View Full Version : Another "yuppie hippy" based profiteering con
dobbo
27th August 2009, 09:44 AM
How come a supermarket chain that has recently stopped supplying the consumer free plastic bags (that 90% of which would get recycled as garbage bags) will sell you a reusable "green bag" for $1 yet they will not supply a used cardboard box to transport your groceries?
They could even selling a used box for 20c, surely Visy would not pay that much.
Just another "green con"?
stevo68
27th August 2009, 09:52 AM
I wonder if same chain that one now has to make sure you have a gold coin donation to use their freakin shopping trolleys. Easy option now is to just go to the other major where you don't have to faff about with gold coins...poor old folk trying to work out why they have 5 trolleys tied together etc. Hopefully soon...next 12/ 18 mths...I wont have to worry about supermarkets....will be growing and slaughtering my own and can chuck produce in anything I damn want :)
Regards
Stevo
dobbo
27th August 2009, 10:00 AM
Hopefully soon...next 12/ 18 mths...I wont have to worry about supermarkets....will be growing and slaughtering my own and can chuck produce in anything I damn want :)
Regards
Stevo
Interesting, you breed them, claim a baby bonus to feed them for the 18mths, then it's happy farm time and the freezers are stocked.
Living like kings whilst eating like Gerbils.
To sensitive readers this is a joke, I am not implying that stevo eats his young nor do I endorse anyone who does
stevo68
27th August 2009, 10:13 AM
Interesting, you breed them, claim a baby bonus to feed them for the 18mths, then it's happy farm time and the freezers are stocked.
Living like kings whilst eating like Gerbils.
To sensitive readers this is a joke, I am not implying that stevo eats his young nor do I endorse anyone who does Maybe I havent had enough coffee...but What THA??? You've lost me as it doesn't make sense or has a hidden meaning which I am not grasping,
Regards
Stevo
George130
27th August 2009, 10:32 AM
How come a supermarket chain that has recently stopped supplying the consumer free plastic bags (that 90% of which would get recycled as garbage bags) will sell you a reusable "green bag" for $1 yet they will not supply a used cardboard box to transport your groceries?
They could even selling a used box for 20c, surely Visy would not pay that much.
Just another "green con"?
This is not about being enviro friendly but making people feel green.
abaddonxi
27th August 2009, 10:37 AM
I feel green, but that may be because I haven't brushed my teeth yet.
Anyone else share my concern that not enough is being done solve the toothbrush recycling problem?
abaddonxi
27th August 2009, 10:38 AM
And don't think big brother isn't watching, two ads from the top of the page.:p
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dobbo
27th August 2009, 10:47 AM
Anyone else share my concern that not enough is being done solve the toothbrush recycling problem?
Would you like me to post one out to you?
I keep old brushes I find at the tip, I sharpen them up to be used as shivs. My neighbours pay top dollar for a shiv with a strangers D.N.A on it
;)
stevo68
27th August 2009, 10:55 AM
Maybe I havent had enough coffee...but What THA??? You've lost me as it doesn't make sense or has a hidden meaning which I am not grasping,
Regards
Stevo Ok......had to use outside sources so I could understand ;). As for toothbrushes....mine has a nice green round the base of the bristles :eek:
Regards
Stevo
Outlaw
27th August 2009, 10:57 AM
:Rolling:
DeanoH
27th August 2009, 04:18 PM
Is that 'Soylent Green' ?
Deano
isuzurover
27th August 2009, 04:25 PM
Interesting, you breed them, claim a baby bonus to feed them for the 18mths, then it's happy farm time and the freezers are stocked.
Living like kings whilst eating like Gerbils.
To sensitive readers this is a joke, I am not implying that stevo eats his young nor do I endorse anyone who does
:Rolling: Very wrong but oh so funny...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/14/SolyentGreen28d.png
Chucaro
27th August 2009, 04:26 PM
I wonder if same chain that one now has to make sure you have a gold coin donation to use their freakin shopping trolleys. Easy option now is to just go to the other major where you don't have to faff about with gold coins...poor old folk trying to work out why they have 5 trolleys tied together etc. Hopefully soon...next 12/ 18 mths...I wont have to worry about supermarkets....will be growing and slaughtering my own and can chuck produce in anything I damn want :)
Regards
Stevo
Destination Nimbin :angel: :D
Good on you mate, the life out of the city jungle is heaps better for the family life.
Chucaro
27th August 2009, 04:29 PM
How come a supermarket chain that has recently stopped supplying the consumer free plastic bags (that 90% of which would get recycled as garbage bags) will sell you a reusable "green bag" for $1 yet they will not supply a used cardboard box to transport your groceries?
