Series 1 Indicators

[101RRS]

According to the Taylor book on series 1s, SWB station wagons had indicators as standard - these were not separate amber lenses or the flippers but are through the parking light system - the front parkers flash and the rear tail lights flash.

Has anyone got this system on any model series 1 landy and does it work OK?

Thanks

Garry

[Sleepy]

I've heard of this before Garry, but thought it was only for North American versions.

[JDNSW]

Even if supplied here they would be no longer operational as red rear blinkers have never been legal in Australia.

But few if any Series 1s would have any form of indicator as original equipment, because indicators did not become a legal substitute for hand signals until about the end of Series 1 production. I am pretty sure they were not when I got my licence in 1959, although by then they had begun to appear on imported cars, and even from memory appeared on the 1958 Holden. Most UK origin cars had had semaphore type indicators since the war, but again, these were not a legal substitute for hand signals.

John

[isuzutoo-eh]

I've got it on my 2a on the front parkers. The rear has seperate indicators and stop/tail lights.
It seems to work well but haven't tried it in traffic yet...
-Mark

[Aaron IIA]

Even if supplied here they would be no longer operational as red rear blinkers have never been legal in Australia.

If they were original equipment, I know that red rear direction indicator lamps are still legal in South Australia.

Aaron.

[chazza]

Even if supplied here they would be no longer operational as red rear blinkers have never been legal in Australia.


John

I can clearly remember many Holdens, FC or FE something like that, with flashing red tailights in WA in the 1960's.

I would be surprised if they knocked back a S1 with flashing tail light given that it does not need indicators anyway.

An alternative is to fit an orange LED inside the tailight that overpowers the brake light when it flashes,

Cheers Charlie

[Lotz-A-Landies]

If they were original equipment, I know that red rear direction indicator lamps are still legal in South Australia.

Aaron.Only the NADA* specification vehicles had flashing turn indicator lamps. You need one of the modules for each end of the vehicle. You can use them on the front if you have double pole side lamps.

They still flash white to the front and red to the rear and even if legal in SA or elsewhere I find them very annoying because they cancel the red stop lamp on the turn side and if the stop lamp is blown on the opposite side then there is no stop lamp showing on the vehicle, so they should be illegal just like using fog lights all the time. :mad:

Get yourself some period looking turn lamps from a motor bike and use them without the holes in the body. There are plenty out there.

Diana

[101RRS]

All very interesting - so I take it that no one has the original system on their series 1.

Taylor's book indicates all station wagons had them - says nothing about different markets.

My series 1 does not have amber indicators at the front but does have aftermarket amber indicators at the rear. I have not checked as I do not have an indicator stork but I believe my car was fitted with the original parker style indicators but the rears were modified from the tail lights to separate units in service but the fronts were left in the parkers.

Garry

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Garry

I'm not sure of the model (could be L488) but you can use the Lucas stop/tail lamp base as used on the rear of the Morris 1000 vans on the front of the late Series 1s.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/09/415.jpg

The rubber base will accept the original S1 clear lens and surround and so you then have flashing white indicators by using the stop lamp filament as the indicator. This was the system as used (and legal) on the International Harvester Mk3, Mk4 and Mk5 AACO's (sic) for the front lamps, it was only in about 1970 that they required amber lamps for the indicators.

That will still leave you with a need for something else at the rear.

Diana

[101RRS]

Thanks Diana - not really sure what I will use but was just curious if anyone did actually have the original system in their vehicles.

PS Thumb is still bad news and still on antibiotics - A/B resistant staf infection plus nerve damage. But I do have near full use but is still swollen.

Cheers

Garry

[Sleepy]

I note in the serice manual it talks about front side lights being extinguished when headlights are on (only for North America). Leaving the sidelights available to "flash" when turning.

Also I bought 2 of those L488's from http://www.morrisminor.uk.com/ - quite a good price and quick delivery - They have white red and orange lenses too.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

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PS Thumb is still bad news and still on antibiotics - A/B resistant staf infection plus nerve damage. But I do have near full use but is still swollen.

Cheers
GarrySorry to hear of the nerve damage, but good that it's on the mend. :) It looked pretty ugly when I saw it at the Abercrombie River!

Cheers
Diana

[Grockle]

UK Station Wagons had twin filament bulbs front and back standard fitment,if it helps you guys.

[JDNSW]

UK Station Wagons had twin filament bulbs front and back standard fitment,if it helps you guys.

Which means Australian ones did, since they were fully imported - but I don't know of any in existence here today, and I am not sure the numbers ever got into double figures!

John

[Grockle]

Which means Australian ones did, since they were fully imported - but I don't know of any in existence here today, and I am not sure the numbers ever got into double figures!

John

If I find anything out I'll let you all know.

ps. I heard of a guy paying to have indicators fitted only to find out later everything was already there !

[dennisS1]

My 1957 107 wagon had Land Rover installed indicators installed, this consisted of a separate loom running the front side light with dual elements and two little orange lamps fitted to the rear just above the pork pies.
Dennis

[JDNSW]

My 1957 107 wagon had Land Rover installed indicators installed, this consisted of a separate loom running the front side light with dual elements and two little orange lamps fitted to the rear just above the pork pies.
Dennis

According to my new Series 1 book, all Series 1 wagons, not just the Tickford ones, had the front blinkers using dual filament sidelights and the rear ones using the tail lights or rather stop lights. I suspect the little orange lights may have been an Australian special similar, for example, to the pendant lights fitted to the contemporary Chevrolet's horizontal fins.

John

[101RRS]

According to my new Series 1 book, all Series 1 wagons, not just the Tickford ones, had the front blinkers using dual filament sidelights and the rear ones using the tail lights or rather stop lights. I suspect the little orange lights may have been an Australian special similar, for example, to the pendant lights fitted to the contemporary Chevrolet's horizontal fins.

John

That is what prompted my thread in the first place - it would seem that no one has the original system still fitted to their station wagons.

Garry

[Grockle]

UK ones had twin filaments in the tail lamps no sep. orange lamps