2009, 07:54 PM
If your still in the bulding stage something I would concider if I was doing it now would be to use steel door jams insted of wood bit more xxxxx but a lot better than timber also I'd do the rear as well

T

dobbo
23rd July 2009, 07:59 PM
Make sure the locks all run the same barrel, that way the front key is also the back key.

What is the purpose of doing the manhole? Surely if their going through the roof they can just drop through the ceiling?

gwebb
23rd July 2009, 08:17 PM
The idea of deadlocks is to make the baskets who broke into your house exit the same way they got in. If they broke a window its bloody hard to get a plasma out!!!
The problem with deadlocks is you need to leave a key in the lock on the inside when you are at home so you can easily open the door in case of fire. Have a look at the Gainsborough range of Trilocks, as this type of system allows the door to remain locked from the outside but lets you easily open from the inside in case of fire. When you use the key to lock the door upon leaving of a morning it " deadlocks" the door in the normal manner. Worth a look as there are a number of locking systems around nowadays.

tony
23rd July 2009, 08:17 PM
must av it the button twice

stevo
23rd July 2009, 08:33 PM
years ago moved into a new block of units was due to go home for xmas so had some dead locks fitted it was a rental and had to pay out of my own pocket.

over xmas every unit was broken into and the four units with dead locks were left alone, should have taken them out of the door when I moved out

Slunnie
23rd July 2009, 08:54 PM
Thanks for this all, now it makes a lot more sense as to why, and also that everything has to be deadlocked, not just the front door. It also sounds like the door from the house into the garage should be deadlocked also as the garage door can be exited.


The idea of deadlocks is to make the baskets who broke into your house exit the same way they got in. If they broke a window its bloody hard to get a plasma out!!!
The problem with deadlocks is you need to leave a key in the lock on the inside when you are at home so you can easily open the door in case of fire. Have a look at the Gainsborough range of Trilocks, as this type of system allows the door to remain locked from the outside but lets you easily open from the inside in case of fire. When you use the key to lock the door upon leaving of a morning it " deadlocks" the door in the normal manner. Worth a look as there are a number of locking systems around nowadays.
I have been looking at the Gainsborough range for the external doors. The Trilock looks the goods, except they are not really elegant enough for a set of double french doors which are the front door. I'm looking at the "first impressions" set from the Stronghold set. That ones got a dead bolt in it though rather than the trilock system.

malsgoing130
24th July 2009, 02:43 PM
insurance co's give a discount if dead locks and window locks are fitted to all doors and windows. People seem to forget that a front door is generally 42mm solid timber of some discription and right near by is a lovely masiveplate glass window of at best 6mm glass.
If the buggers want to get in they will, its more for your own piece of mind.
Good luck with the new home.
Mal