They could even selling a used box for 20c, surely Visy would not pay that much.
Just another "green con"?
What I cannot undesrtand is why they do not giving plastic bags claiming that it is bad for the enviroment but they sell them for any kind of use :angel:
ramblingboy42
27th August 2009, 04:41 PM
I saw a tv doco that looked at the shopping bag alternatives and after doing all the homework on power usage, usefull life, environmental emissions during manufacture, recyclability etc the plastic shopping bag won out hands down.....its like the toyota prius.....the total manufacturing/enerygy cost/recyclability footprint is so big it should be banned
dont feel guilty about using plastic shopping bags....in the long run they are better. not my words, the findings of the doco.....wish I could remember it
rick130
27th August 2009, 06:18 PM
I saw a tv doco that looked at the shopping bag alternatives and after doing all the homework on power usage, usefull life, environmental emissions during manufacture, recyclability etc the plastic shopping bag won out hands down.....its like the toyota prius.....the total manufacturing/enerygy cost/recyclability footprint is so big it should be banned
dont feel guilty about using plastic shopping bags....in the long run they are better. not my words, the findings of the doco.....wish I could remember it
But the vast majority don't want to hear that, it's all about perception and being seen to do the right thing, not actually doing the right thing. ;)
one_iota
27th August 2009, 06:38 PM
Indeed the humble plastic bag is the least of our worries in the scheme of things.
It's just that they are conspicuous and can be railed against just like the 4wd in the city debate :wasntme:
I brought my green bags with me and therefore I'm more responsible than you :p
amtravic1
27th August 2009, 07:25 PM
I went to Target a few weeks ago and bought my kids a heap of clothes. At the checkout the girl asked if I wanted plastic bags at 10c each for my purchase. I said no, put the clothes I have selected in the bags at no cost. She said she could not do that so I walked out and left everything I had just selected on the counter.
I see it as just another way to rip off the consumer. Those bags would cost a fraction of a cent each yet they want 10c each for them. A massive profit for the store.
DeanoH
27th August 2009, 08:33 PM
I'm with you amtravic1, same story with the 10 cent bags for a dollar at the supermarket. Just another way for the big chains to provide less service and rip the customer off whilst pretending to be 'green' and friendly.
Same with the trolleys. Why manage them properly when money can be saved putting trolley collectors out of work and passing the responsibility for trolley management on to the customer.
My missus won't take me to the supermarket because I flatly refuse to pay for the privelige of using a trolley. I keep a pair of mini 8" bolt cutters in the car and Kayes not game to see if I'd use them.
Deano
carjunkieanon
27th August 2009, 09:04 PM
This is not about being enviro friendly but making people feel green.
Speaking of which, my mum's been so influenced by the green stuff that when she heard I was thinking diesel she found and printed out something about how bad diesel is for the environment. I love my mum, but I didn't read it!
stevo68
28th August 2009, 11:07 AM
Destination Nimbin :angel: :D
Good on you mate, the life out of the city jungle is heaps better for the family life. Nah not Nimbin:o......a visit there was once enough:D. Nah looking more out west....where and I will clarify this time :p.....breeding farm animals of various descriptions....my breeding of the human kind is over and done with. 4 of my own....5 between me and the missus is my part for mankind done. I'm over "city" life and want to head out country and do something different...not just for me...but for family/ children. Got heaps to do between now and then..so best get back to it :),
Regards
Stevo
Chucaro
28th August 2009, 12:08 PM
Nah not Nimbin:o......a visit there was once enough:D. Nah looking more out west....where and I will clarify this time :p.....breeding farm animals of various descriptions....my breeding of the human kind is over and done with. 4 of my own....5 between me and the missus is my part for mankind done. I'm over "city" life and want to head out country and do something different...not just for me...but for family/ children. Got heaps to do between now and then..so best get back to it :),
Regards
Stevo
Back in early 90's I left Sydney and bought 27 acres in Childers, Qld with the intention of stablishing a dairy goats farm and produce cheese for the Oz market.
My back say "no way Jose" and I have the sell the farm before start my dream.:(
Now my wife and I just enjoy life :)
stevo68
28th August 2009, 04:25 PM
Back in early 90's I left Sydney and bought 27 acres in Childers, Qld with the intention of stablishing a dairy goats farm and produce cheese for the Oz market.
