Door Tops.

[GS1967]

Evening all. So finally scored a pair of door tops. So my question is, where does one obtain glass to suit or is it best to get an auto glazier cut a new pair for each door. Also, are the glass sliders the same type as used in the cab back window? I`m of the opinion that at some point in time when the windowless hard top/safari roof was removed it was replaced with a single cab (curved corners/glass) & has sliding glass panels at rear. cheers & thanks gordon

[RobHay]

GS1967, I believe that the slider in the rear window of the cab cabin is a different size to that in the door.

I would have thought that it would have been relatively easy to obtain the glass, I have a complete set here for the doors and the front windscreen.

Try your wreckers and ebay.

I have noticed recently on the UK ebay site a set of aluminimum door tops which had both glass pieces sliding, that is the back one, which normally slides and the front section was sliding too. Might try this when I get to reburishing mine, thought it was a good idea.

[isuzurover]

Door top glass is toughened. It cannot be cut. A glass place could only supply laminated glass. The easiest and cheapest option would be 2nd hand glass from a rusty door top.

The stuff that makes them slide is called bailey channel. It was about $15 per door top last I bought it.

I have perentie door tops on my IIA. All aluminium, double sliding glass, worth every cent.

[JDNSW]

Large glass supply places (particularly in rural areas where there is demand for tractor replacements etc) will cut glass to size and send it off to get toughened and marked. But sit down before they tell you a price! Toughened glass is much preferred for the sliding windows, as it is more resistant to damage and the edges are exposed.

But as noted by others above, there is plenty of second hand glass around. Note however that shipping glass round the country gets expensive, so if possible get it from somewhere you can visit.

john

[101RRS]

Door top glass is toughened. It cannot be cut. A glass place could only supply laminated glass. The easiest and cheapest option would be 2nd hand glass from a rusty door top.


Not so - most glass places can provide flat toughened glass to the required size with the proper auto logo etched in.

I have done it with my vehicles.

Garry

[ezyrama]

Evening all. So finally scored a pair of door tops. So my question is, where does one obtain glass to suit or is it best to get an auto glazier cut a new pair for each door. Also, are the glass sliders the same type as used in the cab back window? I`m of the opinion that at some point in time when the windowless hard top/safari roof was removed it was replaced with a single cab (curved corners/glass) & has sliding glass panels at rear. cheers & thanks gordon

The Bailey channel can be sourced from Scotts old auto rubbers on
03 9563 3023. Talk to Scott Richmond.

Regards Ian

[isuzurover]

Not so - most glass places can provide flat toughened glass to the required size with the proper auto logo etched in.

I have done it with my vehicles.

Garry

Are you saying they can cut sheets of toughened glass to size??? Because I have been told by several glass places that that isn't possible.

What can be done, as JD says, is to cut the glass to size and then send it off to be toughened.

[GS1967]

Hi all. And no i`m not refering to the help you guys have pointed out re door top glass. I`ve been pointed in the direction of a top little s2 up Newcastle way.So much so i`ve had a mate put a wee deposit down for me. Currently near to completion,its had the body going over & totally resprayed in/out. Chassis completely stripped down & repainted in black Por15.Cab refurbed & painted.Updated seating.Good set of wheels & running a small block 8. And engineered. So now after these past few weeks of getting the 186/67gs & more recent,the swb chassis with a good 186 (to replant in the 67),not to mention numerous items like door locks,lenses,blackout lights,door tops etc i`m up in the air a bit. So not being able to fit any more vehicles in my place ( i have 3 trailers,another one coming & a vintage caravan) looks like the 67 & the chassis job have to go. The swb chassis/firewall look pretty much sold. Will be a few weeks b4 i get the Newcastle unit but if any one is interested in the others,drop me line. cheers gordon

[GS1967]

Evening all. Now the g/f got into the action. Why`d want to sell when you`ve already something just that bit different? So after looong discussion, i`m back to square one. Keep the `67 & replant the motor. Fair dinkum,my dawg don`t give me that much grief. So i`ll see what transpires over the next few days as the swb chassis & firewall is sold.Motor outta that goes into the `67. That`s pretty much straight forward as there`s no guards etc in the way. Different story with the other one. I have one of those mechanics gearbox trolley lifters & also a hoist fitted to one of my trailers so either way ones got to be able to lift the 186 out. Still have to pick up the door tops this w/e & do some other things in the meantime. The Newcastle unit will be garaged near there for the time being & will make my mind up about it later. Don`t need any more turmoil on the homefront. cheers gordon

[GS1967]

Evening all. Woohoo. Picked up my door tops this afternoon from fellow Landy owner. Must say i was impressed with his ride. Realised just what mine could look like once i saw all the little extras albeit that his is sporting specifics. But yeah, so tomorrow morning will strip down,clean the tops & make ready to insert the bailey channels. One change i`m going to make is fit fixed panel glass. No sliders. Don`t need them as you already have vents under windscreen. A case of keeping it simple. So a big thanks to (*). cheers gordon

[isuzutoo-eh]

G'day Gordon,
The way I understand it, the sliding windows are for elbow room, not ventilation :p
Cheers,
Mark
(PS PM received thanks)

[JDNSW]

........ One change i`m going to make is fit fixed panel glass. No sliders. Don`t need them as you already have vents under windscreen. A case of keeping it simple. So a big thanks to (*). cheers gordon

And of course you can remove the door tops. But I would check the legality of having no opening window next to the driver - I have a feeling this may be required for such things as handing your licence to the cop who pulled you up and for paying tolls, putting tickets in parking station boom gate machines etc.

