Easy way for QLD Gov to make money.

[juddy]

Introduce a MOT system, like they have in the UK, every car over 3 years needs to be tested at, a approved garage, not only will this bring in money for the cashed strapped Gove, but more to the point it makes sure theres safer cars on the roads. No more piles of rubbish running around with missing bumpers, lights, etc etc.......

[Sprint]

i have it on pretty good authority that it wont happen..... too many dodgy roadworthy inspectors now

[Newbs-IIA]

NO NO NO DISLIKE DISLIKE DISLIKE :o :o :o

sorry but I would rather pay my high rego prices rather than getting my car inspected. Not worried about the Kingswood passing (except emmisions) but i dunno about my Series IIA....

It's all well and good for the people with rather new cars but not very fair to us people with rattly old landrovers which have average breaks at the best of times, not to mention the oil leaks :(

[Newbs-IIA]

i have it on pretty good authority that it wont happen..... too many dodgy roadworthy inspectors now
I'll have to agree with that :D

[juddy]

I understand the points about older cars etc, but what about all those that have bold tyers, no brakes, chuck out black smoke, these are dangerous, not only to those idiots who drive them, but also the rest of us.

These MOT test, work in the rest of the world.....

Or why not put more speed cameras on the motoways, loads a money there....

[feral]

Unroadworthy vehicles are not a significant factor in the injuries & fatalities of vehicle accidents.

This have been pointed out many times by the Victorian Government when the cry from the motoring groups i.e. VACC......ask for compulsory roadworthy tests.

Like it has been stated...its just another way of ripping cash out of your pocket.

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Lyndon

Discovery Td5....Enjoy responsibly

[frantic]

In NSW the cars only have to comply with the rules off the day they where built , not any new rules/ emision tests etc, so a 1960's SII would not need seat belts and the braking test would be far more lenient than that off a 2000-6 defender( hardest thing is to stop in a straight line). It only fail's those poorly maintained cars and after a few inspection place's get prosecuted/sued after prangs for OK'ing bald tyred crapola with no brakes, lights and indicators the rest all test farly evenly.

[cucinadio]

NO NO NO DISLIKE DISLIKE DISLIKE :o :o :o

sorry but I would rather pay my high rego prices rather than getting my car inspected. Not worried about the Kingswood passing (except emmisions) but i dunno about my Series IIA....

It's all well and good for the people with rather new cars but not very fair to us people with rattly old landrovers which have average breaks at the best of times, not to mention the oil leaks :(


x100

[Psimpson7]

Why do you think it would make money for the goverment?

The cost in the UK covers the time of the garage to do the test.

[juddy]

I think its a better way to put money back in the system.

[juddy]

But it cant but help>>>>>

I do agree to some point the state of driving here is appauling, speed is not the main factor the crashes here, its just people cant drive....


Unroadworthy vehicles are not a significant factor in the injuries & fatalities of vehicle accidents.

This have been pointed out many times by the Victorian Government when the cry from the motoring groups i.e. VACC......ask for compulsory roadworthy tests.

Like it has been stated...its just another way of ripping cash out of your pocket.

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Lyndon

Discovery Td5....Enjoy responsibly

[Blknight.aus]

In NSW the cars only have to comply with the rules off the day they where built , not any new rules/ emision tests etc, so a 1960's SII would not need seat belts and the braking test would be far more lenient than that off a 2000-6 defender( hardest thing is to stop in a straight line). It only fail's those poorly maintained cars and after a few inspection place's get prosecuted/sued after prangs for OK'ing bald tyred crapola with no brakes, lights and indicators the rest all test farly evenly.

thats Australia wide and until they change the rules for the application of ADR's its not going to change.

the greenies tried it on to get the ADR's bought up to speed for emission control and it never even got past the lower house.

[juddy]

oh and more police helicopters, with snipers on board, to shoot the heads, ups sorry tyre's of joy riders.....

[feral]

Or you can do it this way........


Drunk driver sentenced to death | World Breaking News | News.com.au (http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25830166-23109,00.html)


A DRUNK driver who killed four people while fleeing a car accident has become the first driver in China to be sentenced to death for endangering public safety, state press reported.


They don't muck 'round in China.

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Lyndon

Discovery Td5....Enjoy responsibly

[ramblingboy42]

doesn't the govt make enough money already?

[Sly]

No no no no no no no no , if you want to live in a nanny state move to the uk .

[Sprint]

Introduce a MOT system, like they have in the UK, every car over 3 years needs to be tested at, a approved garage, not only will this bring in money for the cashed strapped Gove, but more to the point it makes sure theres safer cars on the roads. No more piles of rubbish running around with missing bumpers, lights, etc etc.......

I do agree to some point the state of driving here is appauling, speed is not the main factor the crashes here, its just people cant drive....
wtf? dont you like it here?

I think its a better way to put money back in the system.
oh...... i get it now, you're Ms Bligh's idiot twin brother, right?

Queensland...... love it or LEAVE

:angrylock:

[RobHay]

Introduce a MOT system, like they have in the UK, every car over 3 years needs to be tested at, a approved garage, not only will this bring in money for the cashed strapped Gove, but more to the point it makes sure theres safer cars on the roads. No more piles of rubbish running around with missing bumpers, lights, etc etc.......