My back say "no way Jose" and I have the sell the farm before start my dream.:(
Now my wife and I just enjoy life :) Ah thats a bugger...I am actually looking to going into meat goats myself..best keep an eye on my back:). Good that you found another dream thats the main thing,
Regards
Stevo
p38arover
28th August 2009, 05:45 PM
I wonder if same chain that one now has to make sure you have a gold coin donation to use their freakin shopping trolleys.
And the problem is?
You get the money back when you return the trolley.
I've seen people steal trolleys and put them onto trains to take their shopping home. I see them take them home, empty them out, then push the trolley out into the street, a long way from the shop. I see them dumped in the local creek. I don't blame the supermarkets for wanting a token.
Aldi offer a key ring token which can be used instead of a gold coin.
(No, I don't shop at Aldi.)
I'd like to see more of the trolleys that lock their wheels when people try to take them out of the shopping centre car park.
stevo68
28th August 2009, 07:53 PM
And the problem is?
You get the money back when you return the trolley.
I've seen people steal trolleys and put them onto trains to take their shopping home. I see them take them home, empty them out, then push the trolley out into the street, a long way from the shop. I see them dumped in the local creek. I don't blame the supermarkets for wanting a token.
Aldi offer a key ring token which can be used instead of a gold coin.
(No, I don't shop at Aldi.)
I'd like to see more of the trolleys that lock their wheels when people try to take them out of the shopping centre car park. The problem is for one it is a target against the majority not the minority ie the minority who may bugger orf with a trolley. Secondly the supermarkets make absolute squillions.......rip the farmers off and us by selling second rate produce. Thirdly.....its a freakin inconvenience......I had to lend a $1.00 to an old chap as he didnt have any gold coin on him....I had to use a basket the other day as I didnt have any gold coins. **** em I say.....so now shop at Coles where you can use their trolley without a bloody hire agreement in place,
Regards
Stevo
abaddonxi
28th August 2009, 08:09 PM
Ah thats a bugger...I am actually looking to going into meat goats myself..best keep an eye on my back:). Good that you found another dream thats the main thing,
Regards
Stevo
Good advice mate, don't turn your back on a goat.:p
DeanoH
28th August 2009, 08:16 PM
And the problem is?
The problem is that the management of supermarket trolleys is the responsibility of the supermarket not the customer.
Deano
DeanoH
28th August 2009, 08:31 PM
Ah thats a bugger...I am actually looking to going into meat goats myself..
Funny you should mention meat goats.....
Just come back from the Kimberley earlier this week; there I was driving from Halls Creek up to Turkey Creek, where you turn off to go to the Bungle Bungles, around the corner and theres a flock of about 30 goats on the road. Not your average feral type goat but Boer goats. Brown heads, white bodies and floppy ears. Great eating. Managed not to hit any, but if you need the start of a "meat" flock this is it.
Deano
stevo68
29th August 2009, 02:30 PM
Funny you should mention meat goats.....
Just come back from the Kimberley earlier this week; there I was driving from Halls Creek up to Turkey Creek, where you turn off to go to the Bungle Bungles, around the corner and theres a flock of about 30 goats on the road. Not your average feral type goat but Boer goats. Brown heads, white bodies and floppy ears. Great eating. Managed not to hit any, but if you need the start of a "meat" flock this is it.
Deano Yep, they are the ones I am looking at breeding...those and Kalahari goats. Your right, they are great eating and very healthy. Will send you a sample once I am up and running :),
Regards
Stevo
p38arover
29th August 2009, 02:48 PM
The problem is that the management of supermarket trolleys is the responsibility of the supermarket not the customer.
Deano
So the people can steal them and that's the supermarket's responsibility?
hoadie72
29th August 2009, 02:50 PM
The problem is that the management of supermarket trolleys is the responsibility of the supermarket not the customer.
Deano
It's not like it's actually costing you money though. And it's not a new thing nor is it restricted to Woolies - my Coles had this 20 years ago!
p38arover
29th August 2009, 02:50 PM
I had to use a basket the other day as I didnt have any gold coins.
Go and buy one of their keyring tokens, you'll have it for life.
I don't shop with them as their range is too small and they usually have only one checkout working.
V8Ian
29th August 2009, 02:51 PM
And the problem is?
You get the money back when you return the trolley.
I've seen people steal trolleys and put them onto trains to take their shopping home. I see them take them home, empty them out, then push the trolley out into the street, a long way from the shop. I see them dumped in the local creek. I don't blame the supermarkets for wanting a token.
Aldi offer a key ring token which can be used instead of a gold coin.
(No, I don't shop at Aldi.)
I'd like to see more of the trolleys that lock their wheels when people try to take them out of the shopping centre car park.