John

[GS1967]

Bugger. Don`t get pulled over. Don`t use the malls.Don`t use the freeways.Drive it around the backyard. Ha. So sliders they be. cheers gordon

[isuzutoo-eh]

For future generations seeking such things:
Reproduction door tops are made by Britpart and Bearmach in the UK.

Bearmach are imported by karcraft (Karcraft Australia Pty Ltd (http://www.karcraft.com.au))

Both Bearmach and Britpart are listed in Rovacraft's catalogues (WA, NSW, Vic)(www.rovacraft.com.au);

Four Wheel Drives in Melbourne apparently have door tops, not sure which repro ones. Also known as 'that mob' often partnered in sentence with 'buyer beware'.:angel: (Four Wheel Drives - Land Rovers New and Used Spare Parts (http://www.fwd.com.au))

FWD motors (not related to above co.)in Brisbane have or have had Perentie door tops which are similar but one piece aluminium (still with steel bolts) (FWD Motors Pty Ltd (http://www.fwd-motors.com.au))

GaryCLR (ebay, Sydney based) gets Bearmach and Britparts stuff, so he can probably supply them.

All Fourx4 at Kotara, NSW might stock door tops but their website doesn't have a catalogue per se (All Four x 4 Spares - Home (http://www.allfourx4.com.au))

Land Vehicle Spares I have no idea about because at time of writing they seem to have forgotten to renew their domain name :p (landvehiclespares.com (http://www.landvehiclespares.com))

I think $120 is a common price per door top, but I don't know first-hand:cool:

You will also need bailey channel.

Supercheap auto have shiny stainless steel wheel lug nuts that can be used to secure your new door tops to the door bottoms. 7/16ths by 20mm if I recall correctly.

Anyway, I'm sure other places stock the reproduction door tops but that list should be a good start :D

Cheers,
Mark

[Wolfman_TWP]

I got my door tops via ebay for $120 each, and the rubbers and channels came with it. (Including the rubber that sits under the door top) It was just the matter of swapping over the glass, and packing aluminium. Which company manufactured them, I have no idea though..

Wolf

[ezyrama]

Just ordered 2 x door tops from 4WD Motors for $123.98+gst. Frames only but they have complete units for $298 + gst

[isuzutoo-eh]

Hmmm...good timing...Gary CLR has put two pair of door tops up on ebay with bailey channel and rubber bits etc:
Land Rover Series 2 - 3 New Door Top Set - eBay Doors, Door Handles, Exterior, Car Parts, Accessories, Cars, Bikes, Boats. (end time 09-Sep-09 09:03:15 AEST) (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Land-Rover-Series-2-3-New-Door-Top-Set_W0QQitemZ220464921803QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Car _Parts_Accessories?hash=item3354bbbccb&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14)
and
Land Rover Series 2 - 3 New Door Top Set - eBay Doors, Door Handles, Exterior, Car Parts, Accessories, Cars, Bikes, Boats. (end time 09-Sep-09 09:03:40 AEST) (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Land-Rover-Series-2-3-New-Door-Top-Set_W0QQitemZ220464921939QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Car _Parts_Accessories?hash=item3354bbbd53&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14)

So theres an easy option. And I'm not connected to Gary CLR 'cept as a customer.
Cheers,
-Mark

[isuzurover]

FWD motors (not related to above co.)in Brisbane have or have had Perentie door tops which are similar but one piece aluminium (still with steel bolts) (FWD Motors Pty Ltd (http://www.fwd-motors.com.au))


You will also need bailey channel.


Great work! - however a slight addition / correction.

FWD motors usually also have standard repro door tops in stock (the ones my dad bought were SIII type). They fit well, and look exactly the same as the originals.

The perentie door tops I got from FWD were 2nd hand, and do not use bailey channel - or rather they have an alloy double I-beam looking thing on the frame, and an inverted U attached to the top and bottom of the glass sections. They also lock the glass in any position - not just lock it closed like the series tops. The steel bolts which hold them on are metric and smaller diameter than the series bolts. They thread into alloy nuts/blocks in the door top.

[isuzutoo-eh]

Hi Ben,
Does the following look anything like the Perentie tops?
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/08/1142.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/08/1143.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/08/1144.jpg

They are welded aluminium, the bolts are steel and are attached to captive steel blocks inside the door top. They have the series 3 style plastic lock. From your description this is a different beast again.
Regards,
Mark

[isuzutoo-eh]

Hi Ben,
Does the following look anything like the Perentie tops?
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/08/1142.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/08/1143.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/08/1144.jpg

They are welded aluminium, the bolts are steel and are attached to captive steel blocks inside the door top. They have the series 3 style plastic lock. From your description this is a different beast again.
Regards,
Mark

[isuzurover]

They look different again. I will take some pics of the perentie tops tomorrow.

[isuzurover]

Sorry, took me a bit longer. Would have taken some more detailled pics, but the camera battery was dying and it was raining...

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[isuzutoo-eh]

G'day Ben. Thanks for posting the photos. Looks like another desirable alternative to look out for.
Cheers,
Mark