Puma owners - important message

[carjunkieanon]

No matter how I do the maths, I can't afford a new Puma in the foreseeable future.

So, all you lucky folks out there who own a Puma - please keep it in good condition.

I know you plan to keep them until you die, but when you die, me and my sons (who will grow up scouring the classifieds) will be right there to check out the vehicle you leave behind.

Dings and dents are OK, but please don't do any unnecessary damage, especially to the interior. You've had the pleasure of a new car, when we buy a second or third hand one, we'd appreciate it if it wasn't too obviously second hand.

Enjoy yours while you have them, but keep in mind those who come after.

Cheers,
Rick

[solmanic]

Righto!
I'll stick a Dymo label with you name on the dash so you're not forgotten, although you may wish to find an older, more decrepit owner if you want one before about 2050. Suggest you try Scallops - he's at least over 40 :p.

[Allan]

If I sold you mine the wife would devorce me, then I would have to work full time:mad: and my son would disown me then I would loose the ability to get cheep parts,:twisted: so go away:D:D:D:D:D

Allan

[Scallops]

Although my learned colleague Solmanic is right regarding my age, it has been stipulated in my will that my Puma is to become my eternal tomb - so if you want it, you'll have to put up with me back seat driving from beyond the grave :eek: - I suggest you try JohnR - cos although his Puma will take you just about anywhere, because it's black it might not get past the pearly gates. :D :p

[one_iota]

Sorry Rick,

You'll just have to covet mine from afar.

(One of the benefits of the Puma is its low first gear in King Street traffic)

No intentions of selling and I'm much older than Solmanic and even Scallops.

[solmanic]

...it has been stipulated in my will that my Puma is to become my eternal tomb .


... No intentions of selling and I'm much older than Solmanic and even Scallops.

Wow. I wonder how many of us are planning to take our vehicles to the grave? I'm thinking of getting my father-in-law who is a retired Minister to bless mine so I can enjoy it in the Eternal Kingdom :angel:. At the very least I would hope to get good mileage and some reliability.

[one_iota]

In the distant future puzzled Archaeologists will be disinterring skeletons of old men buried in their Pumas surrounded by their other earthly goods:

Flyfishing gear, Sidchrome Socket Sets and bottles of Coopers Sparkling Ale and occasionally tools of their profession: Rotring drawing pens or geologist's hammers

[JamesH]

So do we have a good advertising concept?

We've all seen the magazine ad' "You never actually own a Patek Phillipe. You merely look after it for the next generation"

How do we advertise the Defender?

"You do actually own your Defender, and you can take it with you. Let them get their own"

[carjunkieanon]

(One of the benefits of the Puma is its low first gear in King Street traffic)



Is yours the kitted out silver one I've waved frantically at on several occasions?

If you see an arm waving from a dusty green corrolla up the city rd end, pull over and let me covet.

[Grockle]

Sorry Rick, ours is going to daughter Alex ;)

[Chops]

Ok guys,,
Im only a beat-up-ole-disco driver ;), but wanting a defender soonish :D,,,
So what is it that makes a "puma" a puma as oppossed to a defender, whats different or special about them please??

Chops

[Scallops]

Ok guys,,
Im only a beat-up-ole-disco driver ;), but wanting a defender soonish :D,,,
So what is it that makes a "puma" a puma as oppossed to a defender, whats different or special about them please??

Chops

The Puma moves you closer to the higher being, as it comes standard with a "golden telephone" - the direct comms link with your chosen deity.

PS - actually, it is just what folks are calling the latest 4 cylinder common rail, ford derived engined Defender.

[one_iota]

Is yours the kitted out silver one I've waved frantically at on several occasions?

If you see an arm waving from a dusty green corrolla up the city rd end, pull over and let me covet.

No not me. Mine's a white one with AULRO plates. Is that that the silver one with a roof rack and roof tent?

I'll keep an eye out for a waving Defender candidate in a green Corolla. :)

[Chops]

The Puma moves you closer to the higher being, as it comes standard with a "golden telephone" - the direct comms link with your chosen deity.

