Who’s been ordered to moved on when parked

[drivesafe]

A number of posters on the Kombi site have posted that they have been ordered to move on after parking beside the road to get some sleep.

I know this is a NO NO in Byron Bay but I have never had it happen to me and over thirty plus years, I’ve stopped hundreds of times, day and night in NSW, VIC and QLD.

Has anyone here ever had any problems?

[Blknight.aus]

yep, I just flashed my HC liscence and stated I was complying with the mandated 8 hour break as laid down by the heavy transport industry and that moving on was contrary to the guiding regulations, Can I go back to sleep now?

[Bytemrk]

Well it's obvious Tim...

Why would they let a Kombi take up space that would be used by a better class of vehicle. :p

Mark :wasntme:

[V8Ian]

Yep, over 30years ago in Coolangatta. Threatened with being charged with vagrancy:mad:

[p38arover]

A number of posters on the Kombi site have posted that they have been ordered to move on after parking beside the road to get some sleep.

Ordered on by whom? Police or Council Rangers?

[Lotz-A-Landies]

I was parked in a suburban main road on a Sunday morning within the conditions displayed on the signs. About an hour after I parked some City of Sydney Rangers came along and clamped no standing signs over the parking signs, then told me if I left my car there it would be booked. They did book the cars on either side of me.

How can this be acceptable, there were no "Special Event" signs anywhere. So if I were legally parked when I arrived and remained there under the conditions displayed at the time of arrival, then the Council shouldn't have a leg to stand on. If it were to be some sort of special event on Sunday the no standing Sunday should have been up on Saturday evening. :mad: :mad:

So sort of like being moved on!

[alien]

Tried to park out side a cool store in Sydney during the olimpic games.
Told by part time cop(security) that I could not park there as to close to games media centre.
After a small discusion I sleept 100mt. up the road.(just past his area).
When I woke up there where 5 trucks there;).
Ask the part timer what's the go, well...
His words "They said **** you, shut the door and crawled in the back of their trucks."
Apperantly the army had to walk the snifer dogs past every hour.

Next trip 4 days latter, parking allowed:D

[**Discovery300Tdi**]

So what ever happened to the saying "A 5min power nap can save lives" and all those other TAC ad's saying that if you are tired to pull over and have a rest????

i know if i'm tired and i have the family in the car i will pull over some where safe and have a snooze.

[rovercare]

A simple, nice, polite, get ****ed should suffice:)

Seriously, if your out of harms way, there is no issue

[p38arover]

A simple, nice, polite, get ****ed should suffice:)

Seriously, if your out of harms way, there is no issue

A lot of NSW councils have parking restrictions at beachside parking areas to stop people camping overnight.

[rovercare]

A lot of NSW councils have parking restrictions at beachside parking areas to stop people camping overnight.

Can't say I've experienced any of NSW beachside parking to be honest, but I'm pretty sure my response would be much the same:)

[p38arover]

Can't say I've experienced any of NSW beachside parking to be honest, but I'm pretty sure my response would be much the same:)

And you'd cop a fine.

[87County]

Obviously it pays to be circumspect (ie. use your noggin) when staying at the Roadside Rydges or the Highway Hilton.

[rovercare]

And you'd cop a fine.

And it'd go with the rest........unpaid;)

[p38arover]

And it'd go with the rest........unpaid;)

Can't do that in this State. Well, you can, but you'd soon find your licence and registration had been cancelled.

[rovercare]

Can't do that in this State. Well, you can, but you'd soon find your licence and registration had been cancelled.

They've been threatening that here in Vic, but not the case yet, also depends on which courts, a fine from the local laws won't see either of those happen, those fines don;t get passed on to the Sheriff;)

[miky]

I think this will vary from state to state and even by different councils.
Usually the sticker licker will be a local council employee not police.
If you don't pay it gets even trickier.
Example... From a friend who used to work with a large Adelaide council.
If you had SA rego they would take you to court since there is a reasonable chance that you would then do something about it. If from interstate they would put it in the too hard basket.
That said, there are thousands of $ of unpaid fines simply because they cannot get people to court.

All of that aside. Some simple common sense should apply. If you park in a carpark near a beach in a city for the night and put your deckchairs and bbq out and awning up then you will most probably get a visit from your friendly sticker licker or even the police who will tell you to move on.

As for parking within the city area, I think that is just asking for trouble.

[drivesafe]

Can't do that in this State. Well, you can, but you'd soon find your licence and registration had been cancelled.

Unfortunately, this does not stop unlicensed A'holes driving unregistered vehicles.

EXCEPT in WA, I believe they have just introduced a system where if your caught unlicensed and/or in an unregistered vehicle, the vehicle is confiscated and you can only get it back once a $1,000 fine is paid.

It’s not an end all but it’s a good start.

[p38arover]

They've been threatening that here in Vic, but not the case yet, also depends on which courts, a fine from the local laws won't see either of those happen, those fines don;t get passed on to the Sheriff;)

Council fines all go to the State Debt Recovery Office.





