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Axle 110
31st August 2009, 09:04 AM
Hi all, Has anyone come across the RTA HVIS( Heavy Vehicle Inspection) inspection for landrovers with 10 seat capacity, and has anyone found a way round or out of it.Axle 110

abaddonxi
31st August 2009, 09:32 AM
Not heard of it, but I think most are registered for nine seats or less.

Does that mean you need to drive with logbooks and mandatory breaks as well?

I'm guessing you have three seats in the front and two bench seats in the back? One way around it is to replace the centre front seat with a cubby box and get it plated as a nine seater? Well, that is if it's a number-of-seats thing.

Hmm, checked out the RTA -

A Light Rigid 'Class LR' covers a rigid vehicle with a GVM of more than 4.5 tonnes but not more than 8 tonnes. Any towed trailer must not weigh more than 9 tonnes GVM. Also includes vehicles with a GVM up to 8 tonnes which carry more than 12 adult including the driver and vehicles in class 'C'.
Note: There are no restrictions on the number of axles for this class of licence.

To me it reads that if your GVM is less that 4.5t and less than 12 passengers, then you are a car.

Worth a call to another RTA office, or to another mechanic.

Shonky
31st August 2009, 10:18 AM
You shouldn't need a heavy vehicle inspection. I would assume that your truck has been incorrectly classified during rego (maybe as SBS = Small Bus)

Talk to the RTA. ;)

Axle 110
31st August 2009, 10:41 AM
Thanks for the Reply`s, The compliance plate reads Omnibus. But the number of seats is not listed.

Bigbjorn
31st August 2009, 11:47 AM
Thanks for the Reply`s, The compliance plate reads Omnibus. But the number of seats is not listed.

My County has omnibus on the compliance plate. I used this to have a prking ticket cancelled. I was given a ticket by a Brisbane City Council parking nazi for parking a private vehicle in a loading zone. He persisted issuing the ticket whilst I was standing there telling him it was a bus and therefore a commercial vehicle. I took a photo of the compliance plate into City Hall and had the ticket cancelled even though the council officer said I was stretching the rules. I parked in a loading zone when I went in to City Hall too.

Blknight.aus
31st August 2009, 01:38 PM
if you're registered as an omnibus then yes you have to comply with the omnibus rules and regs which are near as damn it the same as heavy vehicle regs and you have to have additional insurance.



A smart council worker would have turned over the fine and then demanded you produce all of the docs required that go with the operation of an omnibus and when you failed to done you for your licences, and fined you for operating a vehicle without correct adherence to reporting requirements or whatever the term is that they use for that these days.

JDNSW
31st August 2009, 03:06 PM
I had an argument some years ago with the RTA about the seating capacity of my County (on the compliance plate "omnibus" but no number of seats) which has always had nine seats, although they decided to put '5' on the rego.

This involved an inspection by their heavy vehicles inspector, and during this he told me I was lucky it did not have ten seats, as then I would have to have the six monthly inspections at a HVIS depot instead of annual ones at an approved garage. So it seems that in NSW if you have ten seats or more, you are automatically a bus with all the red tape that goes with that.

John

VladTepes
31st August 2009, 03:13 PM
LOL @ Dave's point - yep that woulda been a larf eh Brian !

mudmouse
31st August 2009, 03:31 PM
Inspection Station requirements go on the vehicle GVM. You're under 4.5T so only require a class C licence and a Authorised Inspection Station (AIS) for rego inspections and defects to be cleared (unless an AUVIS) is nominated on the defect - that's Authorised Unreg.VIS or blue slips stations.

Heavy Vehicle = GVM or GCM exceeding 12.0 T

Don't worry about it. It's a classed as a car.


Matt.

Bigbjorn
1st September 2009, 07:08 AM
When I worked at Leyland Truck and bus, Series III station wagons were sold in Australia as 10 seaters because some states required a bus licence to drive a 12 seater, and because CTP insurance for a 12 bum bus was a lot more than for a 10 bum private reg. station wagon. The identical vehicle was sold in the UK as a 12 seater because sales tax was less on a commercial vehicle.

mr_sav
1st September 2009, 05:56 PM
Thanks for the Reply`s, The compliance plate reads Omnibus. But the number of seats is not listed.

Hi I bought a couple of Countys from NSW, the last (and my current) is a genuine 10 seater.

The Standards can be misleading - but perservere - 10 Seats (including driver) is a car.

if it was 10 seats + driver, then it is a heavy vehicle.

It took me a while, along with a few phone calls to the motor vehicle standards to iron it out. But we got there.

The inspector, who claimed to have 40 years experience and new everything finally admitted it was a first for him, when Standards came back approving the vehicle as a class in which cars are classified.

Good Luck.