PS - actually, it is just what folks are calling the latest 4 cylinder common rail, ford derived engined Defender.

hummm,,, needing all the help I can get, I guess I should save my $$,,:angel:

So who came up with the name,, its kinda cool,, Theres no way I can afford one, so it"ll be just an old defer for me,,:D

Thanks,, Chops

[spudboy]

Well I am just about 50, so shouldn't be too much longer before I fall off the perch :D

You'll have to fight my daughter for it though. She seems pretty keen on getting her hands on it when I kick the bucket!

[one_iota]

So who came up with the name,, its kinda cool,,



We blame Ford:

Ford Duratorq engine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



The Puma tag was also used by Siddley for its aircraft engine:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/08/594.jpg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4f/Siddeley_Puma_ExCC.jpg)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siddeley_Puma



I suppose we can be thankful we didn't get that.

[spudboy]

Mine was an early 2007 PUMA, and the engine looks just like this:
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/08/594.jpg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4f/Siddeley_Puma_ExCC.jpg)

Do you guys have something different?

[solmanic]

Mine was an early 2007 PUMA, and the engine looks just like this:
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/08/594.jpg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4f/Siddeley_Puma_ExCC.jpg)

Do you guys have something different?

No, I think mine is about the same, just with more plastic on the top and a different sump design :p.

[WedWon]

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[disco2hse]

No, I think mine is about the same, just with more plastic on the top and a different sump design :p.

And with a curious cup holder on the top of the engine. They even thought of the mechanic :D

Alan

[Allan]

Is that what that is. I thought it was to catch all the loose bolts. May use it as a cup holder now when on a run, novel look could start a fashion statement

Allan

[clean32]

Sorry Rick, ours is going to daughter Alex ;)

is she of marriageable age, is she good looking? nope that doint matter. is she of marriageable age?

[JamesH]

Those pictures of the puma engine certainly explain the bonnet hump.;)

Pity about that hump though. Nice car as it is I miss the flaps and the bonnet mount.

J

[clean32]

Ok guys,,
Im only a beat-up-ole-disco driver ;), but wanting a defender soonish :D,,,
So what is it that makes a "puma" a puma as oppossed to a defender, whats different or special about them please??

Chops
it goes a bit like this for the 110, that came out after the S3, some of the latter S3 have exactly the same trim as the first 110 but are on leaf springs.

110 with 3.9 isuzu diesel or 3.5 V8, with carpet its a county without its a 110
the isuzu is the best power-plant combo ever fitted to a landy

Next they took out the good CVs, moved the backseat forward ( for midgets) changed the dash removed the galvanized bits and fitted the 200tdi, possibly the best of the last of they pommy diesels. this is called the 110 tdi 200 and is quite a good machine but not as good as an county

a bit latter they decide to degrade the 200 TDI and call it the 300TDI, by upping the turbo pressure and fitting a stupid P gasket, paper head gasket and a mechanical vacuum pump/ oil dispenser and the insistently squeaky serpentine belt, about this time they also removed the Salisbury dif and replaced it with a wooden one, possibly to bring some manufacturing back to pommy land because the 300tdi was built in Brazil. this model is known as the 110 Brazilian but as most 300tdi drivers are bald or are going bald or just hide there nogons under an Akubra the term Brazilian is not in common use as it can lead to some confusion as to which way is up or down. a problem that county owners do not have to contend with.

seeing a good thing and as revenge for 1876 1918 and 1945 the kurats got involved, obviously they didn't assign there best team to the 110 job, infact the team they assigned coudint even count the result is 5 cylinders but only 4 pre heaters?and as to running wires inside the motor well?? this incarnation instead of calling the TDi 400 had to be different an just to shame all drivers of the model they stick a sticker on the back saying TD5 just to remind everyone of the joke up front. not happy with just playing with the pommy market they decide to have a go at the Yankee market as well.harking back to the days of the Kaisers influence and calling up Mexico's promise to invade the USA. Mexico obliged by sending up the 3 amigos. these professional international industrial saboteurs play havoc with that dash board lights. setting them off and flashing at the predetermined most inconvenienced times.
at this point most 110 TD5 drivers wished they had a county.

