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Sleepy
16th October 2009, 07:56 PM
That's it! I am sick of these oversized machines clogging our society.

It is a miracle that something nasty didn't happen here.

Yahoo!7 News (http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/yaunzpop/popup/?rn=248153&cl=16116395&ch=&src=y7news)

I have even heard that people drop there kids off to school in these things.

Disgrace, I will start a petition.:mad:








:angel:
Seriously ...that woman shouldn't buy a lotto ticket ....she has just used up her luck.

D110V8D
16th October 2009, 08:04 PM
That's pretty messed up.....:(

digger
16th October 2009, 09:08 PM
That's it! I am sick of these oversized machines clogging our society.

It is a miracle that something nasty didn't happen here.

Yahoo!7 News (http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/yaunzpop/popup/?rn=248153&cl=16116395&ch=&src=y7news)

I have even heard that people drop there kids off to school in these things.

Disgrace, I will start a petition.:mad:








:angel:
Seriously ...that woman shouldn't buy a lotto ticket ....she has just used up her luck.





Nah you got it all wrong ban prams..... and stollers.... errr hold on a sec....
<<<nay, hey nay?, yeah.. babe we having any more kids?....NO?.. OK cheers>>>
YEAH BAN 'EM ALL

Luckily mum didnt jump down or lean further and get hit by the train too!
that would have cleared the colesterol from any arteries...

I feel sorry for the poor bugger driving too, how do you think he felt/feels?

so I assume this kid was in training for something special!!

Sleepy
16th October 2009, 09:18 PM
Yes, in all seriousness, the poor Mum and the driver would be in a terrible state now - even though it was a good outcome.

harry
16th October 2009, 09:19 PM
banning trains is not the answer,
work place health and safety have determined that stations are not safe places for people,
so
ban people from stations.

Grockle
16th October 2009, 09:19 PM
I blame Frank Hornby

V8Ian
16th October 2009, 09:27 PM
The driver is being hailed a hero.:o What a load of old cobblers, he applied the emergency brake, and was a passenger from there.:confused:
Using that rationale, I'm a bloody legend.:eek:
Admittedly it's a miracle the child was not hurt, but more by good luck than good management.

digger
16th October 2009, 09:31 PM
I get the points,its a signal that you are on the right track Sleeps;)



Coops!!

I will get fired up soon!, it puts a spark in my boiler to see this and I consider it a miscarraige of justice if someone doesnt steam over to your place right now and railroad your sorry backside out of town!!!


Making puns like that show that you really dont know your station in life, obviously someone has tickets on themselves..... now its time you made tracks.... go on!!!

I dont know, the boys just (when it comes to rail)yards behind!!!

anyway....
like I said Coops no more puns, you wouldnt catch me doing it!

Digger:wasntme:

V8Ian
16th October 2009, 09:33 PM
I blame Frank Hornby
Or his cousin Terry Triang.;)

Sleepy
16th October 2009, 09:34 PM
The driver is being hailed a hero.:o What a load of old cobblers, he applied the emergency brake, and was a passenger from there.:confused:
Using that rationale, I'm a bloody legend.:eek:
Admittedly it's a miracle the child was not hurt, but more by good luck than good management.

He would have had little time to react.
Sounds like media rhetoric Ian. I think suburban train drivers have a tough gig with many of them experiencing horrible stuff - best not discussed here though. :(

V8Ian
16th October 2009, 09:40 PM
He would have had little time to react.
Sounds like media rhetoric Ian. I think suburban train drivers have a tough gig with many of them experiencing horrible stuff - best not discussed here though. :(
Agreed, I was taking a shot at the media sensationalism, rather than the driver.

dullbird
16th October 2009, 10:04 PM
Like Ian just said to me should have a very mild slope on the platform sloping away from the track.....would mean putting in drainage but so what...

got to be safer then having a platform that slopes into the track.....and things like this happening

Sleepy
16th October 2009, 10:04 PM
I blame Frank Hornby


Coops!!

I will get fired up soon!, it puts a spark in my boiler to see this and I consider it a miscarraige of justice if someone doesnt steam over to your place right now and railroad your sorry backside out of town!!!


Making puns like that show that you really dont know your station in life, obviously someone has tickets on themselves..... now its time you made tracks.... go on!!!

I dont know, the boys just (when it comes to rail)yards behind!!!

anyway....
like I said Coops no more puns, you wouldnt catch me doing it!