Hear, hear Ron. The irresponsible cretins then return a few days later to repeat the cycle. I've seen scum stripping the wheels from a trolly, on the footpath. The coin thing can be a bit inconvenient, but I follow the practicalities of it from Woolies' point ov view. I've often thought that that if all trollyable(:D) access points were fitted with groove, as on escalators, the low lives would not have the energy to remove trollies.
lewy
29th August 2009, 03:01 PM
on a lighter note.i thought i would give my trolley to a kid the other day so he could push the trolley back and claim the dollar.He quickley wipped out a piece of wipper snipper cord removed the dollar and left the trolley in the carpark.:eek:
V8Ian
29th August 2009, 03:04 PM
I wonder if same chain that one now has to make sure you have a gold coin donation to use their freakin shopping trolleys.
Regards
Stevo
The local trolly boy must love you Stevo, it's not a donation, you get your $1/$2 back when you return the trolly.:D:D
Can you come up with a better soloution?:confused:
V8Ian
29th August 2009, 03:05 PM
Go and buy one of their keyring tokens, you'll have it for life.
I don't shop with them as their range is too small and they usually have only one checkout working.
Do they work at Woolies?;)
hoadie72
29th August 2009, 03:09 PM
Hear, hear Ron. The irresponsible cretins then return a few days later to repeat the cycle. I've seen scum stripping the wheels from a trolly, on the footpath. The coin thing can be a bit inconvenient, but I follow the practicalities of it from Woolies' point ov view. I've often thought that that if all trollyable(:D) access points were fitted with groove, as on escalators, the low lives would not have the energy to remove trollies.
Like a cattle grid for trolleys?
V8Ian
29th August 2009, 03:41 PM
Like a cattle grid for trolleys?
No, a grid would just go bumpety bumpety bumpety bump, because the rails run the wrong way.:D:p Escalators are ribbed, in the direction of travel, stopping the wheels rotating.
Ace
29th August 2009, 03:55 PM
Havent they been making alot of the plastic bags biodegradeable anyway? They are made of polymers, so why not use biopolymers made from glucose then when they go to the tip or into landfil, where they are often resused as a garbage back as Dobbo said they can just break down over time. The whole gripe was that they just lasted forever in landfil, but if they break down whats the issue with using them?
As for the trolleys at Aldi, i personally dont care if they ask for a $2 coin to unlock them, you get it back as Ron said, but each to their own, its just aldi's way of lowering prices even more, the money they save on not having to pay trolley pushers to run around the country side collecting them is put back into the store to lower running costs and lower the prices of the stuff we purchase.
But back to the original point of the post i think the issue for the larger supermarkets and the cardboard box idea is the logistics of having the boxes where they are easy to access. In the small towns where the checkouts where not as busy someone could duck out the back and get one, but given the distance to the back of a wollies of a Coles from the front of house ducking out the back for a box would prove time consuming, not to mention the space that lots of unflattened boxes takes up.
stevo68
29th August 2009, 04:20 PM
The local trolly boy must love you Stevo, it's not a donation, you get your $1/$2 back when you return the trolly.:D:D
Can you come up with a better soloution?:confused: Ahhh....learnt something else new today...won't be passing that onto the missus...she already holds certain views in regards to myself :o.
Look I can understand the why....and would probably be more prevalent in some area's as opposed to others. My view has changed slightly as I.....ummm....errrr....haven't got the gold coin back....but having lent a few $$$ here and there...mainly to older folk when other supermarkets in the area don't have that in place. I can understand in city area's but not good old Mudgeeraba :),
Regards
Stevo
V8Ian
29th August 2009, 04:33 PM
Stevo, I reckon the coin system will go into every supermarket eventually. As for the carton thing, their hands are likely tied, the supermarkets will get a cardboard compactor, free of charge from the recyclers, in return for all cardboard being placed in it.
stevo68
29th August 2009, 04:57 PM
Stevo, I reckon the coin system will go into every supermarket eventually. As for the carton thing, their hands are likely tied, the supermarkets will get a cardboard compactor, free of charge from the recyclers, in return for all cardboard being placed in it. What would be an interesting statistic, is whether the introduction on the gold coin has had an impact. A dollar coin for a trolley to knock off is still a bargain :D,
Regards
Stevo
DeanoH
29th August 2009, 05:23 PM
So the people can steal them and that's the supermarket's responsibility?
