View Full Version : Do you think this is a stupid Idea??
dullbird
21st October 2009, 08:01 PM
walking down the road tonight I came across some stuff on our street that has been put out for council pickup....in it was two seat for a car
I have no idea what they are out of but said to Ian they look like nice seats for the disco...I later went and knocked on the door asking if they were for pick up (which they were) and did they mind if I took a seat to measure it up.
no probs
the seats are really nice....now they are electric (of course I have no idea if they work or not. but anyway I measured up the seat for space and the cushions are exactly the same width etc as the orginal disco....the rails are almost the same width out by a couple of mil. but the rails are longer by about 10cm.....
do you think it would be possible to put my seat rails on these seats?
or if not possible would it be silly to think that the back rest and base cushion could be used using the frame work of my own original seats.....
would be really nice to get them to fit as they are very much like the disco seats only slightly firmer with a bit more lumba support and a fraction more of a bucket
here is a pic of them they are leather and swede mix with a touch of normal fabric
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/10/458.jpg
Oh they have side airbags too...so would need to disarm and remove them if that is possible
Thoughts....if everyone thinks it is a stupid Idea I will go and put them back out for the council to pick up
cookiesa
21st October 2009, 08:20 PM
I replaced the seats in my bj40 a few years back with some from a mazda people mover, great move
Technically it will/may need engineering approval of course but that aside you would want to remove the airbag system if possible, crash shop would be able to advise on how or do it for you safely.
The electric seats may be asimple or cmplicated item to get working depending on the vehicle/system. Most are nothing more than a heavy live feed wire (usually run through a relay which is switched by the ignition).
For the runners we built new heavy duty ones from steel (of course fairly easy and straight forward in a bj40! lol)
Hope that helps a bit.
Good luck!
Bush65
21st October 2009, 08:41 PM
Should be possible.
clean32
21st October 2009, 09:01 PM
a totally silly idea. disgusting really. distorting a disco with some thing like that. and you know a disco isnt perfect but it is a close 2nd or 3rd to an isuzu county.
i will be around in the morning to help you put them out. it the least i can do to help OK LOL
abaddonxi
21st October 2009, 10:25 PM
Resell them on ebay and buy yourself something that fits easily.
cal415
21st October 2009, 10:31 PM
Wow nice find,, as someone else said, if you decide to offload them you will get a decent price on ebay for them, they only thing i dont like about them is the color, not sure how that would look in a disco.
Rangier Rover
21st October 2009, 10:43 PM
Nice Find! If you adapt them in and a RTA inspector picks up on a rego audit you will have to get them engineered. I've had it happen:(
RobHay
21st October 2009, 10:55 PM
What the hell is a Rego Audit...Here in God's Country we don't have them, so ya gonna have to move up in the world and get closer to the Almighty and that way you can put any damned set of seats in a Disco you want.
Rangier Rover
21st October 2009, 10:59 PM
What the hell is a Rego Audit...Here in God's Country we don't have them, so ya gonna have to move up in the world and get closer to the Almighty and that way you can put any damned set of seats in a Disco you want.
Nah.... I'll put up with it wile we can engineer big lifts and tyres:angel:
dullbird
22nd October 2009, 07:29 AM
Wow nice find,, as someone else said, if you decide to offload them you will get a decent price on ebay for them, they only thing i dont like about them is the color, not sure how that would look in a disco.
hey Cal the colour probably didn't come out well on the photo...but they are beige, as is the interior of my disco.....its not going to be an exact match of course but rmembering what they looked like in the daylight they were not far off my seats maybe slightly darker but I can't remember I have had seat covers on them now for so long forgotton what they look like:D
isuzurover
22nd October 2009, 01:52 PM
You may need to modify/install new mounts rather than modify the seat brackets. When I installed replacement seats in QLD a few years back, I was told that no cutting/welding/modification to the seat brackets allowed. I had to keep the brackets original (or looking original ;)) and modify the seat box. They required 75x75x3mm steel plates with rounded corners (basically big square washers) under each mount point. All fixings must be class 8.8 metric or higher. To make my life easier I welded the nuts to the steel plates and riveted them to the underside of the seat box to make them captive.
So yes, all should be possible, but will need engineering. If the seat belts are attached to the seat as it seems in the pics then the engineer may be more stringent.
NFI on the airbags, sorry.
.Here in God's Country we don't have them, ...
I lived in QLD for 25 years and never found God. Please provide proof of his/her/its QLD residence ;) :p
Utemad
22nd October 2009, 02:30 PM
You may need to modify/install new mounts rather than modify the seat brackets. When I installed replacement seats in QLD a few years back, I was told that no cutting/welding/modification to the seat brackets allowed. I had to keep the brackets original (or looking original ;)) and modify the seat box. They required 75x75x3mm steel plates with rounded corners (basically big square washers) under each mount point. All fixings must be class 8.8 metric or higher. To make my life easier I welded the nuts to the steel plates and riveted them to the underside of the seat box to make them captive.
