AppleMac = Brilliant

[Mulgo]

Just pre-ordered the Snow Leopard upgrade.

More features - heaps faster - easier for the end user ... AND ... smaller footprint = 7GB more space on my HD!

:clap2:

Brilliant!

Cheers,
Daniel

[It'sNotWorthComplaining!]

I D/loaded the iso to try out on a virtual machine, as I would like to rry Mac before buying one to see if its my os, but having AMD it stops at the splash. Bloody INTEL!:mad:

[Captain_Rightfoot]

I'm torn. I'm tempted to get the special pack with new everything for $229.

But then I'm also tempted to wait until early next year when they have new versions of iLife and iWork. Decisions decisions. :)

I'm sure the new one will be seriously fantastic. However Leopard is excellent almost beyond criticism and rock solid.

[Mick-Kelly]

Sounds good but i might wait until next year as well.

[Captain_Rightfoot]

Sounds good but i might wait until next year as well.

I'm not sure I can :o:o:o

10 reasons to upgrade (http://www.cultofmac.com/10-reasons-why-snow-leopard-is-an-essential-upgrade/15010)

The extra 7gb would be very compelling for me.

The following has no relevance to this discussion but I think I can...

YouTube - Top of the Line (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_Ompf5Qtxg&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Emacrumors%2Ecom%2F&feature=player_embedded)

[Scallops]

Now, c'mon guys - don't get too carried away - you know those Mac viruses are just around the corner - and I'm sure someone, somewhere - will have a problem with Snow Leopard. Add to this the fact that you will all be struggling to find any decent software to run - gee I don't know, think I'll refire my PC and take the next 3 weeks off work to fix my blank screen, run anti malware and spyware, download virus definitions and install Vista service pack 7,942.2 :p :wasntme:

[samuelclarke]

Looking forward to it! And it's coming out on my birthday too - sweet. :D

Windows 7 has an awful lot to catch up on (http://www.apple.com/macosx/refinements/enhancements-refinements.html)...maybe they should delay it for a few more years... hehe

[Tote]

I'm converted, SWMBO bought a macbook on the weekend, after mucking around with PCs of all descriptions since about 1986 it's just so easy to use and just works............
The last Apple I played with was a IIGS, theyve coe a way since then:D

Regards,
Tote

[disco2hse]

The last Apple I played with was a IIGS, theyve coe a way since then:D

hah yathink?!? :D

But even back then they were way ahead of the pack.

Alan

[Ferret]

Now, c'mon guys - don't get too carried away - you know those Mac viruses are just around the corner - and I'm sure someone, somewhere - will have a problem with Snow Leopard. Add to this the fact that you will all be struggling to find any decent software to run - gee I don't know, think I'll refire my PC and take the next 3 weeks off work to fix my blank screen, run anti malware and spyware, download virus definitions and install Vista service pack 7,942.2 :p :wasntme:

So I guess you won't be updating Snow Leopard's own in anti malware definitions either.

http://snow leopard contains an antivirus/ (http://blog.intego.com/2009/08/25/snow-leopard-contains-an-antivirus/)

:wasntme:

[Scallops]

So I guess you won't be updating Snow Leopard's own in anti malware definitions either.

http://snow leopard contains an antivirus/ (http://blog.intego.com/2009/08/25/snow-leopard-contains-an-antivirus/)

:wasntme:

Probably won't have to, Ferret - Macs can do software updates all by themselves. But you didn't read my post - I'm getting my PC back out - it's clearly the way forward. Can you send me a link to Vista service pack # 7,361.2? Oh look, don't worry - I'm sure its in the Vista survivor's lounge thread somewhere. But first, where was that other thread about fixing my blank screen? :D

[juddy]

How much is the upgrade???



Just pre-ordered the Snow Leopard upgrade.

More features - heaps faster - easier for the end user ... AND ... smaller footprint = 7GB more space on my HD!

:clap2:

Brilliant!

Cheers,
Daniel

[Mulgo]

How much is the upgrade???

AU$39.00 (incl. GST)

[juddy]

AU$39.00 (incl. GST)


Is that on line or via disk?

[Ferret]

I'm getting my PC back out - it's clearly the way forward.

Good to see ya getting with it :D:D:D:D

[Scallops]

AU$39.00 (incl. GST)

Can you direct me to where I might buy it too, please? :angel:


Good to see ya getting with it :D:D:D:D

:D:)

[juddy]

AU$39.00 (incl. GST)

$29 from Apples on line store...

[incisor]

only if your silly enough to go to the US store.. the AU store says 39

i have stock coming in early next week of the OS and the upgrade pack with ilife and iworks etc.

[Scallops]

only if your silly enough to go to the US store.. the AU store says 39

i have stock coming in early next week of the OS and the upgrade pack with ilife and iworks etc.