Its the responsibility of the supermarket to effectively manage and protect their assets. It is not about abrogation of this responsibility by forcing the role off on to their customers. Theft, vandalism and mis-use of supermarket trolleys is a major problem for the supermarkets, it is not my problem. Perhaps instead of penalising customers by making them come up with the cash a reward system like say a 'scratchy' or points towards something on return of trolleys would be better? Perhaps RFID's on trolleys and alarm points, cattle grid type installation or other means of containing trolleys could be used. I don't think the the supermarkets have properly looked for alternatives and have just chosen the easy way out and foisted this responsibility onto the customer.
How many 'trolley collectors' no longer have a job because of this system ? In the past kids earning a quid after school, low income people including pensioners and those of limited abilities have been able to work collecting trolleys. These people are at the low end of the scale and have now been further disadvantaged because the supermarkets won't effectively manage their assets. This system has only recently come into my area. The supermarkets colluded with the shire to implement this system in unison so that the customer couldn't protest by shopping at the next supermarket. I reckon it's wrong.
End of rant.
Deano
DeanoH
29th August 2009, 05:59 PM
Yep, they are the ones I am looking at breeding...those and Kalahari goats. Your right, they are great eating and very healthy. Will send you a sample once I am up and running :),
Regards
Stevo
Looking forward to it :). Hope you've got very good fences. These buggers get out one night your vegy gardens gone and your fruit trees will all be ringbarked!.
Sorry I'm off topic.
Deano
hoadie72
29th August 2009, 06:07 PM
Its the responsibility of the supermarket to effectively manage and protect their assets. It is not about abrogation of this responsibility by forcing the role off on to their customers. Theft, vandalism and mis-use of supermarket trolleys is a major problem for the supermarkets, it is not my problem. Perhaps instead of penalising customers by making them come up with the cash a reward system like say a 'scratchy' or points towards something on return of trolleys would be better? Perhaps RFID's on trolleys and alarm points, cattle grid type installation or other means of containing trolleys could be used. I don't think the the supermarkets have properly looked for alternatives and have just chosen the easy way out and foisted this responsibility onto the customer.
How many 'trolley collectors' no longer have a job because of this system ? In the past kids earning a quid after school, low income people including pensioners and those of limited abilities have been able to work collecting trolleys. These people are at the low end of the scale and have now been further disadvantaged because the supermarkets won't effectively manage their assets. This system has only recently come into my area. The supermarkets colluded with the shire to implement this system in unison so that the customer couldn't protest by shopping at the next supermarket. I reckon it's wrong.
End of rant.
Deano
The only penalty is the minor inconvenience of having to remember to carry a gold coin if you need a trolley.
Debacle
29th August 2009, 06:43 PM
Supermarket carparks amaze me. Have you ever seen the number of people who cruise through numerous times, trying to save themselves 20-50 metres walk.
It is hard to return those trolleys, that trolley bay must be at least 10 metres from the car.
We are becoming more American everyday.
donh54
1st October 2018, 03:16 PM
What would be an interesting statistic, is whether the introduction on the gold coin has had an impact. A dollar coin for a trolley to knock off is still a bargain :D,
Regards
StevoWe have trolleys laying around all over town, as well as in the river. All are either Coles, Woolies or IGA. Can't recall ever seeing an Aldi one. They're the only ones with the coin/token trolleys.
LRJim
1st October 2018, 04:14 PM
We have trolleys laying around all over town, as well as in the river. All are either Coles, Woolies or IGA. Can't recall ever seeing an Aldi one. They're the only ones with the coin/token trolleys.What a revival, it's funny going back nearly a decade people bitching about the invention of the green bag.
Now look at the reality of it all.
Cheers Jim
87County
1st October 2018, 04:26 PM
a thread revival of biblical proportions! :)
donh54
1st October 2018, 04:30 PM
Strange, that! The post came up after I clicked the "New Posts" link! [tonguewink][bighmmm][bigwhistle]
Bigbjorn
1st October 2018, 04:37 PM
How many 'trolley collectors' no longer have a job because of this system ? In the past kids earning a quid after school, low income people including pensioners and those of limited abilities have been able to work collecting trolleys. These people are at the low end of the scale and have now been further disadvantaged because the supermarkets won't effectively manage their assets. This system has only recently come into my area. The supermarkets colluded with the shire to implement this system in unison so that the customer couldn't protest by shopping at the next supermarket. I reckon it's wrong.
End of rant.
Deano
Around here the trolley collectors are all from the sub-continent (like the taxi drivers) and probably on 457 or student visas.