Juddy! Go outside NOW! Go on ....up you get and outside........now punish yourself severely.....next...into the bathroom take hold of the soap.......wet it....get a good froth up....that's right....now open your mouth............:p

[Sprint]

i would ask why the people should have to suffer for a Labor governments financial incompetence, but its because some people were stupid enough to vote labor into government on both state and federal levels.....

i still maintain that a democracy has many inherant flaws that harm its voting population

BLKNIGHT.AUS FOR DICTATOR!!!!!!

[Newbs-IIA]

i would ask why the people should have to suffer for a Labor governments financial incompetence, but its because some people were stupid enough to vote labor into government on both state and federal levels.....

i still maintain that a democracy has many inherant flaws that harm its voting population

BLKNIGHT.AUS FOR DICTATOR!!!!!!
x2 :D

[JDNSW]

As feral says, the two most populous states, Vic & NSW, differ in that NSW has these tests and Vic does not. The difference in accident rates over the years is pretty small, and almost always better in Victoria. This of course has nothing to do with the lack of annual tests, but has a lot to do with the better roads.

The fact is that not only are very few accidents due to vehicle defects, but the ones that are due to these defects are most commonly due to tyre defects, that can and do develop well within the inspection interval.

The annual tests in NSW, in my view, make no significant contribution to road safety but do keep a lot of mechanics in bread and butter (not only in doing the tests, but in fixing problkems uncovered).

John

[scarry]

The tyre guys would be happy,whether second hand or new.

Anyone had a look at the front tyres on cars at the local shopping centre?,most wouldnt pass any test at all....

[juddy]

I like that, iam cured..........




Juddy! Go outside NOW! Go on ....up you get and outside........now punish yourself severely.....next...into the bathroom take hold of the soap.......wet it....get a good froth up....that's right....now open your mouth............:p

[juddy]

Fine them fine them all...... then dump there piles of junk into the sea, create a reef...



The tyre guys would be happy,whether second hand or new.

Anyone had a look at the front tyres on cars at the local shopping centre?,most wouldnt pass any test at all....

[Armadillo]

Queensland government already knows how to make easy money....treat us like barrel boys!!!!

[George130]

Annual inspections don't work.
You get 3 types of workshops, 1 who make up defects hoping to get paid to fix them, 2 the mechanics who would pass anything and then those who are fair and honest.

[mark2]

Introduce a MOT system, like they have in the UK, every car over 3 years needs to be tested at, a approved garage, not only will this bring in money for the cashed strapped Gove, but more to the point it makes sure theres safer cars on the roads. No more piles of rubbish running around with missing bumpers, lights, etc etc.......

I cant believe someone who call himself a land rover owner enthusiast would even propose this.:no2:

[Mick-Kelly]

The best way for Queensland to have a goverment that starts making money is to STOP VOTING FOR LABOUR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bigbjorn]

When I was selling used vehicles I never had any trouble in either NSW or Qld. getting a certificate sight unseen. Plenty of inspection stations had cozy arrangements with the motor trade. Phone up your tame inspector with the numbers, go around and pick up the paper, pay the fee and hand over a carton. Occasionally someone got caught and got fined and lost their inspection licence. As JD says, there were inspectors who were in it for the money, others who tried to generate work by finding non-existent faults, others who were total nit-pickers, and ones who were reasonable.

If there is to be government enforcement of vehicle fitness standrads, I think the system they used in Qld. for a time would work better. Set up a random inspection station on a section of busy road in a place where drivers can not see the setup on approach and can not turn away. Police and transport inspectors in attendance, licences, registration, sobriety, and vehicle fitness all done in one stop. Fines issued, recalcitrant fine and warrant evaders arrested, defect notices issued and really bad vehicles impounded on the spot & not to be driven away.

[whyatts]

sounds like a good thing. People need to be forced to look after there cars... Would make the roads a lot safer!

[BigJon]

... Would make the roads a lot safer!


All available statistics don't back up your statement.

[juddy]

This too is a good idea...




When I was selling used vehicles I never had any trouble in either NSW or Qld. getting a certificate sight unseen. Plenty of inspection stations had cozy arrangements with the motor trade. Phone up your tame inspector with the numbers, go around and pick up the paper, pay the fee and hand over a carton. Occasionally someone got caught and got fined and lost their inspection licence. As JD says, there were inspectors who were in it for the money, others who tried to generate work by finding non-existent faults, others who were total nit-pickers, and ones who were reasonable.

If there is to be government enforcement of vehicle fitness standrads, I think the system they used in Qld. for a time would work better. Set up a random inspection station on a section of busy road in a place where drivers can not see the setup on approach and can not turn away. Police and transport inspectors in attendance, licences, registration, sobriety, and vehicle fitness all done in one stop. Fines issued, recalcitrant fine and warrant evaders arrested, defect notices issued and really bad vehicles impounded on the spot & not to be driven away.

[juddy]

That maybe the case, but it anythings better than nothing.... I do see what some of you are thinking about getting ripped off at bogus inspection stations, that iam sure still goes on in the uk, theres good and bad ones, plus if they allowed the garage who does your servicing to carry out inspections too, then i cant see that being a bad thing. I sure MR Automotive would be fair????




All available statistics don't back up your statement.

[GRIFF]

works in NZ older cars get tested every 6 mouths for brakes, tires, rust, etc
see link Warrant of fitness inspections (http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/vehicle-ownership/warrant.html)

I think the government is worried about, is half of the cars over 10 years would be put off the road and cause a political storm.