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matt39788
27th July 2009, 07:26 PM
Hi, after the mineral springs meet up in Blackwood over the weekend I have come to one conclusion that has always had me in doubt was that cross axle lockers are the single best offroad upgrade you can make regarless of tyres, suspension or anything else. Mudsloth took 20 landys out on a small trip around blackwood in the afternoon and one small rocky wet hill put a stop to most of the crew. We had a selection of Discos, defenders, rangies and countys most of us had a go at the hill and regardless of the what tyres and no amount of right foot would the unlocked landys make it to the top even those with traction control did make it further, but not to the top either.
I had a rear locker in and did the hill without to much trouble and will be getting a front one in soon. Being able to attack hills with alot less speed will just make everything last that bit longer, and save them nice shiny bullbars on D2's

Jock The Rock
27th July 2009, 07:31 PM
I'd have to agree mate

They are fantastic, I only have a rear as well but they make a difference everywhere.

I usually run with the compressor up to pressure all the time now

I went shooting on Friday night and we were in some muddy ruts, and starting to go down. I booted it, flicked the switch and I felt the difference once it had engaged :)

The other instance was on Sunday doing a few rocky climbs. Someone did get a stockers Courier through, but with lots of right boot, a few bangs and some wheel placement

On the same climb I just flicked the switch and went straight up :p can't wait for the front when I get the money

953
27th July 2009, 08:40 PM
Hi Matt,
I loved my lockers to but, chops made it to the top first attempt in his D1 no locker:twisted:, or was he just having a lend of us. Go figure!
Cheers Dean.

Stue 3 doors down
27th July 2009, 08:53 PM
I too have a rear locker and made it to the top on my 10 or so attempt but my mistake was inexperience and not dropping air pressure to 20psi after the first 5 or so goes at the hill. I couldnt get up until I dropped air down then I made it a bit further each time and the car felt better each time and man was I happy no I was HAPPY:D and now I want a front locker and agree about the tyres as I have half worn BFG muds.
Another thing that I found out was front recovery points or rather that lack of good ones so this is on my plan now too.

rangieman
27th July 2009, 09:00 PM
Hi, after the mineral springs meet up in Blackwood over the weekend I have come to one conclusion that has always had me in doubt was that cross axle lockers are the single best offroad upgrade you can make regarless of tyres, suspension or anything else. Mudsloth took 20 landys out on a small trip around blackwood in the afternoon and one small rocky wet hill put a stop to most of the crew. We had a selection of Discos, defenders, rangies and countys most of us had a go at the hill and regardless of the what tyres and no amount of right foot would the unlocked landys make it to the top even those with traction control did make it further, but not to the top either.
I had a rear locker in and did the hill without to much trouble and will be getting a front one in soon. Being able to attack hills with alot less speed will just make everything last that bit longer, and save them nice shiny bullbars on D2's
I know what your saying as i have had a car with lockers but in saying that you cant just say the locker helped i watched chops go up that hill first attempt no lockers v8 auto s1 disco:cool:
There is alot of variants invovled unless you have 2 excact cars tyres and you drive them the same way, suspension setups and drive the exact line which is hard to do,
Pitty i didnt get a go at that hill with the TC :angrylock:

matt39788
27th July 2009, 09:25 PM
ahhh I got my info a bit wrong then i thought chops had lockers but he was just a good driver, but that county ute with twin lockers and all terrain tyres made that hill look like easy, compared to an unlocked defender with directional mud tyres.

Grover-98
27th July 2009, 09:27 PM
There is alot of variants invovled unless you have 2 excact cars tyres and you drive them the same way, suspension setups and drive the exact line which is hard to do

The ARB guys have a Toy with lockers which they drive on their ramps to show how they work so thats a good example :)

They drive it first with no lockers engaged then again with both on and makes an amazing difference :)

DeeJay
27th July 2009, 09:28 PM
I mentioned to someone on the day that a front locker can make a difference most of the time but in some situations- not many- you are better off not using it. Also bear in mind your steering won't co-operate with it locked in. At least with one fitted you can experiment.
Geez that blue Landie tray made that hill look easy!!!:angel:

rangieman
27th July 2009, 09:32 PM
The ARB guys have a Toy with lockers which they drive on their ramps to show how they work so thats a good example :)

They drive it first with no lockers engaged then again with both on and makes an amazing difference :)
Yes ive seen the ramp and cars on the ramp in action but the situation im talking about is not a ramp and different lines and angles could be driven unlike the arb ramp;)

Grover-98
27th July 2009, 09:37 PM
Yes ive seen the ramp and cars on the ramp in action but the situation im talking about is not a ramp and different lines and angles could be driven unlike the arb ramp;)

