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juddy
31st August 2009, 12:03 PM
Found this pic, and from what i can tell thats a 6x6 RR, any body any history on it??

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/08/82.jpg

dullbird
31st August 2009, 12:06 PM
can I ask how you know its a 6x6? assuming your talking about the RR to the right of the truck

juddy
31st August 2009, 12:34 PM
Theres always some one!!!!!!!

Ok I maybe wrong but some how i dont think iam.

Front mounted Pump, is the first indication of this being a 6x6, as far as i know they never made a 4x4 fire truck, as the extra long chassie of the 6x6 was need for the water/foram tanks, I think the Carmichael TACR came with out a front pump??? Its also a 3 door Commando, again never made as a 4x4.



can I ask how you know its a 6x6? assuming your talking about the RR to the right of the truck

THE BOOGER
31st August 2009, 12:39 PM
diana may be able to help whats the one on the left

juddy
31st August 2009, 12:51 PM
Thornycroft (LFT) Large Fire Tender)1957 Australia

Original chassis imported from the UK with the "running chassis" and body built by The Commonwealth Aircraft Corporation. The 500gpm Coventry Climax pump and equipment supplied by Wormald Australia. Has independent petrol motor, air foam system, and low-pressure monitor....

And i want one?????








diana may be able to help whats the one on the left

Phoenix
31st August 2009, 01:14 PM
Yes, it is a 6x6, I have a beter photo of it ... somewhere.

No I don't know any more details, although I think it is WA Based.

Other members of this forum know more details about it.

ellard
31st August 2009, 02:09 PM
Hi there

Sorry you did ask before......but have recently uploaded pictures.

It was in WA - but last I heard the owner was moving to SA, but have lost contact with him.

Its a strange one as the pump on most 6x6's were on the rear, but this one is driven of the front of the engine........

The second unit was advertised some tiem ago on e-bay - in New Zealand but the asking price was a high and no one bidded.

Well enjoy pictures...

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/02/259.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/02/260.jpg


New Zealand.....

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/08/78.jpg


Wayne

langy
31st August 2009, 03:57 PM
Thornycroft (LFT) Large Fire Tender)1957 Australia

Original chassis imported from the UK with the "running chassis" and body built by The Commonwealth Aircraft Corporation. The 500gpm Coventry Climax pump and equipment supplied by Wormald Australia. Has independent petrol motor, air foam system, and low-pressure monitor....

And i want one?????



Google Maps '70 ramsgate road sans souci', select street view and then arrow left until you are looking north - there lies "Lady Penelope" - formerly of a North Coast Shire Council and for the last ten (ish) years a billboard for Peace Love and Mung beans.

Many times I have driven past and wished I had somewhere to park her.

CraigE
31st August 2009, 04:23 PM
Would love something like that as a toy.
As said the one in NZ had too high a reserve price. My Boss at the time would not let me buy it for the ERT fleet.

numpty
31st August 2009, 04:45 PM
diana may be able to help whats the one on the left

Thornycroft Nubian Major. As said Large Fire Tender, used on aerodromes all over Australia up until the early eighties.

Bushie would have photos of the one we had at Sutherland Shire Headquarters Bushfire Brigade, formerly at Dubbo Airport ex RAAF.

Bushie
31st August 2009, 06:26 PM
Thornycroft (LFT) Large Fire Tender)1957 Australia

Original chassis imported from the UK with the "running chassis" and body built by The Commonwealth Aircraft Corporation. The 500gpm Coventry Climax pump and equipment supplied by Wormald Australia. Has independent petrol motor, air foam system, and low-pressure monitor....



It only had the mid mounted Coventry climax pump if it was a Mk3 (and I'm pretty sure it wasn't 500gpm) The main pump was a pto driven Thompson at 500gpm, foam pump was a vactrol system, guys could pull up to a stop engage pto, neutral on the transfer, pull in the vactrol and be producing foam in 10 seconds. I never got that good they were withdrawn from service before I got my 'rating'.

Mk1s were a constant mesh box (generally) with 1st gear blanked out. The Mk3s had an alison auto. Both were powered by the Rolls Royce B81 straight 8, when they were really working hard you could read the ID plate on the starter from the red glow off the exhaust manifold. :o


Thornycroft Nubian Major. As said Large Fire Tender, used on aerodromes all over Australia up until the early eighties.