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[THE BOOGER]

Your right Ron in NSW we have the toughtest fine enforcement (states broke remember) know a truck driver had his lic and rego cancelled because his ex didnt pay a fine for a dog she had as it was registered to him. If you read the signs in alot of rest stops they say no camping Im am told that rangers take that to mean if you are sleeping then you are camping:o Isnt that what rest areas are for:confused:

[clean32]

many a time i have stopped for a bit of a sleep and quite a few time the cops have stopped to see if i am ok or what the story is. one time the cops said " not the best place to stop, so he jumped in and drive me 30 mints up the road with his mate following. good guys, but that was Adelaide to the springs

[Sprint]

doesnt happen around here often enough i think..... get dozens of grey nomands parking up under the bridge (CCCCC'ers will know the bridge on the main road out of Emerald heading to rockhampton) every bloody night cos theyre too cheap to go tot he local caravan park

occasionally the local ratbag brigade go down there armed with a carton or two of eggs.....

[87County]

doesnt happen around here often enough i think..... get dozens of grey nomands parking up under the bridge (CCCCC'ers will know the bridge on the main road out of Emerald heading to rockhampton) every bloody night cos theyre too cheap to go tot he local caravan park

occasionally the local ratbag brigade go down there armed with a carton or two of eggs.....

:D

hence my earlier comment re using one's noggin

[DiscoStew]

doesnt happen around here often enough i think..... get dozens of grey nomands parking up under the bridge (CCCCC'ers will know the bridge on the main road out of Emerald heading to rockhampton) every bloody night cos theyre too cheap to go tot he local caravan park

occasionally the local ratbag brigade go down there armed with a carton or two of eggs.....

From memory there is a sign stating that you can can stay for 22 hours. We found it in the camping uide that everyone seems to use.

Yes there were a few locals who hurled abuse as they drove past but I am not sure what their problem is.

And we didn't stay there cause we are cheap, we arrived past 9pm and the caravan park we passed was closed. And what is wrong being with being cheap anyway????

BTW I don't recommend it if you want a good nights sleep, there are plenty of trucks and trains through the night

[HangOver]

I got moved on years back up in cairns.
It was just the local rangers though, "all they said was you can't camp here"
We moved a few hundered meters to another street.

[drivesafe]

While pulling off to the side of the road in a Range Rover probably doesn’t have quite the same ambience as it would in a Kombi, as posted, I’ve done it hundreds of times and in some not so inviting locations and in over 30 years of doing it in all sorts of vehicles, I’ve never had a problem.



And we didn't stay there cause we are cheap, we arrived past 9pm and the caravan park we passed was closed. And what is wrong being with being cheap anyway????

BTW I don't recommend it if you want a good nights sleep, there are plenty of trucks and trains through the night
I usually avoid many of the rest areas for this reason and not just that there is plenty of road noise from trucks and other vehicles arriving and leaving but also because I prefer to drive at night, and like Paul, by the time I want some sleep, it’s late and I don’t want to wake others in these rest areas while I settle in.

I usually look for a quite dark side street in some small town and sleep there.

[numpty]

Back in 1975, I was stopped in a park in Ballina and was accosted the next morning by a council ranger, who proceeded to admonish me for "camping" there, and took my details. Nothing ever became of it though.

I would prefer to stay well off the road, than frequent rest areas or sides of roads. And being "cheap", we rarely use caravan parks on our jaunts.;)

[austastar]

I believe the CMCA chaps have some paper work to present in such a situation.
The drill is to say 'Yes certainly, but I will need to establish some facts first', and then ask nicely for the officer to fill out the paper work.
ie name, rank and number of the officer, regulation number of the ordinance or code. Apparently most will back down and just request that you be out by morning.
Other tricks I have heard of are to have photocopies of various authoritative dictionaries with the definitions of 'camping' and argue the point. I wouldn't care to go that way.
We try and avoid being in places where we are likely to be 'moved on' i.e. use residential streets if in built up areas on the mainland.
Cemeteries are usually a quiet place, and haven't ever been bothered when sleeping overnight in one yet. Not the sort of place you get hoons either.
Beach fronts and lookouts are places that will attract trouble and patrols, as will parks, river side areas, or any where that may appeal to local youths.
Stealth camping near towns means thinking out side the square.
cheers

[disco_mitch]

i was parked in at the beach one day sleeping on the back seat in a soft top vitara(im only a little bloke) next thing i seen flashing lights hoped up and had a chat to the boy in blue and they asked me to move on and told me the lights were coz they thought there might have been a bit of kanoodaling goin on and didnt want to go up to the car without warning

[dobbo]

I haven't "parked" in years;)


I got a call from a mate telling me he had just been moved on one day, he was moved on by the police. Problem was both persons in the vehicle that were "having a mandatory rest" were apparently covered in chocolate body paint at that present time. They were escorted out of the area.