Disco 4 review 5/5

[martinozcmax]

Land Rover Discovery 4 review - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/carreviews/5978302/Land-Rover-Discovery-4-review.html)

[loanrangie]

Land Rover Discovery 4 review - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/carreviews/5978302/Land-Rover-Discovery-4-review.html)

Another step closer to D3 affordability :), bout time they upped the TDV6 to 3ltr.

[PAT303]

Another step closer to D3 affordability :), bout time they upped the TDV6 to 3ltr.

Yep all they need to do now is drop the ''old'' 2.7 with auto into the defender. Pat

[V8Ian]

It's still ugly.:(

[Disco_owner]

Looking at the article the discovery 4 has a twin-Turbo Charger setup ,now would this be 2 identical turbo chargers running in parallel , or are they referring to a sequential turbo charging like one developed by BMW?

[big guy]

Disco Owner

The article says one turbo cuts in early and one later, does that answer your question?

More power, more torque, more economy. Can't beat that really.

Land Rover Aust could give all Disco one owners a special deal and take us into the next generation of transportation, now that would be agreat deal.

Any takers here?

[Chucaro]

Any takers here?

Nope, give me the Isuzu 3.9 ot the Tdi 300 any time for Ozi remote trips :D

[big guy]

I do agree with you, well almost, not a suzi man but technology is a way we are going and yes that will make outback travel more difficult/dangerous but the time will come when we be forced to take our old faithful off the road for a new enviro friendly car.

I give them 5-10 years. Thoughts?

[Chucaro]

I do agree with you, well almost, not a suzi man but technology is a way we are going and yes that will make outback travel more difficult/dangerous but the time will come when we be forced to take our old faithful off the road for a new enviro friendly car.

I give them 5-10 years. Thoughts?

It will be when the price and maintenance will be afforable for a pensioner :D
I am on the waithing list for a 2008 diesel RR at $ 10000 :p

[Disco_owner]

Disco Owner

The article says one turbo cuts in early and one later, does that answer your question?

More power, more torque, more economy. Can't beat that really.

Land Rover Aust could give all Disco one owners a special deal and take us into the next generation of transportation, now that would be agreat deal.

Any takers here?


aha... so it is Sequential Twin Turbocharging.

I agree , Technology is the way to go , better performance , better Fuel economy , less particulates , more power Torque etc. I would buy a Defender with a TDV6 engine , if they released one with better ergonomics. :wasntme:


ducks for cover....

[stevo68]

It's still ugly.:(Actually that would be incorrect........just because you think its ugly....doesn't in fact mean it's ugly. I fail to see the relevance of that comment in relation to the post. You would also be incorrect in that the majority of people....including myself...think it is a fantastic looking vehicle...aside from all the other aspects to the D3/D4.

I could think of many, many things that could be considered "ugly".... an LR...let alone a Disco 3/4 is not. It's a bit like hearing that an Aussie has won gold at the Olympics and someone goes....yeah but he's ugly....instead of lauding praise or saying something positive. Sorry but posts like that in an LR forum just **** me off as it does many other D3 and soon to be D4 owners,

Regards

Stevo

[Chucaro]

Stevo....do you have a bad day :eek::confused:
Take it easy mate :D

[Ricey]

Talking to a D1 owner the other day, he said he didn't like the D3 as it was too 'Boxy' all the while standing in front of his D1 which, well, is as boxy as a D3 imo. I love the look of the D4!

[V8Ian]

Actually that would be incorrect........just because you think its ugly....doesn't in fact mean it's ugly. I fail to see the relevance of that comment in relation to the post. You would also be incorrect in that the majority of people....including myself...think it is a fantastic looking vehicle...aside from all the other aspects to the D3/D4.

I could think of many, many things that could be considered "ugly".... an LR...let alone a Disco 3/4 is not. It's a bit like hearing that an Aussie has won gold at the Olympics and someone goes....yeah but he's ugly....instead of lauding praise or saying something positive. Sorry but posts like that in an LR forum just **** me off as it does many other D3 and soon to be D4 owners,

Regards

Stevo
Well sorry Stevo, that's my opinion, I'm entitled to it and I stand by it. If your opinion differs I respect your right to like it, and as such I won't get **** off by it.

[George130]

Looks fine. They could have kept the roof buldge bigger. It's a signature look for the Disco's.