Bushie would have photos of the one we had at Sutherland Shire Headquarters Bushfire Brigade, formerly at Dubbo Airport ex RAAF.

Just a technicallity :D the major were the 'carmichael' ULFV mk2

Numpty got his HR license in the Thorneycroft on a very hot day, as the examiner said if you drive this around you deserve a license.


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/08/6.jpg

Our one with 'Numpties MIssus' keeping it company (circa 1981 ?)

DeeJay
31st August 2009, 06:30 PM
Google Maps '70 ramsgate road sans souci', select street view and then arrow left until you are looking north - there lies "Lady Penelope" - formerly of a North Coast Shire Council and for the last ten (ish) years a billboard for Peace Love and Mung beans.

Many times I have driven past and wished I had somewhere to park her.

If its that pile of cardboard signs I will have to take your word for it...

Bushie
31st August 2009, 08:17 PM
Google Maps '70 ramsgate road sans souci', select street view and then arrow left until you are looking north - there lies "Lady Penelope" - formerly of a North Coast Shire Council and for the last ten (ish) years a billboard for Peace Love and Mung beans.

Many times I have driven past and wished I had somewhere to park her.

Will have to go and have a look.

The one in the pic I posted ended up with Maclean Shire council, mate and I drove it up to Yamba one morning around 1993 - best it had ever gone (after we found the mud wasp nest in the fuel tank breather) :o


Martyn

Psimpson7
31st August 2009, 08:22 PM
There is another one here at the moment too, for a year so you may see that driving about.

We spoke to the English owners at Carnarvon Gorge last week. Its been converted to a camper is a 6x4 with a 2.8tgv.

nice bit of kit

V8Ian
31st August 2009, 09:22 PM
It only had the mid mounted Coventry climax pump if it was a Mk3 (and I'm pretty sure it wasn't 500gpm) The main pump was a pto driven Thompson at 500gpm, foam pump was a vactrol system, guys could pull up to a stop engage pto, neutral on the transfer, pull in the vactrol and be producing foam in 10 seconds. I never got that good they were withdrawn from service before I got my 'rating'.

Mk1s were a constant mesh box (generally) with 1st gear blanked out. The Mk3s had an alison auto. Both were powered by the Rolls Royce B81 straight 8, when they were really working hard you could read the ID plate on the starter from the red glow off the exhaust manifold. :o



Just a technicallity :D the major were the 'carmichael' ULFV mk2

Numpty got his HR license in the Thorneycroft on a very hot day, as the examiner said if you drive this around you deserve a license.


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/08/6.jpg

Our one with 'Numpties MIssus' keeping it company (circa 1981 ?)
Who held it up when NM got too tired?:twisted:

BDA
9th April 2013, 04:23 PM
Yes a tough old beast that thing , I spent a few hot days and nights in it and my ears are still ringing .
I remember it having good axle articulation and a surprisingly good turning circle for its size . Pump wise I'm not even sure that the present Freightliners could keep up with it .

Miss the old girl and I'm sure a few others do too .

BDA
12th April 2013, 08:50 AM
I found some pics of another early Thorny by searching Thornycroft Nubian LFT . Bushie would know more about aircraft fire vehicle classifications but I believe they were called LFT for large fire truck or LFV for large fire vehicle .
Introduction Thornycroft Nubian 6x6 LFT owner in Oz (http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/showthread.php?36062-Thornycroft-Nubian-6x6-LFT-owner-in-Oz)
I remember people talking about them being Mk1s or crash manuals and I did get to see a Mk3 though it was extended at the back and had I think an Allison auto gearbox . Can't remember if was petrol or diesel again Bushie would know .
The one in the link above seems to have most of the original bits as delivered . The one Sutherland HQ BFB used had the monitor removed and the foam generator was taken off and sold for a reasonable sum of money . I think they used protein foam which was corrosive to steel and aluminium so that generator was probably solid brass .

Cheers A .

Lotz-A-Landies
12th April 2013, 09:00 AM
Ron 101 has a Thornycroft Nubian,

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/04/959.jpg

if anyone wants it (sans engine) to restore or part out, contact him via PM.