Digger:wasntme:


Or his cousin Terry Triang.;)


You ought to be on your guard,or else i will be steaming mad,and puff away at training whilst thinking that you are a shunt.:p

And here I was being serious. :(

Regards

Sleeper

V8Ian
16th October 2009, 10:12 PM
And here I was being serious. :(

Regards

Sleeper
Sorry Sleeps, thought you were being normal.:p

harry
16th October 2009, 10:16 PM
Like Ian just said to me should have a very mild slope on the platform sloping away from the track.....would mean putting in drainage but so what...

got to be safer then having a platform that slopes into the track.....and things like this happening
and why not have the government run a training session, fully funded by the taxpayer, to train mothers and other people, like dads, brothers and sisters, carers, relations and ****wits standing around at a station,
about how to hold a pram.

dullbird
16th October 2009, 10:37 PM
and why not have the government run a training session, fully funded by the taxpayer, to train mothers and other people, like dads, brothers and sisters, carers, relations and ****wits standing around at a station,
about how to hold a pram.

Harry accidents happen..... I'm sure you have probably experienced one or two in your life where you have though **** I wont be doing that again.

Lighten up it was only a suggestion to make a platform safer...

Disco_owner
17th October 2009, 12:44 AM
That accident should not have happended and could have been avoided if the Mother had been standing sideways with the Pram paralel to the train tracks not at 90 Deg on the platform if she wanted to adjust her dress/trousers whatever.

Grockle
17th October 2009, 03:52 AM
And here I was being serious. :(

Regards

Sleeper

who's in the chair,I won't be railroaded in to it;)

drivesafe
17th October 2009, 05:01 AM
This had a good outcome but I agree with harry, you can't protect people from themselves and in this case it was a genuine accident.

The woman wasn’t negligent, she simply let go of the handle of the pram to adjust her clothing, the fact that the slop on the platform was that slight that she didn’t realise the pram would roll just helped to make it an accident.

Watch the video, she is already paying for the accident in the fact that I reckon she scared 10 years off her life.

The driver is the innocent party in this but would be having nightmares about now.

As for him applying the breaks and then just becoming a passenger, if only.

Unlike a car driver, where you can try to swerve to miss something or jump harder on the brake pedal, the driver, from the time he throws the brakes to full emergency, see everything from that point on in slow motion, and it ain’t a good feeling.

Like the woman, he will remember that for the rest of his life.

harry
17th October 2009, 06:49 AM
Harry accidents happen..... I'm sure you have probably experienced one or two in your life where you have though **** I wont be doing that again.

Lighten up it was only a suggestion to make a platform safer...

eh' iwasa makinadajok,
idona wanna govermint to payforada retrainin, makada people payeh'

i wasn't going to bother with this story,
but now i will.

i have a friend in melbourne whose daughter [many years ago] when she was about 18 had a similar accident, only it wasn't a pram, it was her.

i forget now what sort of train was involved, however i seem to remember it as one of the old red rattlers with the outward hinged doors.
the accident happened at cheltenham station.
as the train was either entering or leaving the station [i told you it was a long time ago] she was collected by part of the train, spun around and fell off the platform and went down between the carriages of the moving train
[the train driver was not aware of this] and when they found her, she was unconcious, and unmarked.
she had dropped below the moving train and was laid out in the space between the rail and the platform wall.
sometimes there is a god.

Rosscoe68
17th October 2009, 07:20 AM
darwin's theory of natural selection has a lot to go on, however humanity won't allow natural selection to weed out the stupid or weak.

hey, who said that ?

stevo68
17th October 2009, 08:53 AM
darwin's theory of natural selection has a lot to go on, however humanity won't allow natural selection to weed out the stupid or weak.

hey, who said that ? Seriously.....have a real hard think about what you have written. Every day I find more and more disapointment in the human race....and comments like this one fall into that category.

As for banning trains is an inane answer to a situation as this, what next ban cars because people have accidents. The mentality in a situation like this is thank God a young child's life was saved no matter, the how, why or what. Not puns and immature rhetoric....bloody hell,

Regards

Stevo

Sleepy
17th October 2009, 09:30 AM
That accident should not have happended and could have been avoided if the Mother had been standing sideways with the Pram paralel to the train tracks not at 90 Deg on the platform if she wanted to adjust her dress/trousers whatever.

No accident should happen - but unfortunately they do.

Sleepy
17th October 2009, 09:43 AM
Wow this thread has got a little too serious. As most of you gathered, my original post was actually a dig at the do-gooders who want to ban 4wds every time there is an accident involving one.

Banning trains would be an equivalent "call" were the same dropkicks to "judge" this unfortunate event.


The mother's story could be:


That damn foot brake on the pram is faulty.
I didn't realise there was a slope on the platform.
I shouldn't have worn these trousers
If I had only bought that Land Rover I wouldn't have to catch the train.


As mentioned this event will have casualties: Mother, Driver, onlookers.

