New Defender reliability??.

[sumo]

Howdy, Just for interest sake i was wondering how the later defenders were shaping up in the reliability stakes, A bare bones Toyo is not to far away in price from the deefer, so its gotta be a concern.



Cheers Sumo:D

[dmdigital]

Compare apples with apples!

A bare bones Tojo doesn't have A/C, central locking, electric front windows, ABS, TC, constant all wheel drive, alloys, split folding rear seat, inertia reel centre rear seat belt... and costs about $10,000 more:eek:

Oh and my Defenders been very good. Better than a lot of the new Tojo's we have at work.

[Blknight.aus]

from what I hear the deefers are doing better than the toymotas

[sumo]

from what I hear the deefers are doing better than the toymotas

Thats good to hear!!, There is a few more getting around now as well.

Sumo.

[stig0000]

from about 08.5 on there prity good, the 07 ones we still have coming back with probs, and most only have about 40-50k on them,,

[sumo]

Compare apples with apples!

A bare bones Tojo doesn't have A/C, central locking, electric front windows, ABS, TC, constant all wheel drive, alloys, split folding rear seat, inertia reel centre rear seat belt... and costs about $10,000 more:eek:

Oh and my Defenders been very good. Better than a lot of the new Tojo's we have at work.

WHOA There Pal!!!, Not criticising but the deefer has had a hard time in the sales department, i do own one you know, and a tojo,....LOL;)


Cheers Sumo.

[stig0000]

WHOA There Pal!!!, Not criticising but the deefer has had a hard time in the sales department, i do own one you know, and a tojo,....LOL;)


Cheers Sumo.


iv herd as much as 200tojo to 1 fender sold:o:o

but i think its more lik 100-1,

[dullbird]

WHOA There Pal!!!,
Not criticising but the deefer has had a hard time in the sales department, i do own one you know, and a tojo,....LOL;)


Cheers Sumo.

yep and I think you will find mainly due to lack of dealer support;)

[Scouse]

The new Defenders are great.

I haven't seen one towed in all week.









Sorry, I forgot it's only Monday :(.

[Xtreme]

yep and I think you will find mainly due to lack of dealer support;)

Or to take it one step further, lack of a decent dealer network. ;)

[dmdigital]

How many Tojo owner's are any happier about their deal servicing. They just have many more dealer to choose from.

As for Toyota sales, I'd love to see the figures for LC's and Hilux sales if you removed the corporate sales from the equation.

[JohnR]

Me very happy :D 51,000km's and still going strong :) No major's at all in fact it has never ceased to travel forward except for that one time when I REALLY pushed the limit of the reserve fuel tank :oops2:

As for dealers. I can only talk of mine and there tops :cool: Southside LR have always looked after my car brilliantly :clap2:

As for the Toyo thing I am not going to enter into that debate except to say, my car looks better :p



Cheers,

[spudboy]

No dramas with mine either, and mine is an '07 model too. Ever since the water/dirt in the fuel issues were reported I have run with an "extender" on the fuel breather so (who knows) this may have helped.

It's had a new sump under warranty (design issue needed to be sorted) but it has been pretty much rock solid. Only had farm and sand use though. No rock-climbing.

[PAT303]

My work hilux had more problems in the 12 months I had it than my defender has had in 11 years and 400,000k's. Pat

[rovercare]

My work hilux had more problems in the 12 months I had it than my defender has had in 11 years and 400,000k's. Pat

All those years coming undone with the L322:D

[Scallops]

I've got the first Puma released in Qld, and possibly Australia (October 22 2007) - I have had no issues that have required urgent care other than brake vac pump, which was/is a common problem.

I love it - it's going like a German band.

[johnclv]

yep and I think you will find mainly due to lack of dealer support;)

Supply and demand - rules of economics

If there was a demand there would be more suppliers. If LR had good reputation then more would buy and there would be more suppliers/dealer and more competition etc

Since they don't, there and not to many dealers ( and declining ).

[PAT303]

All those years coming undone with the L322:D

Yeh I doesn't like being parked next to mobile phone towers. Pat

[Scouse]

I haven't seen one towed in all week.









Sorry, I forgot it's only Monday :(.It's now Tuesday & guess what happened............

[PAT303]

So whats the problem? Pat

[Disco_owner]

haha , a new defencer was towed in Scouse , have I guess right ?:D

[dullbird]

and to his shock horror it wasn't ours.....:D

[Barra1]

iv herd as much as 200tojo to 1 fender sold:o:o

but i think its more lik 100-1,

Yeah - that's a bit like a shepherd and a mob of sheep.:)

One smart shepherd and a 100 silly sheep following each other.;)

[sumo]

Yeah - that's a bit like a shepherd and a mob of sheep.:)

One smart shepherd and a 100 silly sheep following each other.;)


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Cheers Sumo

[Captain_Rightfoot]

Anyone heard of lemmings?

Can I say that if you break down out "there" then likely, regardless of what you drive you will need parts. Given all the variations of models and model variants, even if you owned a Toyota, and broke down outside a Toyota dealership, the most likely outcome is that they will also have to order parts from the nearest big smoke.

So, if you own a LR, it just means you can find any mechanic to diagnose the fault (if it is not already known), and then call a LR specialist like MR automotive. These guys specialise in getting the hand of GOD to deliver parts to remote areas in astonishingly good time.

So there really is no difference.

What is more LR products tend to be toughened for remote work, whereas toyotas don't appear to be. A friend had one with him on a trip that popped a fanbelt in some water. They had a spare, but this brand new hi-lux declared a "fault" and would not re-start until they could get it to a toyota dealership. I've never heard of this kind of thing with LR product.

[PAT303]

All new toyota's are like that,you can fix anything on them but you still need a dealer to re-boot the computer and you can get any LR part off the shelf,tojo have very few parts outside Melbourne and Sydney. Pat

[Scouse]

haha , a new defencer was towed in Scouse , have I guess right ?:DYep, the owner's son is a member here (I believe) & the car is quite "famous" but that's as far as I'll go.

It just has a leaky brake vacuum pump & gave the engine bay a rustproofing treatment.