So yes, all should be possible, but will need engineering. If the seat belts are attached to the seat as it seems in the pics then the engineer may be more stringent.
If it is a pre 97 Disco then you can remove the seat box but if it is a 97 onwards Disco then the seat base is part of the floorpan and the belts are also attached to the seat.
I intend to do as you say and make a newpair of seat boxs for my 94 Disco to fit my XR6 seats but have yet to get around to it.
Redback
22nd October 2009, 06:02 PM
90 what about the 90, they would look great in the 90;)
dullbird
22nd October 2009, 09:17 PM
90 what about the 90, they would look great in the 90;)
baz I actually find the seats in the defender quite comfortable, no need to change them:D.........
RRV80
23rd October 2009, 04:09 PM
they look like they are out of a Lexus IS300
lambrover
23rd October 2009, 08:46 PM
dullbird, to my knowledge the airbag/side air bag thing in the seats would need a trigger ie, the car thay came out off would have been wired up to crumple zones with triggers to set the airbags off, when you fit them to your car they would not be connected to these trigger even if you use the electrical seat adjustments.
dullbird
23rd October 2009, 10:41 PM
dullbird, to my knowledge the airbag/side air bag thing in the seats would need a trigger ie, the car thay came out off would have been wired up to crumple zones with triggers to set the airbags off, when you fit them to your car they would not be connected to these trigger even if you use the electrical seat adjustments.
Yeah mate can appreciate that but would rather remove something that is never going to get used especially with an explosive in it.
alien
24th October 2009, 03:20 PM
G'day,
My under standing of the side air bags, as an ex SES road rescue member.
For the air bag to deploy it would require an electrical input.
All the SRS(suplimentry restrant systems) wires are covered in a YELLOW sleave to identify them. Do not ever use these as a power source.
Under the seat there should be two looms, one for the seat controls and one for the SRS(Yellow sleave).
Triger info is feed to a ECU usually under the centre console which then sends a electrical paulse to the air bag required, if it's not needed it dosn't "go off".
SRS is often refered to as air bags, but also includes seat belt pretensioners.
Does your disco have pretensioners? My d2 does but I don't know which run yours is( I could serch but hey, it's Sat and I'm in lazy mode).
I would be happy to use them as they are subject to the seat belt pretensioner(the new seat is possibly fitted with them).
A motor trimer could strip the cover off to remove the bag itself and you'd have to pack the void with foam before refitting cover.
Note to outhers.. if you fit an after market seat cover to one of these seats make sure it's air bag compatible.
You don't want it feeding across your back between the cover and the seat in an accident pushing you into the dash:eek:
Hope this helps, PM me if you have any queries and i'll send you my Ph.no..
Cheers, Kyle.
dullbird
24th October 2009, 03:30 PM
G'day,
My under standing of the side air bags, as an ex SES road rescue member.
For the air bag to deploy it would require an electrical input.
All the SRS(suplimentry restrant systems) wires are covered in a YELLOW sleave to identify them. Do not ever use these as a power source.
Under the seat there should be two looms, one for the seat controls and one for the SRS(Yellow sleave).
Triger info is feed to a ECU usually under the centre console which then sends a electrical paulse to the air bag required, if it's not needed it dosn't "go off".
SRS is often refered to as air bags, but also includes seat belt pretensioners.
Does your disco have pretensioners? My d2 does but I don't know which run yours is( I could serch but hey, it's Sat and I'm in lazy mode).
I would be happy to use them as they are subject to the seat belt pretensioner(the new seat is possibly fitted with them).
A motor trimer could strip the cover off to remove the bag itself and you'd have to pack the void with foam before refitting cover.
Note to outhers.. if you fit an after market seat cover to one of these seats make sure it's air bag compatible.
You don't want it feeding across your back between the cover and the seat in an accident pushing you into the dash:eek:
Hope this helps, PM me if you have any queries and i'll send you my Ph.no..
Cheers, Kyle.
I'm pretty sur emine doesn't have pretensioners....mines a D1 and of the year that airbags could be optioned not factory...So i'm guessing not even though I have both airbags in mine.
as for the airbag and motor trimmers...the side airbag has what looks like an access panel so (although we haven't attempted to take it off) we think you may be able to access the airbag without ripping the seat apart to get to it.
alien
24th October 2009, 03:37 PM
I'm pretty sur emine doesn't have pretensioners....mines a D1 and of the year that airbags could be optioned not factory...So i'm guessing not even though I have both airbags in mine.
as for the airbag and motor trimmers...the side airbag has what looks like an access panel so (although we haven't attempted to take it off) we think you may be able to access the airbag without ripping the seat apart to get to it.
Got some one coming over soon with a D1 (You know, the one that runs like .ummm....) so i'll stick my head inside also.
Access panel, thats just cheating:p
Cheers.
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