and now we are at the puma. the 110 having losed all is good bits due to a pommy engineer slipping with his razor while trying to do a Brazilian or the krauts revenge. they tried to slip in a Van motor, possibly to attract the van driver bunch in to 4 wheel driving, and why not? most courier drivers coudint tell the difference between city driving screaming though the pommy green lanes. but as to why the called it a puma which is more commonly black where vans are more commonly white? or maybe they were harking back to the south american market with dreams of a Brazilian. who knows but now the 110 was to light and was much to fast for the normal Van driver so they need to add weight. they did this by adding miles of copper wire, and when i said miles i mean kilometers. and guess what it worked slowing the 110s performance down to just a fraction above what a countys original performance is, that is with out the towing and bottom end grunt etc.


i hope this answers your question

[carjunkieanon]

Sounds like I'd better inherit your county instead!





it goes a bit like this for the 110, that came out after the S3, some of the latter S3 have exactly the same trim as the first 110 but are on leaf springs.

110 with 3.9 isuzu diesel or 3.5 V8, with carpet its a county without its a 110
the isuzu is the best power-plant combo ever fitted to a landy

Next they took out the good CVs, moved the backseat forward ( for midgets) changed the dash removed the galvanized bits and fitted the 200tdi, possibly the best of the last of they pommy diesels. this is called the 110 tdi 200 and is quite a good machine but not as good as an county

a bit latter they decide to degrade the 200 TDI and call it the 300TDI, by upping the turbo pressure and fitting a stupid P gasket, paper head gasket and a mechanical vacuum pump/ oil dispenser and the insistently squeaky serpentine belt, about this time they also removed the Salisbury dif and replaced it with a wooden one, possibly to bring some manufacturing back to pommy land because the 300tdi was built in Brazil. this model is known as the 110 Brazilian but as most 300tdi drivers are bald or are going bald or just hide there nogons under an Akubra the term Brazilian is not in common use as it can lead to some confusion as to which way is up or down. a problem that county owners do not have to contend with.

seeing a good thing and as revenge for 1876 1918 and 1945 the kurats got involved, obviously they didn't assign there best team to the 110 job, infact the team they assigned coudint even count the result is 5 cylinders but only 4 pre heaters?and as to running wires inside the motor well?? this incarnation instead of calling the TDi 400 had to be different an just to shame all drivers of the model they stick a sticker on the back saying TD5 just to remind everyone of the joke up front. not happy with just playing with the pommy market they decide to have a go at the Yankee market as well.harking back to the days of the Kaisers influence and calling up Mexico's promise to invade the USA. Mexico obliged by sending up the 3 amigos. these professional international industrial saboteurs play havoc with that dash board lights. setting them off and flashing at the predetermined most inconvenienced times.
at this point most 110 TD5 drivers wished they had a county.

and now we are at the puma. the 110 having losed all is good bits due to a pommy engineer slipping with his razor while trying to do a Brazilian or the krauts revenge. they tried to slip in a Van motor, possibly to attract the van driver bunch in to 4 wheel driving, and why not? most courier drivers coudint tell the difference between city driving screaming though the pommy green lanes. but as to why the called it a puma which is more commonly black where vans are more commonly white? or maybe they were harking back to the south american market with dreams of a Brazilian. who knows but now the 110 was to light and was much to fast for the normal Van driver so they need to add weight. they did this by adding miles of copper wire, and when i said miles i mean kilometers. and guess what it worked slowing the 110s performance down to just a fraction above what a countys original performance is, that is with out the towing and bottom end grunt etc.


i hope this answers your question

[Bush65]

[Ted Bullpit Voice on] your not getting the Isuzu!!! [/Ted Bullpit Voice off] :twisted:

But you can have all pumas with my name on them :D

[clean32]

Sounds like I'd better inherit your county instead!

