TD5 WHICH ENGINE OIL????

[bronson]

Can someone please reccomend a mid range engine oil for a td5 that looks after the engine.

cheers
bronson:BigThumb:

[waz]

I use Penrite HPR Diesel 5.

W

[Landie_Addict]

:imwithstupid:

Always wanted to use that smiley! I use Penrite HPR Diesel 5 too.


Probably not mid-range price wise though.

[stig0000]

i wouldent skimp on oils, you only change it every 10k or so,,, so spend the lil more for good oil,, we put soft tec LL01 in new land rovers at work,

i only ever use fully syn

[xsm]

Make sure you use a fully synthetic oil.

I used Nulon for my last change. Nulon recommends the use of its fully synthetic 5W30 in a TD5. For my last change I went with their fully synthetic 5W40 (I'm a bit stuck in the past and am of the opinion that 30 is a bit low in the Aussie climate but I'm probably wrong about that). It seems to be going well with quick pressure build up and no rattling noises on cold start up.

It costs about $60 per 5 litres.

When the Landrover dealer was servicing my TD5 they were using Mobil 1 0W40.

Cheers
Martin

[Captain_Rightfoot]

I use Mobil Delvac 1. It's hardly mid range though. 20l is about $230.

[Blknight.aus]

nulon synthetic 10/40w if youre much north of sydney and 5/30 or 10/30 if your sydney or south.

[Slunnie]

Mobil 1 0-40 or 5-50.

[Fluids]

Penrite SinDiesel 5w40 ... ain't cheap though ... :eek:

Penrite HPR5 Diesel is a good mid-range priced oil.

Kev..

[catch-22]

Mobil Delvac 1.....

[Hay Ewe]

Oh......:(

I have been using Gulf Western (think thats the right name - the aussie oil) for the last year since I brought a TD5
Its rated same as the book says to use,

I agree oils aint oils but the ratings should be consistant

I try to change the oil about every 5000-6000km and the mail fitler as well

might do some research on this now.....

:confused:

[rangieman]

Well the castrol site suggests magnatec 10w-40 for the Td5 :eek: a petrol oil in a diesel :cool:

[Captain_Rightfoot]

Well the castrol site suggests magnatec 10w-40 for the Td5 :eek: a petrol oil in a diesel :cool:

I am not an oil expert (what was the fancy name for that again?) but I think the justification is that diesel oils are very high in detergents, and Castrol are saying that magnatec has enough of it?

[stig0000]

plus land rover recomends castrol

[Rudolf]

Well the castrol site suggests magnatec 10w-40 for the Td5 :eek: a petrol oil in a diesel :cool:
Dealers here in RSA use Magnatec 10W40.

[Gold_TD5]

Well the castrol site suggests magnatec 10w-40 for the Td5 :eek: a petrol oil in a diesel :cool:
There is a diesel specific Magnatec, I use it my self, change every 10K with a filter.
Have ran Maganatec in the Falcon for the last 80K, changed every 10K without drama, runs sweet.
On gas it comes out the same colour it goes in.

[rangieman]

There is a diesel specific Magnatec, I use it my self, change every 10K with a filter.
Have ran Maganatec in the Falcon for the last 80K, changed every 10K without drama, runs sweet.
On gas it comes out the same colour it goes in.
Well the site states magnatec nothing about diesel specs at all !