Dave - is the upgrade pack an extra to the $39.00? If so, how much is it?

Buying from you, do I need to preorder the OS as Mulgo has? And can I order it all through your online store? :angel:

[Mulgo]

Can you direct me to where I might buy it too, please? :angel:

Either you buy it through Incisor or via Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard - Apple Store (Australia) (http://store.apple.com/au/product/MAC_OS_X_SNGL)

Cheers,
Daniel

[incisor]

the box set with iworks and ilife etc etc is AU$229

Mac Box Set - Apple Store (Australia) (http://store.apple.com/au/product/MC209Z/A)

[incisor]

And can I order it all through your online store? :angel:

nah, you get to ring me or give me your number so i can ring you :P

[Scallops]

Thanks Dave - I'm sorted - Snow Leopard here I come. Looking forward to a true 64 bit world. :)

[Captain_Rightfoot]

I'm converted, SWMBO bought a macbook on the weekend, after mucking around with PCs of all descriptions since about 1986 it's just so easy to use and just works............
The last Apple I played with was a IIGS, theyve coe a way since then:D

Regards,
Tote
And what you don't know, and will be totally lost on the PC fans is that how your mac runs now should pretty much be how it runs for it's whole life. In my experience they don't slow or wither with age like PC's. If you patch a mac you usually won't notice it - or if you do it will be an improvement.

I am yet to meet someone who has done an wipe and OS re-install on a mac for a legitimate reason. The OS should last the life of the computer.

[Mick-Kelly]

And its the only upgrade of an OS that actually uses less hard disk space than the previous. 64 bit sounds nice an tempting but i am most interested in the potential ram upgrades, though how much ram do you actually need.

[Captain_Rightfoot]

We just checked and Weeds can get his copy of snow leopard for the princely sum of 14.95 (http://www.apple.com/au/macosx/uptodate/). :)

[weeds]

We just checked and Weeds can get his copy of snow leopard for the princely sum of 14.95 (http://www.apple.com/au/macosx/uptodate/). :)

thanks for the call last night steve.........i purchased it

found my other parcel as well, didn't need to do anything as it was all sorted at time of purchase

[Mulgo]

just completed the installation. It always amazes me how smoothly all works with Apple!

[Captain_Rightfoot]

So, has anyone installed snow leopard yet? :)

[chook73]

Yep installed it on Saturday on two machines, takes about 45 minutes and free's up a heap of HD space. I got about 6GB on one and nearly 7GB on the other.

Also boots sooooo much faster!!!! :banana:

[Ferret]

I got about 6GB on one and nearly 7GB on the other.

Maybe not. I believe Apple have just redefined what a gigabyte is, ie how many bytes actually comprise a gigabyte. The merits or otherwise of this I'll let others debate, since their not the only ones doing it.

[Mulgo]

just completed the installation. It always amazes me how smoothly all works with Apple!

done on friday

[Scallops]

Maybe not. I believe Apple have just redefined what a gigabyte is, ie how many bytes actually comprise a gigabyte. The merits or otherwise of this I'll let others debate, since their not the only ones doing it.

:Rolling::D:Rolling:

Classic. Cancel my order. I seeeeeeeeeeee the light.

[weeds]

i am about to load Snow Leopard......if you don't see me back online tonight you will know why

[Captain_Rightfoot]

i am about to load Snow Leopard......if you don't see me back online tonight you will know why

Tell me the big cat hasn't bitten off more than Weeds can chew! :eek:

[weeds]

Tell me the big cat hasn't bitten off more than Weeds can chew! :eek:

nope....all good, i'm back better than ever along with a bit of extra disc space:p

[simonl8353]

last month I threw out the old PC and bought a 24" iMac ... Wow :o absolutely brilliant.

Ordered Snow Leopard today for $14.95, a reduced price Apple offer if you bought close to the role out date (28 Aug I think)

with 640GB HDD who cares about another 7 being freed up, but I'll take it :p

[Captain_Rightfoot]

I'm about to install the Mac Box Set. Wish me luck :o

[Captain_Rightfoot]

I just opened the packaging. It comes on one DVD :o

[Captain_Rightfoot]

Well everything is upgraded now. Snow Leopard, ilife and iwork. The only thing that isn't done is iphoto is going through all our photos and recognising faces...

Strangely we've gone from 6gb free to 14gb free. I'm not sure whether that's due to change in GB sizes but it looks like the pie available is much bigger.

Dull.. :)

[Tombie]

What change in Gb sizes?

Apple has always referred to the *correct* definition of a Gb.. Apologies, I see it now....


(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numerical_prefix)Prefixes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numerical_prefix) for bytes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byte) are now used in strictly decimal meaning when describing disk space, such that an indicated file size of 1 MB corresponds to 1,000,000 bytes, as commonly used by hard disk manufacturers.