Not going to happen. Thats why the Draw is 6'2" long 4'4" wide and rated for 122KG

[one_iota]

Sounds like I'd better inherit your county instead!

Nope he's going to be buried in his too...that is if the lowest common Defender denominator (corrosion) doesn't bury it first....and that will happen on his before it happens on the current model (by about 20 years give or take)

[one_iota]

Yes there are a lot of variables.

My cousin's county was used to launch ships so it had a couple of rear crossmember connected to chassis issues. But the mix of aluminium skins and steel frames in the doors was always going to be a time bomb, county or earlier defender equally. We've spent many a jolly blacksmithing hour dealing with red rot in foot wells and at the base of the B and C pillars. No sign of that in mine yet :p;)

[George130]

Not going to happen. Thats why the Draw is 6'2" long 4'4" wide and rated for 122KG

I have 2 smaller ones for the kids.



Now I have to get a thid draw.:angel:

[one_iota]

Have you considered one of those Thule roof capsules..you know the ones usually used for transporting Granny on top of the Subaru.

[carjunkieanon]

Gentlemen, saddened as I am at the thought of so many vehicles being buried forever, they do make a fitting sarcophagus. I'm sure the Pharaoh's of Egypt or the Vikings of old would rather be interred in a Land Rover than a cramped mummy coffin or burnt on a long boat.

Thank you too for your kind invitations to visit and see the vehicles I'll never own.

Here's my final plan (for today).

Keep the dusty green Corrolla forever - we all need a reliable car to pick up parts in when the Land Rover fails to proceed. The Corrolla isn't worth selling as it's been in the family since new and has a perfect service history (Thanks Dave & Joe at Malcolm Motors Newtown). I'd happily be buried in a Corrolla so my kids can get the Land Rovers...

I finish my 4 year BDiv in November and start a job as an assistant minister in Sydney's North West in 2010. Use the car allowance to finance (minister's don't earn much) a '04 TD5 Discovery - auto. This will adequately do as a family car for a few years. My wife (whose never driven a manual) was quite taken by the Disco on a recent ride in one.

Then, when we can afford it, buy at TD5 Defender. Paint it olive green with black rims. Kit it and the Disco up with the same wheels & tires. Now we have two TD5's - auto for her, manual for me, and 10 seats across both cars for our hoped for family of 8 - 2 adults, 6 kids (one gone before us (joined the forum to assuage the grief), one keeping us up at night now, and another due March 2010 - so 4 more to go), this will give us plenty of load space.

Now we can do family trips around Australia taking both cars. We'll take up those offers of BBQ's, and enjoy seeing other people's rigs.

Eventually I'll create a position as Anglican Chaplain to the 4wd clubs of Australia so I can spend my time visiting club meets.

As you all start to die off, I'll happily come and conduct your funerals (no fee), and make sure you are interred in your Land Rover's as you wish.

Plan B is to win some money and buy a Puma.

Your thoughts?

Rick

ps. haven't been on Ebay for a while (KitBag (http://www.kitbag.com.au) instead), but buying history has nothing poisonous. Just Opinel knife, Maglite etc. The usual stuff.

[isuzurover]

[Ted Bullpit Voice on] your not getting the Isuzu!!! [/Ted Bullpit Voice off] :twisted:

But you can have all pumas with my name on them :D

Showing your age there John!!!

Can I get first in line for your Rangie ? ;)

[Bush65]

Showing your age there John!!!

Can I get first in line for your Rangie ? ;)
It should outlast me, and I won't need it when I'm gone. I hope it goes to a good home.

[solmanic]

I finish my 4 year BDiv in November and start a job as an assistant minister in Sydney's North West in 2010. Use the car allowance to finance (minister's don't earn much) ...

Eventually I'll create a position as Anglican Chaplain to the 4wd clubs of Australia so I can spend my time visiting club meets.

Firstly, you may be in the wrong denomination. In my experience Anglicans are just not that "into" cars (old vintage ones maybe, but not the kind that are more closely aligned with satan - eg 4WDs and muscle cars). Maybe try switching to a more charismatic brand (AOG or COC). In fact if you go the whole hog and start your own Hillsong style church then your money woes will also disappear ;).

