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djhampson
21st August 2009, 08:26 AM
What size winch would a D3 need at a minimum?
I've inadvertantly bought 10000LB ~ 4536kg winch (don't ask).
Will this be ok for a D3 or should I contact the seller about getting out of the deal?
Cheers,
Dave
AnD3rew
21st August 2009, 09:18 AM
the rule of thumb I have heard is multiply the vehicle weight by 1.5. That winch should be fine based on curb weight unladen, but it only has a margin of roughly 300kg for load, so it may not be enough for a heavily laden vehicle or a vehicle with trailer attached.
weeds
21st August 2009, 09:29 AM
use a snatch block and you will half the load......i think thats correct
do electric winches have overload?
djhampson
21st August 2009, 09:35 AM
Thanks weeds I didn't think of that.
The winch has a mechanical overload so if I got into a situiation where I overloaded the winch I could then change over to a snatch block.
Bank balance isn't going to be too good this month :o
Chops
21st August 2009, 10:48 AM
Get yourself a big "high mount",,
The Toy/Poo owners love you when they see you've got one big enough to get them unstuck,,,:D
:wasntme:
Neil P
21st August 2009, 12:38 PM
It's not just the pull weight to be considered ( and pulley use too ) , but
the runtime that the electric motor can do . For example , the Warn XP
has a 9000ish Kg rate , but it can run for much longer than a 12000kg
standard Warn ....... better motor windings etc . ....... just a thought
to consider. You don't want a burnout or a 5 second-and-stop job.
rmp
21st August 2009, 04:35 PM
Depends what you want to do with your winch. For recreational, not comp use, a 9500lb is fine, so is a 10,000. A 12lb is overkill, too heavy. If you need more pull than that you've got serious problems. Using a block will double the effective pull but halve the speed, allowing a little for friction loss. Mainly you do that to ease the load on the winch. Often a double-line pull is actually quicker than a single line as the winch isn't under so much stress. No recreational winch is designed for continual use, ie many minutes at a time so bear that in mind, and in fact neither is your battery system. This is why comp winches are quite different, much faster, longer duty cycles and with power supplies to match. Most recreational winching is short cycle, and should be as you often need to check and reposition things thus giving the winch a break. When you buy your winch budget for sythentic rope, a snatch block and tree-trunk protector. When you overload a recreational system winch typically your battery runs out of ability to turn the motor first.
300+
25th August 2009, 10:16 PM
It will depend on the brand. Take a look at the winch review in a recent 4wd monthly. The rating didn't seem to mean much, there was such a range between winches of each brand.
Cheers, Steve
Tombie
25th August 2009, 10:47 PM
Depends what you want to do with your winch. For recreational, not comp use, a 9500lb is fine, so is a 10,000. A 12lb is overkill, too heavy. If you need more pull than that you've got serious problems. Using a block will double the effective pull but halve the speed, allowing a little for friction loss. Mainly you do that to ease the load on the winch. Often a double-line pull is actually quicker than a single line as the winch isn't under so much stress. No recreational winch is designed for continual use, ie many minutes at a time so bear that in mind, and in fact neither is your battery system. This is why comp winches are quite different, much faster, longer duty cycles and with power supplies to match. Most recreational winching is short cycle, and should be as you often need to check and reposition things thus giving the winch a break. When you buy your winch budget for synthentic rope, a snatch block and tree-trunk protector. When you overload a recreational system winch typically your battery runs out of ability to turn the motor first.
Well said mate ;)
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