3toes
1st October 2018, 05:47 PM
The coin trolley return was introduced to Australian over 20 years ago. Was working for one of the trolley manufactures at the time. Reason was the high cost of the trolley replacement. Adding this changed people’s behaviour so they returned the trolley to a collection point not just letting it go until it crashed into something or ditching somewhere on way home. You would perhaps be surprised how many baskets are taken home from the supermarket.
In U.K. have started to only use where there is a problem and to remove the coin devise where pinching trolleys is not such an issue. The areas this is a problem are not always where you might think.
ATH
1st October 2018, 07:23 PM
Our local Dan Murphys gave up on the coin trolleys long ago and now a staff member goes out and collects them. They just leave them all unlocked now.
Trolleys everywhere seem to be collected by refugee types in all other shopping centres, a job our own kids did after school not so many years ago.
AlanH.
justinc
1st October 2018, 07:27 PM
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4bee
1st October 2018, 07:45 PM
The coin trolley return was introduced to Australian over 20 years ago. Was working for one of the trolley manufactures at the time. Reason was the high cost of the trolley replacement. Adding this changed people’s behaviour so they returned the trolley to a collection point not just letting it go until it crashed into something or ditching somewhere on way home. You would perhaps be surprised how many baskets are taken home from the supermarket.
In U.K. have started to only use where there is a problem and to remove the coin devise where pinching trolleys is not such an issue. The areas this is a problem are not always where you might think.
It didn't appear to bother these yobs. 500? YIKES!
An incredible 500 supermarket trolleys found off SA pier (https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/state/sa/2018/09/23/port-augusta-shopping-trolley-graveyard/)
350RRC
1st October 2018, 08:13 PM
One of the funniest ones is 2 trolleys welded together as a recreational cray pot in WA, being hauled aboard a REAL Fisheries boat. Not a new clip.
Trolleys cost $500+ each. Freshwater fish work I do means I get to see heaps of trolleys in really weird places, miles away from any supermarket.
One supermarket mega brand has trolleys with welded castors, one has bolted castors. Not going to tell you the nut size. Pretty good castors too.
cheers, DL
LRT
2nd October 2018, 07:11 AM
This is what our local IGA is putting up.
Plastic bags had so many uses ☹️
https://www.aulro.com/mobile-gallery/869e74af3253e5680668c932512b53db.jpg
Bigbjorn
2nd October 2018, 07:56 AM
A few years ago on every second Thursday (Age Pension Day) a shopping trolley would be abandoned at the corner of Agnew St. and Kensington Tce. Seven Hills. Now full marks to the oldie who pushed it there as it is a long uphill push from any supermarket in the district at Cannon Hill, Coorparoo, Carindale, Morningside. Not seen for some time now so I suppose the oldie has moved or passed away. Probably a heart attack from pushing a wonky wheel trolley uphill.
A rented house in Abbot St. New Farm had a line-up of trolleys under the front steps. The denizens obviously pushed their baked beans home in a new trolley each time they went to Coles.
ramblingboy42
2nd October 2018, 12:46 PM
a thread revival of biblical proportions! :)
what the hell is a biblical proportion?
p38arover
2nd October 2018, 12:59 PM
Maybe the police could charge those with trolleys well away from the shops with theft?
I've seen people take trolleys on board trains.
I like the trolleys that lock the wheels when attempting to take them beyond the carpark.
4bee
2nd October 2018, 01:50 PM
what the hell is a biblical proportion?
There now rb42, don't take on so.[smilebigeye]
Google is, or can be, you're friend.
Urban Dictionary: biblical proportions (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php'term=biblical%20proportions)
Zeros
2nd October 2018, 08:40 PM
Google wants to be a biblical proportion! IE: God-like big brother control over your privacy.
I dont use Google. I use DuckDuckGo, they don’t track or store or share your info.
Google officially sux.
Eevo
3rd October 2018, 01:35 AM
I like the trolleys that lock the wheels when attempting to take them beyond the carpark.
how does that work?
rick130
3rd October 2018, 02:51 AM
Google wants to be a biblical proportion! IE: God-like big brother control over your privacy.
I dont use Google. I use DuckDuckGo, they don’t track or store or share your info.
Google officially sux.The problem for those of us using Android is that Google are tracking us and sending packets of data back to Google even even we have location services turned off. [emoji848]
Zeros
3rd October 2018, 04:12 AM
The problem for those of us using Android is that Google are tracking us and sending packets of data back to Google even even we have location services turned off. [emoji848]
Exactly.
...whether you’re a yuppie hippy plastic bag hypocrite or not. (Lame attempt at staying on topic LOL)
4bee
3rd October 2018, 07:52 AM
Google wants to be a biblical proportion! IE: God-like big brother control over your privacy.