Its the mutated system used elsewhere that reads wrong.. And why your HDD in your PC always reports smaller than what you purchased!


Consumer confusion

Since the early 2000s most consumer hard drive (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_drive) capacities are grouped in certain size classes measured in gigabytes. The exact capacity of a given drive is usually some number above or below the class designation. Although most manufacturers of hard disk drives and flash-memory disk devices define 1 gigabyte as 1000000000bytes, the computer operating systems used by most users (with the notable exception of Mac OS X 10.6 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X_10.6)) usually calculate size in gibibytes by dividing the total capacity in bytes (whether it is disk capacity, file size, or system RAM) by 1073741824, but report the result with the symbol GB. This practice can be a cause of confusion, as a hard disk with a manufacturer-rated capacity of 400 gigabytes may be reported by the operating system as only 372 GB.
The JEDEC memory standards (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JEDEC_memory_standards) uses the IEEE 100 nomenclatures which defines a gigabyte as 1073741824bytes (or 230 bytes).[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigabyte#cite_note-0)

[samuelclarke]

...though how much ram do you actually need.

For most usage 2GB of RAM is adequate, and 4GB is the sweet spot (based on performance vs. cost) with current Macs.

I've got 4GB in my MacBook Pro - I'm a media pro (photography/design + advertising/marketing), and find for about 50-70% of the work I do it's fine...though I'll be upgrading to 8GB when prices come down a bit more. (4GB of laptop RAM (DDR3) is around $200 atm - 8GB is $900-$1400!

[disco2hse]

For most usage 2GB of RAM is adequate, and 4GB is the sweet spot (based on performance vs. cost) with current Macs.

I've got 4GB in my MacBook Pro - I'm a media pro (photography/design + advertising/marketing), and find for about 50-70% of the work I do it's fine...though I'll be upgrading to 8GB when prices come down a bit more. (4GB of laptop RAM (DDR3) is around $200 atm - 8GB is $900-$1400!

Do you think that much RAM is going to make a lot of difference performance-wise? I mean, the CPU clock speed outweighs RAMs I/O rates and there is a point at which the amount of data required to be transferred between RAM and CPU negates the addition of more RAM. However if you are editing large image/video files then having them in RAM will be an advantage (at least 3x the size of opened images in Photoshop is normally what I consider).

Alan

[disco2hse]

Hmm. Never let a silver-lining mask the fact there is yet a cloud that surrounds it :mad:

Snow Leopard does not support older versions of Appletalk and as a result I cannot use it to connect to Novell shares at work. aaargh, that is so annoying. Now I have to use SMB. aaargh that is sooo Microsoft https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/09/877.jpg

One of the main differences is that passwords are no longer sent in clear text, which is a very good thing. I can change the preferences to allow transmission of clear text passwords and authorisation is completed but authentication by Novell is not completed. dammit.

Alan

[samuelclarke]

Do you think that much RAM is going to make a lot of difference performance-wise? I mean, the CPU clock speed outweighs RAMs I/O rates and there is a point at which the amount of data required to be transferred between RAM and CPU negates the addition of more RAM. However if you are editing large image/video files then having them in RAM will be an advantage (at least 3x the size of opened images in Photoshop is normally what I consider).

Alan

You're right it does depend on the CPU speed of you Mac to a degree. However, any mac from the last say 3 years no matter what its CPU speed is going to benefit from more RAM - in the range of the current sweet spot. IMO, 2GB is the minimum for either 10.5 or 10.6 versions of Mac OS X - I have only two programs open at the moment - Safari and Mail - and the OS is using around 1.5GB. RAM is drastically faster than the hard drive, so if a program can run in just RAM then you will see performance gains.

[Lightweight]

Has anyone used Snow Leopard Server yet?? Still contemplating on giving it a go. I love the features of ESX, but i would love to have a big fat x-serve running, without any VM's having to run 5 separate Win Server hosts, just to run AD, Exchange, File and Print, ISA... blah, blah, blah! I really like the collaboration features, but it is a big move...

[350RRC]

Getting back OT.........

Since installing snow leopard, a full shutdown and reboot is no more than 35 secs.

PC users?

The only times I have to do this is when I have a lot of apps open (Word, XL, Photoshop, iPhoto, etc) and my basic Macbook does a sooky la la when writing a report.

No loss of where I'm up to on reboot.

cheers, DL

[dmdigital]

Well I just ordered Snow Leopard for the iMac and MBP. Unfortunately I missed the 90 days from purchase offer cut-off of the $14.95 upgrade for the MBP as I didn't know about this whilst I was travelling. Anyway ordered the family pack for $69 so it hasn't cost me that much more.

My wife's also now set on a 15" MBP to replace her Toshiba as it's in need of at least a rebuild and a new battery pack.