[PAT303]

It's still ugly.:(

Yeh they should follow tojo and make it look like the 200-klugga and Rav,man they make my heart jump. Pat

[V8Ian]

Yeh they should follow tojo and make it look like the 200-klugga and Rav,man they make my heart jump. Pat
I personally prefer the more conservative style like a D1 or 2, but I respect your preference.

[Disco_owner]

I personally prefer the more conservative style like a D1 or 2, but I respect your preference.


:Rolling:I Think pat was having a dig at the Toyomota Lambbruiser 200 or the Klugger's styling.

[loanrangie]

I personally prefer the more conservative style like a D1 or 2, but I respect your preference.

Unless hes being sarcastic, i dont respect his right to like toyota 4wd's- now there's a stable of fugly vehicles.:wasntme:

[willem]

Now, now children, behave yourselves!

Just remember what they say in the classics - beauty is in the eye of of the beholder!

Willem

[martinozcmax]

Using the same logic,just because you think it is not ugly,doesn't mean it isn't.It is just an opinion,Everyone has one and no one is right or wrong,only to themselves.:)

Opinions are like arses everyone has one but nobody wants to see anyone else's. :D :D :wasntme:

[martinozcmax]

I personally won't buy a D3 or D4. I like my old 93 Tdi 200 because I can service it myself and buy any parts I need from ebay UK cheaply. I use a mechanic I trust for anything too hard for me and he doesn't rip me off with silly hourly rates or work charged for and not done.

I hate getting ripped off by the dealers and the outrageous servicing costs. I also think the old mechanical less electronics vehicles are less likely to leave you stranded. The only three amigo's in my life are on celluloid. :)

But as several people have stated it's each to their own. We all have more in common than differences, after all we are all on the aulro site through choice.

Regards

Martin

[stevo68]

Well sorry Stevo, that's my opinion, I'm entitled to it and I stand by it. If your opinion differs I respect your right to like it, and as such I won't get **** off by it.


Using the same logic,just because you think it is not ugly,doesn't mean it isn't.It is just an opinion,Everyone has one and no one is right or wrong,only to themselves.No need to be sorry.....we all know the saying about opinions. My point was that someone posted something good about LR...in this case a D4 and that was the best you can come up with....."its still ugly". Point being?? So hooray for having an opinion.....its relevance to the topic is nil. Yes...why don't we all knock our marque when something good is said about it? For sure be critical if warranted...but knock it for knockings sake?

As to logic....well opinions are easily torn to shreds...factual information is a lot harder to refute. In terms of the statement "being ugly"....that is an opinion. Being the top rated 4WD around the world, winning countless awards and people spending upwards of $60k-$100k + would confirm that the opinion of it being a great looking car along with other aspects...would be correct.

So yes we all have opinions yada yada........ what I fail to see is the point of innocuous statements such as that...in a positive article about an LR...one may as well go buy a Toyota or Nissan as they seem to revel in putting things down,

Regards

Stevo

[dullbird]

No need to be sorry.....we all know the saying about opinions.
My point was that someone posted something good about LR...in this case a D4 and that was the best you can come up with....."its still ugly". Point being?? So hooray for having an opinion.....its relevance to the topic is nil. Yes...why don't we all knock our marque when something good is said about it? For sure be critical if warranted...but knock it for knockings sake?

As to logic....well opinions are easily torn to shreds...factual information is a lot harder to refute. In terms of the statement "being ugly"....that is an opinion. Being the top rated 4WD around the world, winning countless awards and people spending upwards of $60k-$100k + would confirm that the opinion of it being a great looking car along with other aspects...would be correct.

So yes we all have opinions yada yada........ what I fail to see is the point of innocuous statements such as that...in a positive article about an LR...one may as well go buy a Toyota or Nissan as they seem to revel in putting things down,

Regards

Stevo

he is still allowed an opinion stevo....and it is relevant to the thread as it is about the car.
the poster only put up a review of someone elses opinions.

If someone posted up a review that slated the marque does that mean that everyone that posts in that thread can only say bad things as saying good things wouldn't be relevant?:D


IanV8 if you think that cars ugly.........good for you.:p I dont I like it and knowing what the D3/4's can do makes it even nicer.....

We are ALL guilty for pointless posts probably even you stevo thats part and parcel of writing something on here. Not everyone is going to like what you say:)

[JohnF]

It will be when the price and maintenance will be afforable for a pensioner :D
I am on the waithing list for a 2008 diesel RR at $ 10000 :p

Knowing the second hand pricing of an old RR you might not have to wait that long for it to be affordable

[stevo68]

he is still allowed an opinion stevo....and it is relevant to the thread as it is about the car.
the poster only put up a review of someone elses opinions.

If someone posted up a review that slated the marque does that mean that everyone that posts in that thread can only say bad things as saying good things wouldn't be relevant?:D


IanV8 if you think that cars ugly.........good for you.:p I dont I like it and knowing what the D3/4's can do makes it even nicer.....

We are ALL guilty for pointless posts probably even you stevo thats part and parcel of writing something on here. Not everyone is going to like what you say:)Ahhh DB....you've probably being waiting months to counteract something I have said..seeing that I have been so quiet :p. Now quite clearly...I haven't said anyone isn't allowed an opinion.

The risk one takes though by expressing that opinion...as I have....is that you may cop some flak over it. That said...some opinions deserve more flak than others......I think that deserves flak. Whether the "piece" was positive or negative...is irrelevant....I think to put down one of our "own" is not much chop....and quite thoughtless as we have many D3 and soon to be D4 owners who will join this forum.

Plus if one is going to make a statement...at least back it up...its ugly because???

And really...if that's ugly...them I'm a monkeys uncle.......

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/08/1326.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/05/972.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/08/1327.jpg

Regards

Stevo

[dullbird]

Ahhh DB....you've probably being waiting months to counteract something I have said..seeing that I have been so quiet :p. Now quite clearly...I haven't said anyone isn't allowed an opinion.

The risk one takes though by expressing that opinion...as I have....is that you may cop some flak over it. That said...some opinions deserve more flak than others......I think that deserves flak. Whether the "piece" was positive or negative...is irrelevant....I think to put down one of our "own" is not much chop....and quite thoughtless as we have many D3 and soon to be D4 owners who will join this forum.

Plus if one is going to make a statement...at least back it up...its ugly because???

And really...if that's ugly...them I'm a monkeys uncle.......

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/08/1326.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/05/972.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/08/1327.jpg

Regards

Stevo

:lol2: you wish:D.......you haven't been that quiet stevo I have enjoyed reading your posts up until this one. Wow your a very sensitive guy stevo to think that when ever i reply to your post I have been sitting and waiting to do so......your not that important mate;).

In fact you may notice that I often have a say when I feel anyone is having a go at someone on here when its not necessary

I replied as I feel you have been very harsh.....if you feel he needs to back up his statement couldn't you have just asked why he feels the way he does? rather than going off on one like that and try to make him look small in front of the whole forum.:)

[Outlaw]

And what is this thread actually about again????? OH YES a review on a D4 not on a questionably looking boxy D3 :p

[dullbird]

And what is this thread actually about again?????
OH YES a review on a D4 not on a questionably looking boxy D3 :p


says the man that drives a house brick:D

[V8Ian]

No need to be sorry.....we all know the saying about opinions. My point was that someone posted something good about LR...in this case a D4 and that was the best you can come up with....."its still ugly". Point being?? So hooray for having an opinion.....its relevance to the topic is nil. Yes...why don't we all knock our marque when something good is said about it? For sure be critical if warranted...but knock it for knockings sake?

As to logic....well opinions are easily torn to shreds...factual information is a lot harder to refute. In terms of the statement "being ugly"....that is an opinion. Being the top rated 4WD around the world, winning countless awards and people spending upwards of $60k-$100k + would confirm that the opinion of it being a great looking car along with other aspects...would be correct.

So yes we all have opinions yada yada........ what I fail to see is the point of innocuous statements such as that...in a positive article about an LR...one may as well go buy a Toyota or Nissan as they seem to revel in putting things down,

Regards

Stevo
You must have been a Chinese editor in a previous life, where only the positive spin may be published, true or not. You're in Australia now, where we have freedom of speach, thought and opinion. My free opinion still considers the D3 ugly! If you want one, good for you, I hope you get many years of happiness from it. If you do ever aquire possession of one, rest assured I will not be launching bombastic attacks upon you for your (right of) choice. As a democratic Australian, I will respect everyone's choice and right to hold a differing opinion.

I may not agree with your views, but will fight for your right to hold and express them.

[olbod]

I could live with the new D4, especially now Cooper are producing an AT
tyre to fit the bigger wheel diamaters.

I must admit tho that it would be a base model with less electrical gadgets.
I am not completly sold on the shape of the D3-4 but I think this new one would be good vaue for money and they have also increased its off road capability.
TJM make a very nice bullbar for them also.