I dont use Google. I use DuckDuckGo, they don’t track or store or share your info.
Google officially sux.
A "Yuppie Hippy"? I'd like to see that.[smilebigeye]
Fair dos on Duck Duck, I have just looked at that on your say so, but while all these sites talk about keeping your privacy what is the 100% Guarantee that they do. They could be at it like everybody else under a different guise of honesty.
ie. Who watches the Watchers?
When one hits Send, it then is out of your hands.
ramblingboy42
3rd October 2018, 07:52 AM
There now rb42, don't take on so.[smilebigeye]
Google is, or can be, you're friend.
Urban Dictionary: biblical proportions (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php'term=biblical%20proportions)
ahhh I see , stories , falsehoods and myths , somehow based on the worlds biggest book of deception
4bee
3rd October 2018, 08:02 AM
ahhh I see , stories , falsehoods and myths , somehow based on the worlds biggest book of deception
In your opinion.
ramblingboy42
3rd October 2018, 08:19 AM
most people on this planet demand substantiated facts before they do or believe anything.
gullibilty has a huge amount to do with what people believe as well
the bible , to this day has no substantiated or scientifically proven data in any of its chapters.
no museum in the world has a single shred of evidence of any incident or story arising from its scriptures either.
there is evidence of the Romans and other civilisations of the same period but nothing supports anything written in the bible.
there are other documents and writings of that era available in museums around the world , again nothing from the original so called bible passages.
I have very good reason to be doubtful.
Eevo
3rd October 2018, 11:06 AM
there is evidence of the Romans and other civilisations of the same period but nothing supports anything written in the bible.
actually there is lots of things written in the bible that have independent evidence of happening.
just none that involve god.
rick130
3rd October 2018, 12:03 PM
A "Yuppie Hippy"? I'd like to see that.[smilebigeye]
I've been put in that category, somehow.
One of the young ladies I worked with in Canberra reckoned I was a hipster hippy.
I reckon that's an oxymoron, I can't be both! [emoji848][emoji15][emoji23]
4bee
3rd October 2018, 12:25 PM
I've been put in that category, somehow.
One of the young ladies I worked with in Canberra reckoned I was a hipster hippy.
I reckon that's an oxymoron, I can't be both! [emoji848][emoji15][emoji23]
[smilebigeye][smilebigeye][smilebigeye] Rick, try 'poor old rich bastard?' Yep, someone used that to describe me.
If he had only known?[bigsad] [smilebigeye]
"Now where did I put those Bank overdraft documents?"[wink11]
Zeros
3rd October 2018, 04:28 PM
I've been put in that category, somehow.
One of the young ladies I worked with in Canberra reckoned I was a hipster hippy.
I reckon that's an oxymoron, I can't be both! [emoji848][emoji15][emoji23]
A hipster is a yuppie hippy. The image of hippy whilst living the urban centeric dream. Self sufficiency means individual financial wealth over community and growing your own veggies. The image of independence and adventurousness whilst actually conforming to the mainstream. ...Infact Land Rover’s current primary target market.
4bee
3rd October 2018, 04:49 PM
A hipster is a yuppie hippy. The image of hippy whilst living the urban centeric dream. Self sufficiency means individual financial wealth over community and growing your own veggies. The image of independence and adventurousness whilst actually conforming to the mainstream. ...Infact Land Rover’s current primary target market.
Somehow I can't for the life of me imagine Rick growing veggies wearing an old straw hat & having a conversation with a Scarecrow for company.[smilebigeye][smilebigeye][smilebigeye]
Still, you never never know.
rick130
3rd October 2018, 06:09 PM
Somehow I can't for the life of me imagine Rick growing veggies wearing an old straw hat & having a conversation with a Scarecrow for company.[smilebigeye][smilebigeye][smilebigeye]
Still, you never never know.Truth is stranger than fiction Des. [emoji848][emoji6]
If you only knew my double life......[emoji23]
rick130
3rd October 2018, 06:15 PM
A hipster is a yuppie hippy. The image of hippy whilst living the urban centeric dream. Self sufficiency means individual financial wealth over community and growing your own veggies. The image of independence and adventurousness whilst actually conforming to the mainstream. ...Infact Land Rover’s current primary target market.Naa, Hipsters are super yuppies, I knew heaps of them when in Canberra.
RM Williams boots even though they'd never seen a horse in their lives, let alone which end the feed went in.
Very on point dress sense. Read, expensive.
About $100 worth of product in their beards, which took more time to groom than their partners hair....
You get the idea.
