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patclan
9th October 2009, 12:35 PM
Hey sorry if this has been discussed before, I searched but never found a clear answer.
I am sitting at my desk at work and the guys are all talking about different tyres they are putting on their 4x4's.
I had not given it much thought as I assumed the tyres that will be on my defender when it arrives in November would do for a while, I cant see me getting into anything too risky for a while until I have more experience so probably just some sand work on Frazer Island and maybe some hinterland driving.
Will the stock tyres on a new defender be ok for this? When should I consider putting other ones on and is there any particular type?
Thanks
Patrick
spudboy
9th October 2009, 12:42 PM
What are you getting? A 130 or a 110?
patclan
9th October 2009, 12:48 PM
What are you getting? A 130 or a 110?
A 110
spudboy
9th October 2009, 12:52 PM
That will come with General Grabbers. They are pretty good for factory fit tyres. Huge mileage.
I have done a lot of sand driving in my 110 with General Grabbers and they go well. Let them down to 16 -18 PSI. You won't need to replace them for Fraser.
I am a big fan of "skinny" tyres for 4WDing. I've not seen anyone get much further especially in sand with big fat tyres, but that's a whole other debate :D
Scouse
9th October 2009, 01:58 PM
That will come with General Grabbers. Just clarifying a small point: The 110 wagon comes with the Grabbers. The base spec 110 utes come with the Michelin tyres (2 types).
But I agree, the Grabbers seem to be a great all round tyre.
numpty
9th October 2009, 02:10 PM
The Grabbers will be fine for sand. Our Defender (2006 110) has just clicked over 100,000 k's and there is still heaps of tread left. I have a second set of rims and will be probably putting some kind of mud terrain tyre on those.
patclan
9th October 2009, 03:42 PM
Excellent, thanks for that.
Blknight.aus
9th October 2009, 04:01 PM
the stock GG's will only let you down in sticky clay and dont give a lot of warning on loose gravel.
I got 100K Km out of mine and swapped them off because of age they still had about 20% usable tread left and got rotated onto a mates trailer.
Benny_IIA
9th October 2009, 06:35 PM
I've not seen anyone get much further especially in sand with big fat tyres, but that's a whole other debate :D
? The idea of letting your tyres down is to increase the surface area. So wider the tyre bigger the foot print.
spudboy
10th October 2009, 10:48 AM
? The idea of letting your tyres down is to increase the surface area. So wider the tyre bigger the foot print.
I think it is the "length" of the footprint when you air down that gives you the traction. I am not convinced that a (say) 295 tyre in sand is any better than a 215 (or 7.50 R16).
The GGs aired down bag out nicely, and on the bitumen the narrower tyres drive and feel better than the wide tyres.
I've just taken some wide Goodyear MTRs off of my 90 and gone back to stock tyres, and the improvement in the ride and steering is fantastic.
Benny_IIA
10th October 2009, 11:36 AM
I think it is the "length" of the footprint when you air down that gives you the traction. I am not convinced that a (say) 295 tyre in sand is any better than a 215 (or 7.50 R16).
The GGs aired down bag out nicely, and on the bitumen the narrower tyres drive and feel better than the wide tyres.
I've just taken some wide Goodyear MTRs off of my 90 and gone back to stock tyres, and the improvement in the ride and steering is fantastic.
Your not comparing Apples with Apples, Mtrs and GGs are completely different.
I would have a 285 AT over 7.50 AT (same tread and Dia).
JamesH
10th October 2009, 12:21 PM
I like the sound of these Grabbers for my 300tdi Defender but I see they don't do 7.5R16. I like the idea of lots of mileage.
I'm no guru but I can't get my head around buying a car and changing the rims and tyres straight off. By all means consider it when your original set have worn out.
I've heard tell that you can get "second hand" Dunlop 7.5R16s around the place that have been swapped straight off brand new troupies. I'd like to know where you get some of that action.
spudboy
10th October 2009, 12:30 PM
.... I'd like to know where you get some of that action.
Search eBay or TradingPost. Some are tyres only, some are tyres and rims.
The big problem is finding somone close to where you live, because it is not cheap to ship tyres & rims around the country.
Scouse
10th October 2009, 12:31 PM
I've heard tell that you can get "second hand" Dunlop 7.5R16s around the place that have been swapped straight off brand new troupies. I'd like to know where you get some of that action.There's a tyre shop near me that a major Toyota dealer uses for it's mine deals (so they tell me). They would replace the split rims & 7.50R16 Dunlops with wider rims/tyres & then sell off the 'old' split/tyre assemblies.
Until recently, they sold these for $110-120 each but now want $300 :mad:.
You might have luck over your way so see if you can find out the major supplier of 76(?) series Landcruisers is out your way.
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