[gone bush]

I THINK IT LOOKS AWESOME AND I WANT ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks martin for posting the review.
cheers JP

[PAT303]

I personally prefer the more conservative style like a D1 or 2, but I respect your preference.

I agree with you,I like the D1 over all the others too but I also like the way LR have not copied the japanese in making all thier vehicles look the same with the rounded body work and stupid looking lights and oversize plastic bumpers. Pat

[WhiteD3]

I could live with the new D4, especially now Cooper are producing an AT tyre to fit the bigger wheel diamaters..

Yes but one small problem remains re 18" tyres. The spare wheel well will only take a 265 (255 being the standard tyre). If you want to go bigger, to say a 275 ATR, the spare either won't fit or has to be deflated first.

[x-box]

I also drive a house brick and love it!!!! The D4 just looks like a more fancy brick, but by golly i would love one.
Electronics or not, they are getting better and more reliable - and my view of D3's offroad has been amended (we have a few in our club and they go places!)
So ugly or not is irrelevant (for me) - different strokes etc etc...... I love them and would have one in a flash

[WhiteD3]

Personally I love the look of the D3/4. One big plus is it doesn't look like anything else on the road.

My only complaint re the D4 is the colour-coded bumpers. I, like everyone else who's been off road in the D3, have scrapped the rear bumper while exiting washouts, creeks, etc. In the D3 they're mat black so the odd scrape makes little difference. Doing the same thing to a colour-coded bumper add a degree of stress (and $$) which I don't need.

I think the "sand start" mode and launch changes to the HDC will be very good.

[stevo68]

:lol2: you wish:D.......you haven't been that quiet stevo I have enjoyed reading your posts up until this one. Wow your a very sensitive guy stevo to think that when ever i reply to your post I have been sitting and waiting to do so......your not that important mate;).

In fact you may notice that I often have a say when I feel anyone is having a go at someone on here when its not necessary

I replied as I feel you have been very harsh.....if you feel he needs to back up his statement couldn't you have just asked why he feels the way he does? rather than going off on one like that and try to make him look small in front of the whole forum.:)Actually I have been quiet in regards to getting involved in any sort of discussion....got old getting flagged in the mods area. Sensitive.....highly unlikely....SWMBO would love it if I was more sensitive instead of being like a bull at a gate :). As for harsh....I think putting down an LR on a LR forum is harsh.


You must have been a Chinese editor in a previous life, where only the positive spin may be published, true or not. You're in Australia now, where we have freedom of speach, thought and opinion. My free opinion still considers the D3 ugly! If you want one, good for you, I hope you get many years of happiness from it. If you do ever aquire possession of one, rest assured I will not be launching bombastic attacks upon you for your (right of) choice. As a democratic Australian, I will respect everyone's choice and right to hold a differing opinion.

I may not agree with your views, but will fight for your right to hold and express them. Chinese?? I'm in Australia now?? Bombastic?? You and a few others seem to miss the point. I couldn't care less about your opinion....so you think its ugly......care factor 0. It was the point of making the comment in the first place.....why? What value did it hold? Someone puts up a positive report on the D4...so what...we malign it instead? Thats what we do?

I think the "opinion" component has been covered. What I want to know is if someone posts up a positive report on an LR...any LR....then that it is ok to knock it one form or another...opinion or not. When negative reports are posted....folks are up in arms...when someone on our own forum does it....must be ok. If the general consensus is that it is ok...guess I will happily stay in the minority.

As for respecting everyones choice and opinions...personally I do not. Think about some peoples opinions and choices...can one really respect them?? Oh and no not Chinese.........have been in Australia all my life....bombastic....will give that one to SWMBO..she's always looking for new things to call me....and yes have already owned a D3...thought the pics were a dead giveaway...best damn vehicle I have ever owned.

Regards

Stevo

[djhampson]

Dropped into Austral LR on Sunday to test drive a D3 SE TDV6.

Apparently the prices for the D4 will be confirmed soon but... the V6 SE has been dropped and the SE will only be available in the 3.0 TDV6 at approx $91k

The 2.7TDV6 S will be around $70-80k mark.

That means the Discovery has gotten 10 - 15k more expensive. :(

[Chucaro]

Dropped into Austral LR on Sunday to test drive a D3 SE TDV6.

Apparently the prices for the D4 will be confirmed soon but... the V6 SE has been dropped and the SE will only be available in the 3.0 TDV6 at approx $91k

The 2.7TDV6 S will be around $70-80k mark.

