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Loaded
26th July 2009, 06:16 PM
I have upgraded my desk top computer today to an apple Imac.
Im going to have a few questions over the next week, like how do you get the safari browser to open to a full screen?

Loaded
26th July 2009, 06:20 PM
Just worked that one out bottom right hand corner of page click and drag wider.
I still will need some help tomorrow with a few things.

Captain_Rightfoot
26th July 2009, 07:32 PM
No worries. :)

If you find yourself stuck have a think about the easy way to do things. Often that is the apple way.

I'm going to give you the very very short history here. The GUI as we know it was invented by XEROX PARC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PARC_(company)). They did a lot of work on the best and most logical way of doing things. They put a **lot** of work into this and did a **really** good job. Apple acquired this technology and that's what you see today. Microsoft has only been able to copy this technology. To avoid copyright infringement they have had to change things away from the optimum.

Safari will by default set it's maximum size to the size of the page you're looking at. Why would you want the window bigger?

Grover-98
26th July 2009, 07:46 PM
You will get use to it then wonder why you had a PC for so long :)

Loaded
27th July 2009, 05:54 PM
You will get use to it then wonder why you had a PC for so long :)

I love it and have only used it for about 4 Hrs.
I had a problem with the printer but a quick call to apple and solved, other than that is looks quite simple.
I still dont know what the use is for the side buttons on the mouse, it just seems to highlight the page your on and I dont know what that is.

Also I need to do some checking on what cool programs or apps are available for the Imac.

Loaded
27th July 2009, 06:21 PM
Worked out the side buttons .
Im now stumped on how to copy and paste.

dmdigital
27th July 2009, 06:45 PM
Copy - Command C
Paste - Command V
Cut - Command X
Undo - Command Z

Hand one is Shutdown - Control Option Command Eject

Turtle61
27th July 2009, 09:20 PM
Worked out the side buttons .
Im now stumped on how to copy and paste.

All buttons on the Apple mouse are customisable to a degree. In System preferences -> Keyboard and Mouse under the Mouse tab you'll find a drop-down menu for all of the 4 mouse buttons.

Personally I have:
Left - primary
Right - secondary (as per PC 'right-click')
Scroll ball (it is a button as well) - activates Dashboard
Side buttons - Expose (all windows)

It's all a personal choice.

Since you're migrating from the other side, what PC have under 'control' + something, Apple has the 'Command' + something giving you a total of 4 different modifier key combinations. This may, or may not be useful to you but once you get the hang of the operating system you'll start to create your own keyboard shortcuts.
Speaking of short cuts, in System preferences -> Keyboard and Mouse there is a Keyboard Shortcuts tab. Have a look at these as some are very useful to know.

Grover-98
27th July 2009, 09:26 PM
Worked out the side buttons .
Im now stumped on how to copy and paste.

As mentioned before or you can still just highlight it then select copy then right click and paste the same as on the PC

Captain_Rightfoot
28th July 2009, 05:58 AM
As mentioned before or you can still just highlight it then select copy then right click and paste the same as on the PC

Well... technically Apple had a GUI with copy and paste some time before MS ... so the PC is actually just like the Mac. :eek: :D :wasntme:

Hay Ewe
28th July 2009, 07:03 AM
We have one at home but only use it for charging my ipod and looking at pictures - it was a gift :)

I do a lot of work on excel for my job and there are real differences there, mostly short cuts it seems

I think this is because Microsoft developed excel and then sold it with some parts 'missing' to apple

on the whole, its good

Hay Ewe

Scallops
28th July 2009, 07:17 AM
We have one at home but only use it for charging my ipod and looking at pictures - it was a gift :)

I do a lot of work on excel for my job and there are real differences there, mostly short cuts it seems

I think this is because Microsoft developed excel and then sold it with some parts 'missing' to apple

on the whole, its good

Hay Ewe

G'day Hay,

I have been using some complex excel spreadsheets at home on my iMac too - files from work. I have the latest Mac Office, so maybe that is why, but I hadn't found any functionality differences - what specifically did you find missing in your Mac version? :)

Loaded
28th July 2009, 06:22 PM
G'day Hay,

I have been using some complex excel spreadsheets at home on my iMac too - files from work. I have the latest Mac Office, so maybe that is why, but I hadn't found any functionality differences - what specifically did you find missing in your Mac version? :)

I also have the latest Mac office and have found it more usefull with handy quick pop up short cuts and functunly better than my old PC's
Its amasing how all the little different thinks about the Mac I find make for a far better PC than the ussual PC set up I used to run.
I wish I had found Apple sooner, it took me to have an I Phone to trust the system.

inside
28th July 2009, 11:19 PM
The truth is that if you have a Windows user who uses a lot of functionality in Excel the Mac version begins to show its short comings. No VBA support is one of the deal breakers for many. But there's also lots of good things like the fabulous palette, why they don't use this on Windows amazes me.

Captain_Rightfoot
29th July 2009, 06:16 AM
Look... I'm reluctant to mention this... but if you **really** had to have exactly the same excel that you have a work because you wanted the one with VBA and all the vulnerabilities that go with that, then you could run excel in a windows VM. It's not hard to do, and works exceptionally well. With this type of system it is almost impossible to tell that an app is actually running on windows because it can run in translucent mode. Excel or any other PC app appears just like a mac app and you stay within OS X.

It just shows that it's very difficult to find something from the pc world that can't be accommodated if it's a deal breaker. You'd still be better off than running a pc because when windows rolls itself up in a ball you just delete the vm and reinstall while the mac world hums along unaffected. :)

Hay Ewe
29th July 2009, 07:06 AM
I posted a reply to the difficulties that I was having using Excel on a mac, but it ended up on another thread :confused:

anyway, I foudn that it missed various short cuts, like f4 to ut teh 4 into a formula so it always referenced that cell. I also had a stack of macros (VB) that are attached to buttons.

I just found it a bit harder to use, I was goign to do some work at home but didnt happen and I didnt use it that much. as I mentioned ealier, it was a gift and so not sure what version of excel it has and I didnt use it enough to work my way through them.

When I do use it, its great, no complaints

I shall look at the attachement posted above - thanks for that

Hay Ewe

disco2hse
29th July 2009, 07:59 AM
Yes, Office 2008 did not include VB support. Previous versions allowed you to play VB scripts inside the file.

Bad mistake on MS's part. Nothing to do with Apple.

Alan

Loaded
30th July 2009, 05:29 PM
I posted a reply to the difficulties that I was having using Excel on a mac, but it ended up on another thread :confused:

anyway, I foudn that it missed various short cuts, like f4 to ut teh 4 into a formula so it always referenced that cell. I also had a stack of macros (VB) that are attached to buttons.

I just found it a bit harder to use, I was goign to do some work at home but didnt happen and I didnt use it that much. as I mentioned ealier, it was a gift and so not sure what version of excel it has and I didnt use it enough to work my way through them.

When I do use it, its great, no complaints

I shall look at the attachement posted above - thanks for that

Hay Ewe
As long as you have the right toolbars selected I find the Mac version on Excel the same to use as the PC version though you do get more short cuts with the Mac.