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Castrol Magnatec 10W-40 provides up to 5 times* better protection than other leading engine oils. Up to 75% of engine wear occurs in the first 15 minutes. Castrol Magnatec combines synthetic technology with intelligent melecules that cling like a magnet to critical engine parts, to create an additional layer of protection. When you turn off your engine, ordinary engine oils drain to the bottom of the engine, leaving the engine exposed to the heavy metal-on-metal wear that occurs from start-up. Castrol Magnatec molecules cling to the engine, to create a thin film of protection, dramatically reducing engine wear during the critical start-up/warm up period to ensure your engine is protected from the moment you turn the key. Meets and exceeds API SM/CF, ACEA A3/B3 requirements. *Tested against part-synthetic engine oils using the severe Sequence IVA wear test.http://www.datateck.com.au/lube/castr_au/pics/edges530.jpgCASTROL EDGE SPORT 5W-30
Castrol Edge Sport 5W-30 is a full synthetic SAE 5W-30, API SM/CF. ACEA A3/B3/B4 engine oil formulated for highly tuned fast fours and latest technology engines. It provides superb strength and ultimate protection even when running hard, fast or hot.https://www.aulro.com/afvb/Service Refill Capacity: 8.2* Litres (See Note 378)
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A full synthetic SAE 75W/85 manual transmission fluid with superior synchroniser performance.https://www.aulro.com/afvb/Service Refill Capacity: 2.4 Litres (See Note 682)
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Multipurpose gearbox, steering gear and differential oil for passenger cars, light trucks, farm tractors and earthmoving equipment. SAE 80W/90, API GL5.https://www.aulro.com/afvb/Service Refill Capacity: 2.3 Litres
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https://www.aulro.com/afvb/https://www.aulro.com/afvb/4WD Transferhttps://www.aulro.com/afvb/http://www.datateck.com.au/lube/castr_au/pics/Syntrax_75W90.jpgCASTROL SYNTRAX 75W/90
Full synthetic manual transmission, transaxle and rear axle lubricant with outstanding extreme pressure, synchroniser and high temperature performance. Recommended for vehicles that combine gearbox and hypoid differentials, rear axles of light cars and secondary drive axles (front and rear) of 4WD vehicles. SAE 75W/90, API GL5.https://www.aulro.com/afvb/Service Refill Capacity: 2.3 Litres (See Note 185)
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https://www.aulro.com/afvb/https://www.aulro.com/afvb/Notes*Includes Oil Filter185Semi-synthetic oil recommended, which must also meet GL5.186System may originally be filled with Land Rover PAS 14315 or ATF. Do NOT mix oil types. Use Land Rover PAS 14315 or CASTROL PS FLUID for refill after overhaul.378May also use CASTROL EDGE SPORT 0W-40.682For outside warranty period.885If oil filled, use CASTROL EPX 80W/90, 1.7 litres. If grease filled, use Land Rover Part No. STC 3435. Refer to Dealer.https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[Gold_TD5]

CASTROL MAGNATEC | 2009 - Range (http://www.castrolmagnatec.com.au/range/)
Try this link, I think you will find what I'm talking about here.

Cheers Lionel.

[Mundy]

The information on the link says that the Magnatec Diesel is not suitable for diesel vehicles with particulate filters. Is the centrifugal filter on the TD5 one of those?

Mundy

[Fluids]

No, the DPF (Diesel Particulate Filter) is in the exhaust system. Catches the small particulate matter in the exhaust gases ... the centrifugal filter is for filtering the fine matter in the engine oil.

Kev..

[Andyb43]

As long as the oils meet the specs in the manual it is down to personal preferance.

We used fully synth Mobil in the UK then could only get Magnatec 10w40 in Pakistan but good as it cost $10 for 5 ltrs:D it ran Ok. We have been using Mobil 3000 in Oz as its 5w40 and seems to make the engine more responsive.

We have been changing our oil and both filters every 20 000 km as per our service schedual on our european model and the oil seems fine when it comes out & never burns oil. I agree the harsher conditions in the bush require frequent changes especialy the airfilter but you Australians seem to have been brain washed in to changing at 5000 km WOW!

Even 4X4 did an article some months ago with the conclusion that the shorter oil changes in OZ was to boost after sales servicing to bump up dearler proffits.

The standard oil change in the UK is between 20 000 - 30 000 km.

What do all you Good old diggers think?

The smelly POHM :)

[Jordos D2]

ive`d had 2 4cyl disco`s and 2 td5`s and i have always used castrol rx super we run it in our trucks aswell and have never had any trouble at all
cheers jordo

[fatman]

Here in Greece i use Castrol Softec 5W40,i change it every 10.000 klms,the strange thing is that i can't find any info for Softec - is it discontinued or replace with magnatec? different names for different countries??
Knowdays on the back of the bottle,all you see is how to recycle etc,no info, the same applies for motorcycle oils,i use castrol Activo for my scooter (4 stroke),just no details on back of the bottle,you have to carry a computer and a network connection to go shopping..
Maybe more details on your market (bottle labels etc..)?