That means the Discovery has gotten 10 - 15k more expensive. :(

Oh well it will be a 2025 project then :D

[dullbird]

Actually I have been quiet in regards to getting involved in any sort of discussion....
got old getting flagged in the mods area. Sensitive.....highly unlikely....SWMBO would love it if I was more sensitive instead of being like a bull at a gate :). As for harsh....I think putting down an LR on a LR forum is harsh.

Chinese?? I'm in Australia now?? Bombastic?? You and a few others seem to miss the point. I couldn't care less about your opinion....so you think its ugly......care factor 0. It was the point of making the comment in the first place.....why? What value did it hold? Someone puts up a positive report on the D4...so what...we malign it instead? Thats what we do?

I think the "opinion" component has been covered. What I want to know is if someone posts up a positive report on an LR...any LR....then that it is ok to knock it one form or another...opinion or not. When negative reports are posted....folks are up in arms...when someone on our own forum does it....must be ok. If the general consensus is that it is ok...guess I will happily stay in the minority.

As for respecting everyones choice and opinions...personally I do not. Think about some peoples opinions and choices...can one really respect them?? Oh and no not Chinese.........have been in Australia all my life....bombastic....will give that one to SWMBO..she's always looking for new things to call me....and yes have already owned a D3...thought the pics were a dead giveaway...best damn vehicle I have ever owned.

Regards

Stevo

what made you think you were getting flagged in the mods area?
only people that go out of there way to upset others or constantly don't abide by the rules get flagged in the mods area.

[Chucaro]

Bugger.......I just wonder if it is something on the water :( :confused:
I never get agro for something like that, perhaps we can have "The bitters corner" in the forum isntead of the sims bin :angel:

[stevo68]

Bugger.......I just wonder if it is something on the water :( :confused:
I never get agro for something like that, perhaps we can have "The bitters corner" in the forum isntead of the sims bin :angel: Don't confuse putting across a perspective as being aggro or bitter. Your making an assumption, whereas in fact I am happily munching on cheese and toast. Now if I were to mention unions, the down trodden or governments, there would be a whole dialogue from yourself forthwith :p....horses for courses when it comes to subject matter,

Regards

Stevo

[WhiteD3]

Dropped into Austral LR on Sunday to test drive a D3 SE TDV6.

Apparently the prices for the D4 will be confirmed soon but... the V6 SE has been dropped and the SE will only be available in the 3.0 TDV6 at approx $91k

The 2.7TDV6 S will be around $70-80k mark.

That means the Discovery has gotten 10 - 15k more expensive. :(

I expected as much. That rules our a D4 for me, unless its an S with the TR option.

[martinozcmax]

Never in my wildest dreams did I imagine posting a review of a new LR could be so divisive.

I'll have to watch what I post next time.

Live and let live guys and gals. We don't all have to love the same shapes and styles to be Land Rover afficionados :eek:


Martin

[olbod]

Yes but one small problem remains re 18" tyres. The spare wheel well will only take a 265 (255 being the standard tyre). If you want to go bigger, to say a 275 ATR, the spare either won't fit or has to be deflated first.


I think we will find the wheel sizes will be around 20" or more, maybe 19
on the base model.

With the capability of the new D4 offroad, I dont think oversize tyres would be warranted.
With the new AT tyres now in these sizes, it will be even better offroad
because of the extra strength these tyres will provide.

The new AT tyres are also made to fit the late model RR and Sport.
Would have to be much better than running road tyres on the outback roads.
Travelling from Maree to the Alice I know what I would rather be wearing.
Cheers.

[Chucaro]

Never in my wildest dreams did I imagine posting a review of a new LR could be so divisive.

I'll have to watch what I post next time.

Live and let live guys and gals. We don't all have to love the same shapes and styles to be Land Rover afficionados :eek:


Martin

It is good Martin specially for the members down south, it keeps the "fire" going :D

[PAT303]

For the record the disco has the ''boxy'' shape for a reason,room.It has won alot of awards because you can seat adults into it comfortably with lots of leg,head and shoulder room were as the cruiser,even though it is bigger struggles to fit adults in the middle seats if the front are back and the third row are for people with no legs and are as comfy as a milk crate with a towl on it.In the end everything is a compromise and LR have done the best job out of all the makers,hence the most awards. Pat

[willem]

As I have said before, I reckon the Disco 3/4 shape is all class. A really distinctive, attractive shape shape that will be recognised by posterity as being a work of art - just as the Rangie Classic was.

But it is also a very efficient shape, as someone else has pointed out. It is a car the designers sat down and asked all the right questions and got some first rate answers.

I am just waiting till the time comes when I can afford one. It is one of those cars that just clicked the first time I saw it. It all adds up, every box is ticked, etc.

Willem

[Panda]

May well be ... but I know someone who's looking at buying a new four wheel drive, & has specifically said he won't buy the D4 because it is "ugly" to look at & too boxy. So his opinion is relevant to an extent, to an extent that the shape of the vehicle puts some people off buying it.


No need to be sorry.....we all know the saying about opinions. My point was that someone posted something good about LR...in this case a D4 and that was the best you can come up with....."its still ugly". Point being?? So hooray for having an opinion.....its relevance to the topic is nil. Yes...why don't we all knock our marque when something good is said about it? For sure be critical if warranted...but knock it for knockings sake?

As to logic....well opinions are easily torn to shreds...factual information is a lot harder to refute. In terms of the statement "being ugly"....that is an opinion. Being the top rated 4WD around the world, winning countless awards and people spending upwards of $60k-$100k + would confirm that the opinion of it being a great looking car along with other aspects...would be correct.

So yes we all have opinions yada yada........ what I fail to see is the point of innocuous statements such as that...in a positive article about an LR...one may as well go buy a Toyota or Nissan as they seem to revel in putting things down,

Regards

Stevo

[Panda]

Don't worry Martin ... the cricket'll be back on in a couple of weeks :Rolling:


Never in my wildest dreams did I imagine posting a review of a new LR could be so divisive.

I'll have to watch what I post next time.

Live and let live guys and gals. We don't all have to love the same shapes and styles to be Land Rover afficionados :eek:


Martin

[Panda]

I'm not particularly enamoured with the rear myself ...


It's still ugly.:(

[PAT303]

May well be ... but I know someone who's looking at buying a new four wheel drive, & has specifically said he won't buy the D4 because it is "ugly" to look at & too boxy. So his opinion is relevant to an extent, to an extent that the shape of the vehicle puts some people off buying it.

Thats the trouble,the people who buy a vehicle don't sit in the back.Give me a boxy shape anyday if it means I haven't got my knees at my chin and someone else's elbo's in my ribs.The Discovery deserves every award it has. Pat

[dullbird]

the Disco is a box, that off roads well straight out of the box and comes from a country that has as much space as a box.

its in its heritage:D

[Panda]

I don't doubt it. My point is some people have a certain perspective, & it doesn't matter what you say, what they read, etc, they won't change it come hell or high water. :)


Thats the trouble,the people who buy a vehicle don't sit in the back.Give me a boxy shape anyday if it means I haven't got my knees at my chin and someone else's elbo's in my ribs.The Discovery deserves every award it has. Pat

[martinozcmax]

As Panda has noted, coming soon. roll on the cricket !! :angel:

[V8Ian]

Chinese?? I'm in Australia now?? Bombastic?? You and a few others seem to miss the point. I couldn't care less about your opinion....so you think its ugly......care factor 0. It was the point of making the comment in the first place.....why? What value did it hold? Someone puts up a positive report on the D4...so what...we malign it instead? Thats what we do?

I think the "opinion" component has been covered. What I want to know is if someone posts up a positive report on an LR...any LR....then that it is ok to knock it one form or another...opinion or not. When negative reports are posted....folks are up in arms...when someone on our own forum does it....must be ok. If the general consensus is that it is ok...guess I will happily stay in the minority.

As for respecting everyones choice and opinions...personally I do not. Think about some peoples opinions and choices...can one really respect them?? Oh and no not Chinese.........have been in Australia all my life....bombastic....will give that one to SWMBO..she's always looking for new things to call me....and yes have already owned a D3...thought the pics were a dead giveaway...best damn vehicle I have ever owned.

Regards

Stevo
Your post graphically displays your depth of arrogance, Stevo.
You may not respect other's or my opinions, nor care less for them; obviously you are concerned that I hold massive sway amongst intelligent folk though. I can visualize the headlines of financial broadsheets across the globe.....


