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willem
29th September 2009, 04:34 PM
I replaced the rear air springs on the P38 today, using the instructions on Rangerovers.net.
The first one - RHS - took about 45 minutes; the second, less than 15 minutes. It's not rocket science, a pretty straightforward job.
Willem
PaulP38a
29th September 2009, 10:49 PM
Good on you Willem... I haven't been game to try that yet. You have been a productive bloke of late.
Since you're in a productive mood, want to come to my place and put the dash facsia back together for me? Me and my aching bones/muscles are a bit "over it" this week ;) and I doubt if I'll get much done when I return home from Darwin on Friday night.
Cheers, Paul.
willem
30th September 2009, 09:56 AM
Good on you Willem... I haven't been game to try that yet. You have been a productive bloke of late.
Since you're in a productive mood, want to come to my place and put the dash facsia back together for me? Me and my aching bones/muscles are a bit "over it" this week ;) and I doubt if I'll get much done when I return home from Darwin on Friday night.
Cheers, Paul.
You must be getting to be an old geezer, Paul! :o:D:D
I'd love to come over and give you a hand, if only I could convince someone to do the BlankLabels work that I need to do! But the dash isn't that hard to do - just patience and attention to detail, and hopefully you won't have any screws left when you're finished! I reckon it would be a lot easier if I had a hoist to lift the car up to waist height so that I could work on it without having to crawl on the floor. I'm getting over that, I can tell you! (Yes, yes, I know, I'm an old geezer!;):D:D)
The air springs are real easy. I can see that they are a realistic prospect to change in the field with only a single jack available. That's all I used - a jack, pliers, a hook made from an old coat-hanger, a screwdriver, and a wheel chock. I also used an axle stand as a safety back-up, but because I didn't take the wheels off, it wasn't really necessary.
About the only thing that I did use that is not available on the Rangie was compressed air to give a little inflation to the air springs. but again, that wasn't really necessary.
What have you been doing in Darwin? I like the town, I'd like to spend a bit more time up there, but for the above mentioned reason it probably won't happen in the near future.
Willem
PaulP38a
30th September 2009, 10:25 PM
You must be getting to be an old geezer, Paul! :o:D:D
I think I've been an old geezer all my life, it's just that now I've passed 40 I'm starting to feel it :o
The air springs are real easy. I can see that they are a realistic prospect to change in the field with only a single jack available. That's all I used - a jack, pliers, a hook made from an old coat-hanger, a screwdriver, and a wheel chock. I also used an axle stand as a safety back-up, but because I didn't take the wheels off, it wasn't really necessary.
Quite the MacGuyver aren't you? Now, if you had of substituted the coathanger for a paper clip, the screwdriver for a sharpened stick, and the wheel chock for a handy piece of granite... that would be really impressive ;)
About the only thing that I did use that is not available on the Rangie was compressed air to give a little inflation to the air springs. but again, that wasn't really necessary.
That's available too if you use the hotwire method described at RangeRovers.net or have a spare compressor in the boot. You already have an EAS bypass kit fitted so it's a piece of cake for you.
What have you been doing in Darwin? I like the town, I'd like to spend a bit more time up there, but for the above mentioned reason it probably won't happen in the near future.
Nothing as noble as the work you've done up that way I'm afraid. Just work is all... meetings and that kind of "stuff" I do that is too hard/boring to explain ;). I like Darwin too, especially the pubs and seafood.
Cheers, Paul.
willem
1st October 2009, 12:07 AM
Quite the MacGuyver aren't you? Now, if you had of substituted the coathanger for a paper clip, the screwdriver for a sharpened stick, and the wheel chock for a handy piece of granite... that would be really impressive ;)
Cheers, Paul.
Pardon my ignorance, but who/ what is MacGuyver? My education in this is sadly lacking! :o
Willem
Scouse
1st October 2009, 07:27 AM
Pardon my ignorance, but who/ what is MacGuyver? My education in this is sadly lacking! :o
Willem MacGyver - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I thought everyone knew MacGyver !!
Where have you been hiding ??
:p:p
willem
1st October 2009, 08:50 AM
MacGyver - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacGyver)
I thought everyone knew MacGyver !!
Where have you been hiding ??
:p:p
Obviously wherever MacGyver isn't!!
But you still haven't told me who he/ it is! :(:( Don't you know?? :o:D:D
Willem
willem
1st October 2009, 09:01 AM
Obviously wherever MacGyver isn't!!
But you still haven't told me who he/ it is! :(:( Don't you know?? :o:D:D
Willem
OOPPS! Didn't see the link to Wikipedia, did I! :twisted: Ah well, now at least I've been educated about MacGyver!
WRT the air springs, I wanted to use no more than the equipment anyone who is travelling out in the sticks would have with him - or should have! - so that I can take the car out there knowing that I can fix it if necessary. Several people have commented to me that 'You can't take an air sprung car out into the bush because you might get the spring staked by a stick or something'. I needed to know that in that case I could replace it with the equipment on hand.
Willem
LavisLane
1st October 2009, 09:53 AM
Probably worth a new thread, but while we're on the topic - has anyone done a self install with Arnotts Gen III's? Guessing there won't be any surprises beyond the OEM fitting?
Would also like to know how the ride quality changes in city driving... anyone have any experience on this?
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PaulP38a
3rd October 2009, 11:36 PM
OOPPS! Didn't see the link to Wikipedia, did I! :twisted: Ah well, now at least I've been educated about MacGyver!
Sorry Willem - I should have known that you don't have time for TV... too busy having kids ;)
WRT the air springs, I wanted to use no more than the equipment anyone who is travelling out in the sticks would have with him - or should have! - so that I can take the car out there knowing that I can fix it if necessary. Several people have commented to me that 'You can't take an air sprung car out into the bush because you might get the spring staked by a stick or something'. I needed to know that in that case I could replace it with the equipment on hand.
The only thing that you should fear in a P38A is water on the BeCM, or any of the other ECU's :eek: They share mechanicals with Discos and Defenders, but their overly-complex brains come from Bosch, Lucas and Sagem.
In the case of a blown air spring in the bush with no spare, I think I'd remove the inhibitor relay to prevent self-levelling, manually inflate the other 3 springs to absorb most of the bumps and drive carefully... think I'll throw a spare air spring in to the boot...
cheers, Paul.
willem
4th October 2009, 05:28 PM
Sorry Willem - I should have known that you don't have time for TV... too busy having kids ;)
Better fun, too! ;):D:D:D
Willem
Remy
29th October 2009, 11:14 AM
Just did the GEN 3's fornt and rear exactly as described on rangerovers.net and here. If you don't mind getting your hands dirty it is a very easy job. Haven't tested them on the road yet.
Probably worth a new thread, but while we're on the topic - has anyone done a self install with Arnotts Gen III's? Guessing there won't be any surprises beyond the OEM fitting?
Would also like to know how the ride quality changes in city driving... anyone have any experience on this?
D
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