Jerry's carrieed on the roof rack

[cucinadio]

Hi Guys

Planing a trip to Alice via the plenty hwy and return via the the Simpson west to east this time next year..and defiantly will need to carry some jerry's .....dont have a rear swing away so the roof rack is the next option .....so what is your view/advice on caring them on the roof rack

cheers

[numpty]

Not recommended, but if you have no alternative and a properly designed and secure roof rack it should be OK.

I have done this in the past and as long as you use the fuel from the roof ASAP, you will limit any damage that may be caused, remembering that it is speed and corrugations which are the major cause of damage.

[Psimpson7]

I agree with Numpty.

A reduction in stability if you put a lot up there is an issue too

[cucinadio]

the problem is that there is no room in the D1 (swmbo and two kids) for the jerry's and l would really rather carry them outside than inside anyway .....i don't really have to want to build a rear bar just for that ......was maybe even thinking about some kind of swing away hitch receiver carrier or something ....

cheers

[Sleepy]

As mentioned, not ideal but if you have no option......

Be careful when strapping two jerrys next to each other, with the constant vibration, they can rub up against each other causing a failure (and heat!).

I placed bits of foam between mine (in the back of the ute) to reduce this.

Also, your Centre of Gravity will be raised so be careful on those bends ;)

[weeds]

go for it............looks like you will have no choice like most us travellers

i put a piece of cardboard between my jerries

just be mindful of the weight you have up there

[Chucaro]

what about of get made a tank to fit on the foot well of the rear seats?

[crump]

I always carry 2 Jerrys on the roof with my Safety devices rack and have had no problems, I honestly cant tell the difference if they are up there or not. I generally do the Boulia to Alice trip in a day with this set up, so I think as long as your Roofrack is up to it and you dont have any other heavy gear up top, you should be right, as always, drive to the conditions.

[Chucaro]

Crump, that Defe looks very nice, post more pic on the Defe section please ;)

[Cap]

Interesting question, was thinking about this just the other day. I have read that you need to use high density foam below/between and on the sides of the jerry cans, and ensure they are tied down tight and firm.

[crump]

Interesting question, was thinking about this just the other day. I have read that you need to use high density foam below/between and on the sides of the jerry cans, and ensure they are tied down tight and firm.
I use a folded up beer carton wrapped in gaffa tape, have done for the last 5 years.Good thing is when I finally lose it, I"m sure another wont be too far away.:angel:

[cal415]

You could always put the wife and kids on the roof rack, it would probobly make for a quieter ride ;)

[cal415]

I always carry 2 Jerrys on the roof with my Safety devices rack and have had no problems, I honestly cant tell the difference if they are up there or not. I generally do the Boulia to Alice trip in a day with this set up, so I think as long as your Roofrack is up to it and you dont have any other heavy gear up top, you should be right, as always, drive to the conditions.
That is one awesome looking fender, mine should look similar once its done, what color is that? and what rims/tyres are they, they look offset compared to the stock alloys??

[extreme]

Firstly you don't want anything heavy on your roofrack, however when i went to Cooktown i did put one jerry on my roofrack. I laid it down flat on one of those doormats made of tyres,strapped down with heavy duty rubber ockie strap.There were no leaks, only minor movement.

[TwoUp]

cucinadio,
Should be no problem. You have 90 odd Ltr tank don't you? If that is correct then you may be able to go from Mt Dare to Birdsville on just the tank:o Take the jerries though.

Fill up at Jervois (cash only) on the Plenty then (I have co-ords if you like) take a 4WD track left to Arltunga (old gold area), good driving and plenty to see. From there through the ranges (spectacular) to Alice. I would camp on the 4WD track. Gem Tree further on the Plenty is not much better than a bush camp with toilets.

Alice to Kulgera is easy and some good sight seeing. Kulgera to Mt Dare is an easy run (if there is not a dust storm). From Mt Dare I would go to Purni Bore with sight seeing on the way. Have a good trip and strap them jerries down!!

[weeds]

cucinadio,
Should be no problem. You have 90 odd Ltr tank don't you? If that is correct then you may be able to go from Mt Dare to Birdsville on just the tank:o Take the jerries though.


he has a V8, might be a bit tight with a standard tank

[The ho har's]

would you be happier with the back tyre on the roof?? if so you can borrow our jerry holder that goes where the door mounted tyre goes:)


Mrs ho har:angel:

[TwoUp]

V8 then, hmmm, maybe consider should the Ayr creek bypass be used as its 70Km ish extra. Anyhow I guess you would go a long way if not most of the way. Had a Rangie on a East West trip (a few trips ago) and from memory he did not use much more than a tank (he had a boat tank upon the roof and gravity fed to main).