MASSES AVOID LAND ROVER
IAN SAYS D3 & 4 UGLY
Share Prices Plummet

How many prospective customers do you think my humble opinion will turn away. My opinion is not a negative comment, it is a purely, 100% subjective observation. Some may not subscribe to my appreciation, that's fine too. The smart thinkers will merely say, "I don't accede to your view, I'm going to buy one." instead of running off at the mouth.
Take a good look at yourself Stevo, you have executed a brilliant swallow dive from a high bridge, only to discover a train line below instead of a river.
Best wishes,
Ian.

[Tote]

I expected as much. That rules our a D4 for me, unless its an S with the TR option.

Never would imply that sales people would be less than truthful about the new pricing on an upcoming model but have a look at the current situation.
They want to sell vehicles NOW.... best to make a customer think the D4 is dearer, will have different specs etc
The $AUD is going Ok against the pound so no surprises there
The Landcruiser is the only real competition for the D4, TATA want to incresase market share, making the D4 $10K dearer would push customers to the Cruiser.
I reckon they'll fiddle with the spec to get a small increase in price with maybe a few less accessories/trim combinations to keep the price competitive if necessary.

Regards,
Tote

[olbod]

Some more pics of the D4.
I must say that it's growing on me the more I think about it.

[Barra1]

I collect underpants

Aussie, we need you here.....now!;):eek:

[Ricey]

Aussie, we need you here.....now!;):eek:

ROFL

He might not like 'boxers' though :D

[Jamo]

making the D4 $10K dearer would push customers to the Cruiser.
Regards,
Tote

Not necessarily Tote. The LC200 Sahara is around $110,000 before options and has the fitout of an SE D3.

[PAT303]

And thats the reason people are sticking to the 100 series or buying Prado's.I have met,heard of a few people that have bought D3's because of the value they have over the 200 and all of them bar none have been supprised how good the D3 is. Pat

[Jamo]

I considered the 'Ugly' comments here at length and chose to ponder on them whilst I drove across wet paddocks in 'Mud & Ruts" mode, whilst listening to the Harmon Kardon, relaxing on the Connolly leather and not listening to the TDV6, which is rather quiet; and was upset that I had an 'Ugly' Car.:dbcry::dbcry::BigCry::BigCry::BigCry:

Maybe I should save myself the pain and buy a D1, then sit back on the vinyl and turn up the Ferris to try and drown out the rattle. At least then I'd be safe from those staring eyes, who were no doubt questioning why I had bought such an ugly car.

No, I shall stick with my D3 for now (until I get a D4 that is!;)) and put up with the shame!

[stevo68]

Aussie, we need you here.....now!;):eek: Its ok...I'm still trying to recover from my shallow swan dive....I'll be in traction for a while ;),

Regards

Stevo

[willem]

Some more pics of the D4.
I must say that it's growing on me the more I think about it.

Strewth a D4 would be hard to take! ;):D:D:D:D

Willem

[VladTepes]

I'd have a Disco 4 in a heartbeat if I could afford one.

[V8Ian]

I considered the 'Ugly' comments here at length and chose to ponder on them whilst I drove across wet paddocks in 'Mud & Ruts" mode, whilst listening to the Harmon Kardon, relaxing on the Connolly leather and not listening to the TDV6, which is rather quiet; and was upset that I had an 'Ugly' Car.:dbcry::dbcry::BigCry::BigCry::BigCry:

Maybe I should save myself the pain and buy a D1, then sit back on the vinyl and turn up the Ferris to try and drown out the rattle. At least then I'd be safe from those staring eyes, who were no doubt questioning why I had bought such an ugly car.

No, I shall stick with my D3 for now (until I get a D4 that is!;)) and put up with the shame!
You have no shame to put up with, you are as entitled to like the car as I am to dislike it. I am in no way disrespecting the vehicle or those who find it attractive. My Disco is sans vinyl, Ferris and rattles, yet I feel no shame.;) Go forth proudly in your D3, just don't ask me like the look of it.:)

[PAT303]

I considered the 'Ugly' comments here at length and chose to ponder on them whilst I drove across wet paddocks in 'Mud & Ruts" mode, whilst listening to the Harmon Kardon, relaxing on the Connolly leather and not listening to the TDV6, which is rather quiet; and was upset that I had an 'Ugly' Car.:dbcry::dbcry::BigCry::BigCry::BigCry:

Maybe I should save myself the pain and buy a D1, then sit back on the vinyl and turn up the Ferris to try and drown out the rattle. At least then I'd be safe from those staring eyes, who were no doubt questioning why I had bought such an ugly car.

No, I shall stick with my D3 for now (until I get a D4 that is!;)) and put up with the shame!