Yes i agree. I feel its best to learn without lockers! as to get better line picking abilities so if your locker were to ever fail you :)

rather then be a credit 4x4er

Mudsloth
27th July 2009, 09:46 PM
I mentioned to someone on the day that a front locker can make a difference most of the time but in some situations- not many- you are better off not using it. Also bear in mind your steering won't co-operate with it locked in. At least with one fitted you can experiment.
Geez that blue Landie tray made that hill look easy!!!:angel:

Mr 350 bloody Chev :twisted: I've decided im gonna shoehorn the 351 cleveland out of my f100 into the Disco (I wish ), your vehicle is bloody sweet. When i've got my diff locks on the steering is very heavy but I only notice it when i forget to turn them off after getting through whatever mess i got myself into. Bear in mind though, before i got the 37s and only had 33s I was gettin hung up in the middle of the vehicle, Diff locks did not help. They will definately get you out of most situations but keep in mind you they won't turn you into a tank. You need 4 inches of lift and 37 inch muddies for that:twisted:

carjunkieanon
27th July 2009, 11:24 PM
The ARB guys have a Toy with lockers which they drive on their ramps to show how they work so thats a good example :)

They drive it first with no lockers engaged then again with both on and makes an amazing difference :)

yeah, but the toyota doesn't AKAIK have ETC - a defender should be able to do the ramps without lockers.

Toyota doesn't equal a defender

Bushie
28th July 2009, 08:43 AM
yeah, but the toyota doesn't AKAIK have ETC - a defender should be able to do the ramps without lockers.

Toyota doesn't equal a defender


Hmmm my Defender doesn't have ETC either ;);)

What's a locker cost, fitted into a salisbury now ??



Martyn

Chops
28th July 2009, 11:43 AM
Hi Matt,
I loved my lockers to but, chops made it to the top first attempt in his D1 no locker:twisted:, or was he just having a lend of us. Go figure!
Cheers Dean.

I promise, I have no lockers,,,a rear one is high on my "to do" list though.

What I do have though,,, is some mighty fine tyres,,, M/T MTZ's, 31x10's on offset rims. I am finding these to be very good,,, :D

Adam and I are out that way again this weekend, so I get to try them some more,,, :p

"Coming" ???

Chops

Jock The Rock
28th July 2009, 07:47 PM
Hmmm my Defender doesn't have ETC either ;);)

What's a locker cost, fitted into a salisbury now ??



Martyn

From memory (2008 ARB Catalouge) yes I know thats not how you spell it :p

Roughly $1400

953
28th July 2009, 08:47 PM
I promise, I have no lockers,,,a rear one is high on my "to do" list though.

What I do have though,,, is some mighty fine tyres,,, M/T MTZ's, 31x10's on offset rims. I am finding these to be very good,,, :D

Adam and I are out that way again this weekend, so I get to try them some more,,, :p

"Coming" ???

Chops

Love to chops but, Im off to the SCG:(:D.
Im getting closer to buying another car now, I think, its driving me nuts:confused:.Looking forward to getting back on those tracks, IN THE DRIVING SEAT:D.
Cheers Dean.

Rad97
28th July 2009, 09:23 PM
I too have lockers and go places others with lift kits and m/t tyres cant go,
I did attend this meeting but too know the enjoyment of being able to crawl around easily while others are screaming there cars and not making the attemp or just making it.
I went camping a while ago with a mate with a 6 inch lifted patrol GQ mud tyres and a mate in a 2005 defender td5 2 inch lift bfg goodies and me in a disco 1 tdi I went places they did not even try and go let alone get through places I breezed through the only thing is they wanted me to not use them, I said why would I not use them I have them not my fault you do not have them fitted on your vehicles so I continued to take it easy around the 4x4 park.

Mudsloth
28th July 2009, 09:32 PM
I too have lockers and go places others with lift kits and m/t tyres cant go,
I did attend this meeting but too know the enjoyment of being able to crawl around easily while others are screaming there cars and not making the attemp or just making it.
I went camping a while ago with a mate with a 6 inch lifted patrol GQ mud tyres and a mate in a 2005 defender td5 2 inch lift bfg goodies and me in a disco 1 tdi I went places they did not even try and go let alone get through places I breezed through the only thing is they wanted me to not use them, I said why would I not use them I have them not my fault you do not have them fitted on your vehicles so I continued to take it easy around the 4x4 park.

My mates always call me a cheat, screw em, they break more stuff than me and i've got about an hour of footage of me pulling em out of up stuff. It'll make the coolest youtube video ever......