[waz]

We have been changing our oil and both filters every 20 000 km as per our service schedual on our european model and the oil seems fine when it comes out & never burns oil. I agree the harsher conditions in the bush require frequent changes especialy the airfilter but you Australians seem to have been brain washed in to changing at 5000 km WOW!

Even 4X4 did an article some months ago with the conclusion that the shorter oil changes in OZ was to boost after sales servicing to bump up dearler proffits.

The standard oil change in the UK is between 20 000 - 30 000 km.

What do all you Good old diggers think?

The smelly POHM :)

Interesting point Andy, but my service book says something like 20000k however used in dusty conditions service intervals should be 10000k.

Waz

[Mundy]

As long as the oils meet the specs in the manual it is down to personal preferance.

We used fully synth Mobil in the UK then could only get Magnatec 10w40 in Pakistan but good as it cost $10 for 5 ltrs:D it ran Ok. We have been using Mobil 3000 in Oz as its 5w40 and seems to make the engine more responsive.

We have been changing our oil and both filters every 20 000 km as per our service schedual on our european model and the oil seems fine when it comes out & never burns oil. I agree the harsher conditions in the bush require frequent changes especialy the airfilter but you Australians seem to have been brain washed in to changing at 5000 km WOW! ..........

........ The standard oil change in the UK is between 20 000 - 30 000 km.

What do all you Good old diggers think?

The smelly POHM :)

Its my view that one of the most important factors on engine life is the oil. I do an oil and filter change on my TD5 every 6.5k km, which means two changes between 20k services. Cost of oil and filters is about $70. This seems to me to be a small cost (considering the overall cost of owning a 4wd) and is probably a good investment.

Mundy

[Andyb43]

Totaly agree oil is cheaper than an engine.

Dident that Ron guy in 4x4 Australia use the same oil through africa then across Russia getting it tested it was still OK. think it was red line or something?

[dmdigital]

You'll find the recommended interval for oil and filters is lower in Australia as the "climate is more harsh than the UK". That said I've yet to see a comparison on whether LR applied this to Africa and other places to. So it could be an Australian thing.

The key thing to remember with the oil and filter changes though is that it's not just the mileage you do but how much work you make the engine do. So driving all day in Low 1 is going to be equivalent of driving all month on the freeway at 110kph. The difference being one gets you 250km the other 20,000km. Either way you need an oil change at the end of it. This is no different to plant equipment where they go on hours of operation to gauge service intervals. But could you imagine the average motorist recording how long they drove for? It is also part of the method by which the "service" lamp comes on, on many newer vehicles (like the D3 etc).

The oil recommended will also start to break down and higher than "normal" operating temperatures will increase this. So in a hot environment (like north Australia) it pays to change the oil more frequently.

As to what oil is best, as mentioned one that meets the specifications required. I have access to Castrol and Penrite at good prices so I stick to those brands for that reason. I would have to import anything else at significant cost.

[ramblingboy42]

my mobile mechanic swears by caltex delo in every vehicle he services....he has hundreds of clients and I've never heard a complaint, so mine runs on delo

[scarry]

Castrol Softec plus was used by the stealers in Brisbane when the TD5 first appeared.It was not available in drums less than 200l,but you could by a Castrol product that was an equivalent oil from elsewhere in 5l containers,but it's name i cannot remember.This oil was later replaced by fully syn Castrol edge,either 5w/30 or 0/w40,both OK for TD5.I would never use magnetec,even though it is in the Castrol catalogue for the TD5.It may be able to be used as last resort & also at shorter drainage intervals.
I am pretty sure fully synthetic oil is specified by LR for this engine.

As my TD5 is under extended warranty,i have it serviced at MR & they use Valvoline fully syn 5w/40 for both the TD5 & the Puma engine.

When using Castrol Edge fully syn 5w/30 in a previous TD5,we were doing a lot of work with Castrol refrigeration oils,& got to know the Castrol reps well.Twice i sampled the oil from the TD5 after doing 15k,after an oil change,& both times it was OK.At 20k it was again sampled & tested & their report was still OK,but should be changed.
Driving was mainly freeway & some around town & off road.No towing,no dusty conditions,&air temps less than 35'c

Just my 2cents worth:)