Jamo when are you getting your D4?,I'm holidaying in Esperance over Xmas,can I have a drive. Pat

[willem]

I'd have a Disco 4 in a heartbeat if I could afford one.

Me too!

Willem

[Graeme]

Ozi D4 prices were public info on 1st August, so complete specs must be too. Base model is 2.7 (c/w TR), SE is 3.0, HSE is 3.0 or 5.0.

[djhampson]

Ozi D4 prices were public info on 1st August, so complete specs must be too. Base model is 2.7 (c/w TR), SE is 3.0, HSE is 3.0 or 5.0.

You got a link to the prices? I can't find em and the dealer wouldn't say anything definitive.

[martinozcmax]

At the risk of causing a riot, I have changed my mind and like the look of them. They do grow on you. I want one !
:angel:

[Graeme]

Melb metro on-road prices, advised as being public info. I assume its for white on models where white is available.



DISCOVERY 4 PRICING

Discovery 4 TDV6 2.7L
$68490 RRP
$74675 On Road Price

Discovery 4 TDV6 3.0L
$81990 RRP
$88845 On Road Price

Discovery 4 TDV6 HSE 3.0L
$94990 RRP
$102495 On Road Price

Discovery 4 5.0L V8
$126460 RRP
$135695 On Road Price

It will be interesting to see what discounts, if any, can be obtained.

[tony]

what a load hot air over nothing, I don't like the shape of a disco either be it D1, D2 D3, D4 or double dimond..(that was'nt a bad drop come to think of it) and i got a d1 as well give me a range rover any day of the week

[dullbird]

Does anyone know why the difference between RRP and onroad cost differ so much between the models. would it be due to the vehicle weight perhaps?

D4 2.7ltr = 6185
D4 3.0ltr = 6855
D4 HSE 3.0 ltr = 7505
D4 5.0ltr = 9235

[PAT303]

What happened to all the $50,000 4wd's?.All of them are too dear. Pat

[dullbird]

What happened to all the $50,000 4wd's?.All of them are too dear. Pat


lmfao even the defender isn't $50,000:D....you a bit out of touch pat:p

[Graeme]

Does anyone know why the difference between RRP and onroad cost differ so much between the models. would it be due to the vehicle weight perhaps?

D4 2.7ltr = 6185
D4 3.0ltr = 6855
D4 HSE 3.0 ltr = 7505
D4 5.0ltr = 9235
Stamp Duty at rego time and probably higher pre-delivery charges for more bells and whistles.

[Hoges]

interesting thread! I'm sure there's a sociologist:eek: sitting out there somewhere advising LR how to tap the "real" LR spirit. It's interesting how LR drip feed little dobs of the pioneering Series I "dna" psyche in their sales pitch, make a tentative offering of same in the Defender range then manufacture heavier and more complicated loungechairs... D4/RR etc. Maybe it IS all in the mind...except for the true believers on this forum who actually "get it!"

I luv my P38 with all its foibles... but a D4 @ 2.7 tonnes ...? (watch out for incoming!.....:twisted:)

[John W]

Stevo, need I remind you that it is unAustralian to be positive. We must knock all good things, it is the only way we know we are loved by our mates if we are ribbed. Who cares (but you) if there are negative comments about LR.

Now for opinion, all land rovers are ugly but I love them, just coz Toyo et al are even uglier does not make LR pretty. Do you buy a 4x4 because it is pretty? Babies, puppies, wombats & chicks are pretty.

[PAT303]

interesting thread! I'm sure there's a sociologist:eek: sitting out there somewhere advising LR how to tap the "real" LR spirit. It's interesting how LR drip feed little dobs of the pioneering Series I "dna" psyche in their sales pitch, make a tentative offering of same in the Defender range then manufacture heavier and more complicated loungechairs... D4/RR etc. Maybe it IS all in the mind...except for the true believers on this forum who actually "get it!"

I luv my P38 with all its foibles... but a D4 @ 2.7 tonnes ...? (watch out for incoming!.....:twisted:)

Wait a few years,LR's are going on a serious diet.Alloy bodies on alloy subframe,chassis. Pat

[Zute]

I think the D3/D4 is ugly from some angles. But that wouldnt stop me from buying one. I buy 4wds for what they can do. Now if I had the money and looks came into it, give me a Sport.:woot::burnrubber::BigThumb:

[CaverD3]

Thats what SWMBO wants, but the dog won't fit in the back of one.:o

With the D3/4: "form follows fuction."