Game Mudflap brackets

[Northern Lander]

Hi all I am new to the forum, I own a 1977 Game however the rear x-member was a mess, what I am after are some pics or info on where the extra brackets that hold the mudflaps are located, all help is appreciated, I will post a pic this weekend, have just had a sparewheel carrier made.
Brendan

[TJWA]

Welcome to the forum! I'm sure someone out there with a Game will be able to help you out soon.

Looking forward to your photo of the spare wheel carrier.

[Timj]

Just took a few photos for you. Let me know if they don't show what you need.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/10/396.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/10/397.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/10/398.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/10/399.jpg

Welcome to AULRO and the Game owners club.

TimJ.

[Northern Lander]

Thanks for the pics, very informative, I have added one of the spare wheel carrier I had made. My poor Game hasnt run in 4 years, A disco took its place, but now its gone the game is getting a make over :)

[Northern Lander]

19835

Ha ha worked it out, now I will go find some pics of my Game to post.
Also TimJ what size are the tyres on your Game?

[Timj]

Tyres are 31x10.5x15 Cooper S/T

Looking forward to the pictures. I am heading off on a 1200km trip to pick up another Game tomorrow morning. Nothing wrong with having two is there?

TimJ.

[pop058]

Tyres are 31x10.5x15 Cooper S/T

Looking forward to the pictures. I am heading off on a 1200km trip to pick up another Game tomorrow morning. Nothing wrong with having two is there?

TimJ.

You know that two will never be enough Tim. Looking forward to the (road trip AND Game) pics.

Paul

PS tks for the other pic.

[Northern Lander]

19838

Managed to find a pic, this is from about 5 years ago, currently the game is a rolling chassis, but should be up and running again by christmas :)

And true you can never have to many Games, I nearly bought one the other day, only space prevented me :(

[Timj]

Now that is one good looking Game! Wish the paintwork and barwork on mine were anywhere near that good. I still have a lot of touching up to do but then I go and use it off road and mess it up a bit more :).

[Timj]

Hey Paul, if I am coming through Bundy at a reasonable hour on the way back I might drop by and show it to you. Maybe a cuppa to keep me going to Brisbane? Should be coming past Thursday afternoon.

Tim.

[pop058]

Hey Paul, if I am coming through Bundy at a reasonable hour on the way back I might drop by and show it to you. Maybe a cuppa to keep me going to Brisbane? Should be coming past Thursday afternoon.

Tim.

The kettle is on.

Paul

[Northern Lander]

Update time, waiting on the original chassis that was repaired to arrive then I can start reassembling the game.
also have just had the bumperetts remade, the originals had suffered from to many trips to frazer!!
Pics to follow as soon as reassembly starts.

[Northern Lander]

well took a backward step when I had to move the game due to where it was being stored being sold.
here are some pics of its new tyres and remade spare wheel carrier and bumperetts fitted to see if they need adjustment.

[Northern Lander]

Well its been a while, mostly due to rain and not having a shed anymore :(
The game is mostly back together and now just waiting on some more finances to fix the gearbox and it will be back on the road soon :D fingers crossed

[Timj]

Looking good. Hope it all comes together soon for you :).

[Landy Smurf]

19838

Managed to find a pic, this is from about 5 years ago, currently the game is a rolling chassis, but should be up and running again by christmas :)

And true you can never have to many Games, I nearly bought one the other day, only space prevented me :(
looks good

[GAME77]

I have a 1977 game that i have owned for about 5 years. I have given it a mechanical rebuild which included removing the 186 holden and re-installing original motor with a few subtle upgrades to increase the cruising speed.I have given her a gearbox rebuild, fitted parabolic suspension and installed millitary axles.I am keen to chat with any other game owners. Can anyone tell me how many were made? i have been told that there was less than 150 made.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=25430&stc=1&d=1273839327

[Killer]

Not sure on numbers built, but on your ID plate in front of the gearbox there is a number stamped on it at the top, I believe this is the build number, mine is 288, TimJ's is 282 from memory. Mine is a 2/78 build. It is great to see another Game on the road, well done.