Regardless, when you get inducted as a fully fledged minister of your own congregation, just start a parish 4WD club. I'm sure generous parishoners will be willing to assist their minister in this important "outreach" activity ;). Just make sure you score a congregation with a few Land Rover drivers. Better still, try for a rural placement. Even though I'm sure the church might try to stick you in a 'Cruiser, if you offer to use your own car then the vehicle allowance may actually cover a nice new Defender.

[carjunkieanon]

Firstly, you may be in the wrong denomination. In my experience Anglicans are just not that "into" cars (old vintage ones maybe, but not the kind that are more closely aligned with satan - eg 4WDs and muscle cars). Maybe try switching to a more charismatic brand (AOG or COC). In fact if you go the whole hog and start your own Hillsong style church then your money woes will also disappear ;).

Regardless, when you get inducted as a fully fledged minister of your own congregation, just start a parish 4WD club. I'm sure generous parishoners will be willing to assist their minister in this important "outreach" activity ;). Just make sure you score a congregation with a few Land Rover drivers. Better still, try for a rural placement. Even though I'm sure the church might try to stick you in a 'Cruiser, if you offer to use your own car then the vehicle allowance may actually cover a nice new Defender.


Yeah, there are some denominations/churches that happily say 'the more you give, the more God will give you'. You can tell them because the pastors have several expensive cars in the garages of their expensive houses. Not sure I can prostitute my beliefs in this way tho :)

As an Anglican I think I get about $7K/year car allowance to spend on fuel/insurance/repayments etc. Could prob afford a $18K car over 3 years.

I'll definitely look to start a 4wd club. (Actually, while looking for a job I had a chat with the guy at Richmond Anglican (Ford Maverick owner), they have a club and have done trips to the cape, and the centre. There's a church club in Dundas also).

Rick

[Bush65]

Yeah, there are some denominations/churches that happily say 'the more you give, the more God will give you'. You can tell them because the pastors have several expensive cars in the garages of their expensive houses. Not sure I can prostitute my beliefs in this way tho :)

As an Anglican I think I get about $7K/year car allowance to spend on fuel/insurance/repayments etc. Could prob afford a $18K car over 3 years.

I'll definitely look to start a 4wd club. (Actually, while looking for a job I had a chat with the guy at Richmond Anglican (Ford Maverick owner), they have a club and have done trips to the cape, and the centre. There's a church club in Dundas also).

Rick
You should look into Trax Fellowship 4WD Club attached to the Pennant Hills Anglican Church, St Marks.

President Neil Flower is also a member of the Land Rover Owners club.

They have structured their constitution to enable Trax Fellowship to be easily formed in other locations. From memory, I believe Neil said they have several now.

[carjunkieanon]

You should look into Trax Fellowship 4WD Club attached to the Pennant Hills Anglican Church, St Marks.

President Neil Flower is also a member of the Land Rover Owners club.

They have structured their constitution to enable Trax Fellowship to be easily formed in other locations. From memory, I believe Neil said they have several now.

Thanks for letting me know. One of my mates is going to St Marks, I'll Trax (heh) it down through him. I'll be just up the road at Normanhurst. Glad someone's already well ahead of me in making my ideas a reality.

Rick

[dullbird]

It should outlast me, and I won't need it when I'm gone. I hope it goes to a good home.


I hate rangies but ok I'll have the car and the Khan:D

[dullbird]

Sorry some posts have been deleted due to there irrelevance and some people not being able to control themselves

[abaddonxi]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/03/1206.jpg

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Thing you better check your camera John, look like your wide angle is distorting a bit.:p

BTW looks pretty fine to me.

[Scallops]

This is so very exciting - this thread is turning into our own "Stars" thread, in the Defender section! :D

Aren't we all so cool online? :p

[Grockle]

A Captain from the Church Army who came to see us at our youth club many years ago had a Series 2a (with genuine LR chrome hub caps) whilst spreading the good word off road !

[Allan]

G-d
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