Regards,
PeterW

[cucinadio]

quote=TwoUp;1067045]cucinadio,
Should be no problem. You have 90 odd Ltr tank don't you? If that is correct then you may be able to go from Mt Dare to Birdsville on just the tank:o Take the jerries though. Fill up at Jervois (cash only) on the Plenty then (I have co-ords if you like) Have a good trip and strap them jerries down!!
mate that would be great if you have interesting way you went...and yhea really looking forward to it thanks


he has a V8, might be a bit tight with a standard tank
True....im lucky to be getting 450 from a tank atm



would you be happier with the back tyre on the roof?? if so you can borrow our jerry holder that goes where the door mounted tyre goes:)
Cheers C i was thinking that and thankf for the offer....good idea..how much weight can the door take if i was to make up a mount for a few jerry there any ideas?

cheers

[TwoUp]

Happy to give some info (co-ords etc), are you in a group and have you and most of your group had much experience (navigation, bush driving, sand driving etc)? I could provide a couple of routes for you.

Regards,
PeterW

[MickS]

https://www.expeditionexchange.com/jerrycanholders/


https://www.expeditionexchange.com/jerrycanholders/DSC06541_.jpg (https://www.expeditionexchange.com/jerrycanholders/DSC06541.jpg)

[njz]

It might be easier if you get a jerry can holder that bolts to the rack. There are a number of different designs available. ARB even sell a double jerry holder now.

[cucinadio]

It might be easier if you get a jerry can holder that bolts to the rack. There are a number of different designs available. ARB even sell a double jerry holder now.


all good mate wont have problem wielding a few up ..l like the idea of on the rear door and putting the tyres up the top would anyone know how much weight the rear door could take .. especially with the movement of liquid apposed to a static tyre?

cheers

[adm333]

Ask me about the Plenty Hwy........ Plenty of what ???

2 weeks ago 130 Qld Variety Bash cars went down the Plenty Hwy and just about every one of them had 2 Jerry cans strapped to the roof.

I think you'll be fine.

As someone else said there's Jervois Station to fill up at and another roadhouse further west.

Good luck.

Dave

[cucinadio]

yhea the plenty is not much of a worry on the fuel front its this Simpson I'm more concerned with .....fuel wise that is

cheers

[vnx205]

all good mate wont have problem wielding a few up ..l like the idea of on the rear door and putting the tyres up the top would anyone know how much weight the rear door could take ..espsaly with the movement of liquid apposed to a static tyre?

cheers
Why would there be any movement? I would have thought the jerries would usually be completely full or completely empty. Either way the fuel would not move.

[cucinadio]

Why would there be any movement? I would have thought the jerries would usually be completely full or completely empty. Either way the fuel would not move.


interesting.....does a bowl of water or a bottle of water stay completely still when its moved .....;)

cheers

[V8Ian]

Place woolen carpet between containers and rack, ensure no metal to metal contact. Secure well to eliminate all movement. Ground gerries prior to decanting.

[vnx205]

interesting.....does a bowl of water or a bottle of water stay completely still when its moved .....;)

cheers
In a full, closed container like a bottle or a jerry, there will will no change in the weight distribution inside the container. Even if the liquid moves, it will be replaced by an equal mass of liquid. So there will be no difference in the stresses imposed by a full jerry or a tyre of the same weight.

[V8Ian]

In a full, closed container like a bottle or a jerry, there will will no change in the weight distribution inside the container. Even if the liquid moves, it will be replaced by an equal mass of liquid. So there will be no difference in the stresses imposed by a full jerry or a tyre of the same weight.
But the container should not be filled to flood point, liquid will not compress as it expands in the heat.
Watch a liquid tanker rock when the wheels are stationary.

[GS-ADI]

I would not feel safe with a Jerry on the roof,..

:D far safer to keep them on the back,

[Jojo]

Not wanting to appear a smart arse, but... how about putting some other items onto the roof rack, like camping gear or what ever you want to load behind the rear seats. I personally never did and wouldn't feel comfortable if I should, but others are driving around with jerry cans on the rack.

As for the Disco rear door, a filled jerry can is not heavier than a full-sized spare, so I think it should work out alright.

Have a nice trip!

[3.9County]

Yeah,

Never had any problems yet, I carry three up top on my 85 county with a 1.5 tonne strap holding them together, I have a full length steel roof rack that also carries the spare tyre and the roof tent.

The county roof gutters are steel though, I think the deffenders are aluminium so just be carefull of load. especially when the trip gets a bit rough.

For long corrogated trips I would prefer to remove them, of course unless you had them firmly secured up top like a twin jerry can holder that is bolted down.

My isuzu county had two single jerry can holders on the rear.. Much Better.:)