Cheers, Mick.

[Northern Lander]

These are 3 plates from my game and 2 others
159 is about to be renovated and is original 1977
170 is mine 1977 model
289 is being broken and is a 1978

It would be interesting to make a log of all game chassis numbers and make numbers to see what is out there

[Timj]

As Killer says my 1978 is No 282 and the 1977 is No 211. I'm not sure how much those numbers have to do with the order they were built in or if they were just stamped in some random manner like you would expect from Landrover :). The reason I say that is that mine is a 5/78 build date and is 282 while Killer's is a 2/78 build date and is 288. Also Killer's has different wheels (still Sunraysia 15x8) but has been in his family since new so he can guarantee that they are the wheels it came with.

That's really interesting to see the number 159 as that would be the lowest number I have seen. One other I know of in Ocean Shores is about 170 I believe.

I have a copy of an article that reckons there were as few as 100 made but the stamped numbers seem to suggest about 300 since they were only made up to 1978 and high 200s seems to be the go for the 78 ones (if the numbers actually run in any sequence). It would be interesting to know if they started at 1 or maybe at 100 and it also would be interesting to know if there are any from 1976 out there.

I am going to start another thread to see if we can get some sort of register of the numbers and other details as I would really like to know.

TimJ.

[GAME77]

The number of mine is 166 and it was manufactured in 05/77.

[Killer]

As Killer says my 1978 is No 282 and the 1977 is No 211. I'm not sure how much those numbers have to do with the order they were built in or if they were just stamped in some random manner like you would expect from Landrover :). The reason I say that is that mine is a 5/78 build date and is 282 while Killer's is a 2/78 build date and is 288. Also Killer's has different wheels (still Sunraysia 15x8) but has been in his family since new so he can guarantee that they are the wheels it came with.

That's really interesting to see the number 159 as that would be the lowest number I have seen. One other I know of in Ocean Shores is about 170 I believe.

I have a copy of an article that reckons there were as few as 100 made but the stamped numbers seem to suggest about 300 since they were only made up to 1978 and high 200s seems to be the go for the 78 ones (if the numbers actually run in any sequence). It would be interesting to know if they started at 1 or maybe at 100 and it also would be interesting to know if there are any from 1976 out there.

I am going to start another thread to see if we can get some sort of register of the numbers and other details as I would really like to know.

TimJ.

Tim, I was wondering as the vehicles were CKD's whether the build date could be when they were manufactured in Sulihull, and by time they came out here the order could have got a bit mixed up.
Ours has not quite been in the family from new, Rillis's Father got it in 1982, so was about 4 years old, so it is concievable that the wheels could have been changed in that time, but I don't see why you would.
A register would be great.

Cheers, Mick.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Tim, I was wondering as the vehicles were CKD's whether the build date could be when they were manufactured in Sulihull, 'The GAME were an Australian production only. Probably only the plastic dash, the rear door and the station wagon window panels would have been pressed in Solihull. Pressed Metals Corp, the assembly plant in Enfield NSW had been pressing panels from the 1950's so it was mainly the engines, transmission and instruments that were ex-UK. Even the wheels had been Australian manufactured since 1953 and the wheels on the GAME were no exception.

AFAIK all the GAME wheels were the 10 spoke (individually welded to the rim), not the later Sunraysia brand wheels with the pressed 8 hole centre.

Numbers are stamped at the end of the assembly line, not in the CKD kits before shipping. An out of sequence vehicle probably had some fit or finish problem that had to be rectified prior to the compliance plate being affixed.

[Timj]

Thanks Lotz-A-Landies,

I love to hear the information available from people on this forum. When no one can give me a straight answer as to questions like how many were made I find myself just having to try and chase it down :). Your help is greatly appreciated. If the panels were stamped in Australia where were the chassis made?

TimJ.

[Timj]

The GAME were an Australian production only. Probably only the plastic dash, the rear door and the station wagon window panels would have been pressed in Solihull. Pressed Metals Corp, the assembly plant in Enfield NSW had been pressing panels from the 1950's so it was mainly the engines, transmission and instruments that were ex-UK. Even the wheels had been Australian manufactured since 1953 and the wheels on the GAME were no exception.