Judge Not Lest Ye Be Judged

(Or translated to we're all d!&kheads at some point in our life.)

drivesafe
17th October 2009, 10:31 AM
Wow this thread has got a little too serious. As most of you gathered, my original post was actually a dig at the do-gooders who want to ban 4wds every time there is an accident involving one.

Banning trains would be an equivalent "call" were the same dropkicks to "judge" this unfortunate event.
I see your point but they no longer have bull bars on trains so the do-gooders would have a slightly harder time trying to get them banned.


The mother's story could be:


That damn foot brake on the pram is faulty.
I didn't realise there was a slope on the platform.
I shouldn't have worn these trousers
If I had only bought that Land Rover I wouldn't have to catch the train.


Hit the nail on the head and if she got a Landy, the next time do-gooders tried to ban 4x4s, she could legitimately argue her kid was far safer in her Landy than it would be on public transport

V8Ian
17th October 2009, 10:52 AM
This had a good outcome but I agree with harry, you can't protect people from themselves and in this case it was a genuine accident.

The woman wasn’t negligent, she simply let go of the handle of the pram to adjust her clothing, the fact that the slop on the platform was that slight that she didn’t realise the pram would roll just helped to make it an accident.

Watch the video, she is already paying for the accident in the fact that I reckon she scared 10 years off her life.

The driver is the innocent party in this but would be having nightmares about now.

As for him applying the breaks and then just becoming a passenger, if only.

Unlike a car driver, where you can try to swerve to miss something or jump harder on the brake pedal, the driver, from the time he throws the brakes to full emergency, see everything from that point on in slow motion, and it ain’t a good feeling.

Like the woman, he will remember that for the rest of his life.
My comment about the driver being a passenger war not intended to be derogetory or downplay his role in the incident. The driver did all that he could, that would make it hard for him, once he had applied the brake he could do no more; as you say, every thing would be in slo-mo for him.
I have a friend who is a train driver. He unfortunately had a person commit suicide by jumping in front of his train. He got all the support/councelling he needed at the time, but a year later he had to relive the incident in the Coroner's Court, without any help.

willem
17th October 2009, 11:12 AM
eh' iwasa makinadajok,
idona wanna govermint to payforada retrainin, makada people payeh'

i wasn't going to bother with this story,
but now i will.

i have a friend in melbourne whose daughter [many years ago] when she was about 18 had a similar accident, only it wasn't a pram, it was her.

i forget now what sort of train was involved, however i seem to remember it as one of the old red rattlers with the outward hinged doors.
the accident happened at cheltenham station.
as the train was either entering or leaving the station [i told you it was a long time ago] she was collected by part of the train, spun around and fell off the platform and went down between the carriages of the moving train
[the train driver was not aware of this] and when they found her, she was unconcious, and unmarked.
she had dropped below the moving train and was laid out in the space between the rail and the platform wall.
sometimes there is a god.

I remember a similar event a Kelmscott station in WA when I was a kid (MANY years ago!). A schoolgirl went to get on the train and grabbed the door handle and pulled the handle down. It was one of those old WAGR green carriages with small compartments. The door handles were levers that you pulled down. This one did and her hand slipped off and she fell between the carriage and the platform. I remember a man carrying her away - she did not seem badly hurt but I was only young and it was a long time ago.

I saw it happen just in front of me, and something like that is a bit like slo mo, even tho it happens very quickly.

Willem

austastar
17th October 2009, 11:39 AM
Hi,
we stand so close to the edge of train platforms with out a care in the world.
Yet 'over the edge' can be fatal for a few seconds every so often, especially with some of the faster trains.
There is a video of a man crossing over the rails (instead of using the pedestrian over pass) to go from one platform to the other, when a highspeed train passes through.
I suspect it is in rural France somewhere.
He was nearly a bug on a windscreen - it was so close, the train just appeared from nowhere.
Potential danger is not always apparent, and some of the railway infastructure has changed little since the days of steam.
We should all be more paranoid.

drivesafe
17th October 2009, 01:19 PM
My comment about the driver being a passenger war not intended to be derogetory or downplay his role in the incident.

And It wasn’t taken that way, I, as an ex-train driver, know what the driver would be going through.

MickS
18th October 2009, 05:03 PM
Hi,
we stand so close to the edge of train platforms with out a care in the world.
Yet 'over the edge' can be fatal for a few seconds every so often, especially with some of the faster trains.
There is a video of a man crossing over the rails (instead of using the pedestrian over pass) to go from one platform to the other, when a highspeed train passes through.
I suspect it is in rural France somewhere.
He was nearly a bug on a windscreen - it was so close, the train just appeared from nowhere.
Potential danger is not always apparent, and some of the railway infastructure has changed little since the days of steam.
We should all be more paranoid.


That's why they are called whispering death...:no2: