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86mud
1st October 2009, 06:56 AM
Hi All

Further to my previous post regarding use of a simple solenoid for a dual battery setup, my other concern is will a 65amp alternator be big enough to charge both batteries as well as running a 9,000pd winch?

It is the original 300tdi alternator with new internals.

Thanks

Andrew

foz.in.oz
1st October 2009, 07:21 AM
In a word yes.

It is the battery that will deliver the necesssary amps to drive the winch so this needs to be man enough. A 9500lb winch at full pull will use over 500 amps so a battery of 650cca minimum is recommended (by Warn). Obviously the winch will not need to work this hard often if at all so you are more likely to only use half of that (250amp).

The alternator will obviously need to replenish this when you are not winching. The bigger the alternator the faster the charge rate, so a small alternator will do, it will just take longer.

It is not recommended to run electric winches too long to allow for the heat generated to be dissapated and to allow for the battery to recover.

Michael2
1st October 2009, 08:38 AM
The 65 amp alt in the Defender doesn't have a sealed rear bearing, and every so often, say 20,000km, you should inspect / clean / grease it. It doesn't take long.

The 100amp from the 300Tdi disco is a better sealed unit and will fit straight in, so when it comes time to replacing, you may as well get a Disco one. I don't know how Land Rover's research suggested that a school taxi would need more electrical charging capacity than an expedition vehicle, but perhaps it's because the school taxi gets shorter runs. It couldn't possibly have been a budgetry constraint.

Tank
1st October 2009, 11:07 AM
The 65 amp alt in the Defender doesn't have a sealed rear bearing, and every so often, say 20,000km, you should inspect / clean / grease it. It doesn't take long.

The 100amp from the 300Tdi disco is a better sealed unit and will fit straight in, so when it comes time to replacing, you may as well get a Disco one. I don't know how Land Rover's research suggested that a school taxi would need more electrical charging capacity than an expedition vehicle, but perhaps it's because the school taxi gets shorter runs. It couldn't possibly have been a budgetry constraint.
Electric windows, Central locking, Climate control...etc. etc.
Andrew if you have a deep cycle battery make sure you dont run the winch off it, otherwise you will bugger it (D/C battery that is), BTW 65 amps is plenty, Regards Frank.

Utemad
1st October 2009, 11:19 AM
My winch has had bugger all use (Warn 8000lb) but one time I did use it for a long winching session to get a rolled Hilux down a hill. Although the winch never stopped we did have to keep the revs up a bit after a while as you could hear the winch slowing down due to the battery being drained.
This is in a V8 Disco1 with standard 100 amp alternator and 600 CCA battery.

So I would actually say that a 65 amp alternator would not be ideal but it would no doubt do the job. Just next time when you change the alternator go for a bigger one.

What I did learn from the Hilux episode though is that it is great to be the guy with the winch. As I got the job of sitting in the comfy Disco with my foot on the brake while everyone else had to run around on the steep loose gravel hill attaching straps and operating the hand winch. We were at it for hours :D