Funnily enough I was just reading one of the articles I have (Land Rover Enthusiast Feb 2001, posted in the thread about the register of Games) and the author states they were imported fully built. Not sure where his information would come from though.


AFAIK all the GAME wheels were the 10 spoke (individually welded to the rim), not the later Sunraysia brand wheels with the pressed 8 hole centre.

The wheels on Killer's Game are a pressed centre but are still 10 spoke while all the other Game wheels I have seen are the individually welded ones.

Just more to add to the confusion :).

TimJ.

[Northern Lander]

There is also another 77 Game at Techno British in Brisbane, it still has everything except the proper game rims. It was a very nice looking game until they started to modify it :( but none the less another game

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Funnily enough I was just reading one of the articles I have (Land Rover Enthusiast Feb 2001, posted in the thread about the register of Games) and the author states they were imported fully built. Not sure where his information would come from though.
<snip>.Tim
PMC rarely if ever assembled 88" station wagons so there is a possibility that the vehicles were imported to a special order, however the Game was a marketing ploy by Leyland/Jaguar Rover Australia (whichever it was at the time) and AFAIK the yellow colour was the same as one of the options on the Moke Californian that were being built at the Zetland plant. The rims were Australian, not sure of the manufacturer but it may have been Dowling's Tyre Service in Fairfield who were also doing a five spoke wheel. In 1976 for my 253V8 SIIa 109, I chose the 5 spoke style because I didn't like the 10 spoke style, my other choice. So the 10 spoke rims pre-dated production of the Game.

[GAME77]

OK guys just to throw a curve ball at ya. My great grandfather owned a lwb series 3 that had the game colour code. It had everything from the black on the front of the guards to the silver up on the bulkhead. My father has a picture in his lounge of it parked next to his series three of the time and from the front it is identical to my game. Has anyone heard or seen this before? We would love to know why his long wheel base had the very distinct colour coding of the game.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

A few options come to mind.

You could order special production vehicles from PMC if you were prepared to wait, it is why many civilian 109 ended up with one ton chassis. The wheels were available aftermarket and all the trim panels were standard options, usually for 109 wagons but the door trim could be fitted to any Land Rover.

Secondly the Department of Civil Aviation always had bright yellow Land Rovers, PMC was likely to use the yellow colour they were using for the Game for other production Land Rovers, including DCA. But at production it would not have had the silver firewall or black on the front guards.

Someone decided to make a 109" game after they purchased the vehicle.

Addit: On the 10 spoke rims. 10 Spoke 15" rims were available for both Land Rover and for Range Rover, while they look the same the offset for the Range Rover ones were different to the ones for the Land Rover including the Game.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Thanks Lotz-A-Landies,
<snip>
Your help is greatly appreciated. If the panels were stamped in Australia where were the chassis made?
TimJ.Tim
Where the chassis were made I'm not 100% positive. I do know that the Au Mil chassis in the SIIa were unique to Australia at that time so likely they were made here and we also know that when the Enfield plant closed, the welding jigs for the Station Wagon variant 109 were bought by a member of the LROC Sydney Branch.
However in the SIII 109 where the side rails are clamshell halves welded together, it may have been the case that the PMC factory only assembled and welded the chassis from components shipped from the UK.
As you know the SIII Game has a 4 plate corner welded chassis like all the Land Rovers before it, and PMC did have the ability to do that, but whether they did I'm not yet sure.

It's on the find out list! :)

[Northern Lander]

Got the shock absorbers fitted today, all fun and games especially the bottoms, but persistance won in the end :) eventually!
now onto the brakes and tidy engine bay up.

[Lakey]

Guy's you may be interested in the attached article from my old mag collection. The second scan is from somewhere on the net I think, possibly even from here at AULRO.

The Sunraysia rims changed designs somewhere early 78 - I bought 5 at the time and got one that was a different design to the other four. Not that dissimilar looking cause I did not notice the difference for a couple of years until I had two sitting side by side next to each other.

Cheers
Lakey