That particular young lady liked my dress sense, and knew my past, which few that know me from the last few years have any inkling of.
LRJim
3rd October 2018, 06:53 PM
Naa, Hipsters are super yuppies, I knew heaps of them when in Canberra.
RM Williams boots even though they'd never seen a horse in their lives, let alone which end the feed went in.
Very on point dress sense. Read, expensive.
About $100 worth of product in their beards, which took more time to groom than their partners hair....
You get the idea.
That particular young lady liked my dress sense, and knew my past, which few that know me from the last few years have any inkling of.Zeros hit the nail right on the head with hipsters it's the best definition for it. I highly doubt it was directed at you bloke! They havnt started wearing the RM boots here in melb but I'm just about ready to hang up my hat and shave off my beard! I preferred the emo scene at least they all kept their mouths shut and not try and change the world lol
4bee
3rd October 2018, 07:18 PM
Truth is stranger than fiction Des. [emoji848][emoji6]
If you only knew my double life......[emoji23]
But only on weekends, right Rhiannon?[biggrin]
rick130
3rd October 2018, 08:00 PM
But only on weekends, right Rhiannon?[biggrin][emoji23]
Saitch
4th October 2018, 04:23 PM
actually there is lots of things written in the bible that have independent evidence of happening.
just none that involve god.
And verily, I have seen the jaw bone of an ass with mine own eyes! (Albeit on the Gunbarrel Hwy.)
Bigbjorn
4th October 2018, 07:14 PM
And verily, I have seen the jaw bone of an ass with mine own eyes! (Albeit on the Gunbarrel Hwy.)
You may have that wrong. I thought Simpson slew the Filipinos with the ass bone of a Jew.[bigrolf]
auslizard
4th October 2018, 10:02 PM
I take a couple of dollars extra each time I go to Coles now. I use this to buy ten bags which I tear up and give back to cashier. How long till they want my Land Rover?
donh54
5th October 2018, 04:59 AM
You may have that wrong. I thought Simpson slew the Filipinos with the ass bone of a Jew.[bigrolf]
The way I heard the Tale of Simpson and Delicious, he rooted them over the hill with it! :Rolling:
ATH
6th October 2018, 08:28 AM
I see my post above was "edited" by someone.... did I upset someone by not being PC enough? How dare anyone make a comment about something everyone knows goes on, fiddling of stats. by pollies etc. with vested interests.
Oh well, that's life now I suppose. Mustn't hurt someone feelings......
Bit like our local club president editing my usual comment from an adv. about a forthcoming trip (No kids, no dogs, no smokers) because "we send the mag. to many people and it may upset someone!".
Pity they can't do something about the atrocious spelling and other misuse of the language.
AlanH.
Homestar
6th October 2018, 04:42 PM
I see my post above was "edited" by someone.... did I upset someone by not being PC enough? How dare anyone make a comment about something everyone knows goes on, fiddling of stats. by pollies etc. with vested interests.
Oh well, that's life now I suppose. Mustn't hurt someone feelings......
Bit like our local club president editing my usual comment from an adv. about a forthcoming trip (No kids, no dogs, no smokers) because "we send the mag. to many people and it may upset someone!".
Pity they can't do something about the atrocious spelling and other misuse of the language.
AlanH.
It was probably edited because you were discussing politics, so not upsetting anyone, you're just breaking the rules is all - naughty boy... 😁
I don't see anything wrong with setting ground rules for a trip you're planning and inviting others too either. I'd not go on a decent trip that had kids or dogs on it to be honest - the smoking bit doesn't bother me so much even though I'm a non smoker, but I can see why you'd want that too.
4bee
6th October 2018, 07:45 PM
It would be at least courteous to advise the poster of the reason a post was edited, rules or no rules.
They may then be able to judge their next post content.[bigsad]
ATH
7th October 2018, 09:22 AM
"They may then be able to judge their next post content." and break them damn rules next time. :)
AlanH.
ramblingboy42
7th October 2018, 09:29 AM
It would be at least courteous to advise the poster of the reason a post was edited, rules or no rules.
They may then be able to judge their next post content.[bigsad]
Suck it up.
Rules ARE rules. Obey them.
ATH
7th October 2018, 05:59 PM
'twas only a wee dig about posturing pollies and actions resulting from their mostly useless actions ........ and we of course the public have to pay the price for those actions, useless or otherwise.
And in the case of banning so called single use plastic bags, it was totally useless. That comment from me was totally in context with the thread and showed that the shops weren't to blame at all.
If that's classified as a political comment not allowed under the rules, that is a stupid rule.
AlanH.
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