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gunsports
16th October 2009, 04:54 PM
Amongst the stuff (parts etc.) I bought to rebuild my SII, I purchased two gear boxes complete (part of a package). The one: Serial no. 34313105 'E' appears to be an E series box; but the other is a puzzle. It is stamped: "Marshall" with the number 219467 and XX1. Both boxes are complete; with transfer cases and seem to be in working order. (yet to pull the covers and look inside). The second box puzzles me as I find no reference to it in the manuals I have. Can anybody shed some light on this. The final rebuild will be a SII 2.25 diesel.

Lotz-A-Landies
16th October 2009, 05:22 PM
You will probably find that Marshall was the company that cast the gearbox casing - they were contracted out to numerous manufacturers.

Is the 219467 number in raised letters or stamped? And where is it located. I seem to think that it may be the part number for the selector top as the 219466, 219468 and 219469 all relate to Land Rover gearbox parts.

The 34313105E is weird as that prefix relates to Nth American spec 109 6cyl wagons where it would be usual to list the base model 109 6cyl LHD 348*****E. Are you sure it was not "2" 4313105 E ?

Diana

123rover50
16th October 2009, 05:29 PM
Thats probably right, the cast name on rear capstan winches was Marshall too.

Didiman

gunsports
17th October 2009, 05:32 PM
Thanks for the info so far. About the Marshall box: The letters are raised on the casing and are "MARSHALL"; below that: 219467; below that: XX1. Also a serial no (stamped): 151119756.

The other "E" box has the serial no 34313105 "E" stamped on it and also the raised letters: "HDA4"; below that: 539788.

Externally, these boxes look the same, save for the Marshall box having a 'dog leg' gear (selector) lever, whereas the other one is straight; as on the box fitted to the 2.25 diesel IIa.

Also, amongst the parts that I bought, was a half (forward) a land rover; this one fitted with a six cylinder, side valve engine (no box was fitted when purchased). This one I was told, was a flat bed but the rear of the chassis and bed had rusted away. I bought this one because it had the late series IIa or III wings, bonnet, doors and firewall which was in far better shape than the ones on the (my) IIa (less accident damage and body putty). This one also had the double wipers, driven from a wiper motor fitted to the left side of the firewall (internally).

With this package I got a number of fore and aft axles (complete), one with locking hubs and with the ball joints in very good nick. Also with the bigger brake shoes etc. I also recovered the the vacuum assist brake master cylinder and bought an altenator (new) with a vacuum pump to power it.

As we were tearing down my original IIa for rebuild, it seems that this car was a bit of a mongrel. Parts of the body were ex military vehicle, still with camo paint and real bullet holes in/on it. The original chassis is bent out of shape (previous post) but I managed to get a straight chassis with about no rust on it. This chassis is now being repaired/rebuilt and will form the basis of the rebuilt car.

The rebuild is taking far longer than originally thought but it seems I will have a fair machine when finished. Will still be a mongrel though, as I plan to use the best parts available for the rebuild, even if they don't exactly 'fit' a specific model/year.

foz.in.oz
19th October 2009, 07:09 AM
sounds like fun. Any pics?

gunsports
19th October 2009, 05:18 PM
At this point it is piles of parts (junk) spread over three garages: panels at the body shop; chassis at the welding shop and heaps of parts waiting examination, cleaning, rebuilding and repainting. Not a pleasant picture.

Will post once the rebuild proper starts.