going bigger... does 37 into 90 go?

[Psimpson7]

Well as everyone else is upgrading, I dropped in to bother Grimace earlier..... And this was the result of our testing. :)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/10/174.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/10/175.jpg

Will be pricing up a set of M8090 competition compound Creepies in 37x12.5.x16 tommorow and as long as the buyer for my 35's comes through at the weekend we should be changing

ETA they will not be used on the road atall.

[long stroke]

Awesome!!!:twisted:
Now this should test those standard axles if you havn't up graded yet:angel:

TIM.

[Hendrik]

That looks awesome...can't wait to see it in action.

[grover69]

LOOKS :D:oGREAT PETER , THE 37'S PARTY HAS STARTED.

[Grimace]

Shotgun first dibs on the stickies! :D

They look sweet on your junk dude, w00t w00t!!!

[Busman]

Oh Yeah !!!:twisted::twisted:
How good does that look !!!
This could be fun to watch !!
Man whats next 40's for the extreme tyre brigade !!:eek::eek::twisted:
Maybe some breakage may be close at hand:angel::D

[buzz66]

Bugger me....some more axle snapping coming right up.

[Grimace]

Oh Yeah !!!:twisted::twisted:
How good does that look !!!
This could be fun to watch !!
Man whats next 40's for the extreme tyre brigade !!:eek::eek::twisted:
Maybe some breakage may be close at hand:angel::D

Beleive me the idea of 40" stickies has crossed my mind many a times, but I think I will be happier with 37" Stickies (hence why I am goin to steal Petes!:D)


p.s. did i mention that petes truck looks horn with the 37s on it! :D

[Camo]

Very impressive Pete

37's all the way mate! go for it!

PS. Nothing wrong with rover axles.. they will be fine:D

Camo

[Outlaw]

Looking great Pete!!!

Oh and i guess credit where credits due.... Brother Grimace (as he will now be known) was the leader of the pack in the "35's is too small" group :p

[Mudsloth]

Very impressive Pete

37's all the way mate! go for it!

PS. Nothing wrong with rover axles.. they will be fine:D

Camo

The front axles will be fine but i can almost guarantee the rear drive axle wil snap. Get a set of laminated 2 piece axles. I speak from experiance, I've been running 37 inch super swampers for awhile now. Front axles, cvs, diffs all bullet proof, rear axles bad business. Check out what you can do on a set of 37s with 2 locked diffs.

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[disco_thrasher]

The front axles will be fine but i can almost guarantee the rear drive axle wil snap. Get a set of laminated 2 piece axles. I speak from experiance, I've been running 37 inch super swampers for awhile now. Front axles, cvs, diffs all bullet proof, rear axles bad business. Check out what you can do on a set of 37s with 2 locked diffs.

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AWESOME LOVED THE LAST ONE LETS JUST GET RID OF SOME MUD WATER SO WE CAN GET THROUGH LOL:eek:

[Grimace]

The front axles will be fine but i can almost guarantee the rear drive axle wil snap. Get a set of laminated 2 piece axles. I speak from experiance, I've been running 37 inch super swampers for awhile now. Front axles, cvs, diffs all bullet proof, rear axles bad business.

Sorry have to disagree here. The front axles and cvs will not handle that size tyres. Maybe if you only drive mud and low traction surfaces.

The terrain Pete is looking to attempt will be putting a lot of stress into both axle assemblies, not to mention the added grip of the stickies.

Lets get tech!

I have some concerns about the added traction the stickies will provide, and it is something to take into great consideration, I am talking to you now pete so listen up :).

The stickies by all reports are goin to ad upto 50% more load to your drivetrain :eek: when on high traction surfaces (like the rock at ormeau), I do think they are goin to be sooo cool, but we gonna have to be very careful when binding up on rocks (granted 90% of ormeau wont bind up the drivetrain at all).

Now this may sound like a joke but seriously, they are gonna grip like **** to a blanket (possibly even better). It's going to take a bit of coaching to keep stuff from going bang.

I think the rover CW&P will be your biggest worry, as I know your goin to have upgraded axles and CVs allround.
I didn't want to mention this yesterday cause its just too orsum to even worry about.
But I did think about it a touch more last night, while I lay in bed wide awake over the excitement of maxxis stickies, that maybe you should consider and factor possible crown wheel explosions into the near future (just incase).

p.s. If you get Sticky creepies I'll get sticky Treps. We can play swaps :D

[Psimpson7]

Hey Mate,

My thoughts are pretty much the same as yours. The std Rover axles/cv's as you know are all heading to the spares cupboard as soon as RT get their drop in kit sorted. Keith was saying end of this month so that is getting pretty close now.

I must admit they have done alright as in 5 years+ of running 33s+35's I have only ever broken 1 long rear axle.

As you say next is the cw+p,but I wont fit 4.11's as they will screw up my road use, and I just cannot face that. The current gearing on 33's does my head in.... I keep trying to change up before remembering I am already in 5th (anyone have any figures on how much stronger they are than the 3.54's - I am not convinced that they are that much better - apparently there are also 4.14's however which are supposed to be stronger?) Maybe having the centres pegged may help.

I really want an underdrive but the budget isnt really there for that at the moment, so the 49% transfer case gears may have to be the go.

The main problem for me really is that I still use the car for long trips, (thousands of k's a week for a couple of weeks a year) and I wont run above 33's for that, and shafting the gearing is not a viable option I dont think.

To throw another spanner in I have just found a really good set of 35" krawlers in BNE..... but anyway heading to austyre shortly so will update thread with some prices a bit later.

Rgds
Pete

[Busman]

The front axles will be fine but i can almost guarantee the rear drive axle wil snap. Get a set of laminated 2 piece axles. I speak from experiance, I've been running 37 inch super swampers for awhile now. Front axles, cvs, diffs all bullet proof, rear axles bad business. Check out what you can do on a set of 37s with 2 locked diffs.

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LOL: Go the Sloth> 10 out of 10 for effort.:D:twisted::twisted:
This Disco is almost a mud sub-marine>:eek:

[Psimpson7]

Right just been and seem Brett.

He cant get the 37's in a Sticky. Only the 40's or the Trepps so will have to be the normal compound.

Got a good price tho :)

Rgds
Pete

[stevo68]

Pffft...all this big tyre talk...I reckon need for big tyres = a widdle wang :D. No need for big tyres= eeeee awwwww eeeeee awwwww :cool:,

Regards

Stevo

[dungarover]

Pete, I thought the 37's would look stupid but they suit the 90 better that I thought :D. Axle breakage here we come and the std gearing with a td5 should make it an interesting experience too on-road (and off downhills :eek:).

About to join the club too, 35's with std gearing, auto gearbox and a half-knackerd 3.5 EFI with 420+kms on the clock.....should be fun :twisted: Would like reduction gears but too $$$ and that means the beer fridge stays empty and I can't have that happen :eek:.

Trav

[Psimpson7]

Lol:D love your honesty Trav:D

Grimace and I thought it would look stupid too, then we fitted them, and stood back and it was like, you know that actually looks pretty cool:)

How you getting on with yours?

[dungarover]

Lol:D love your honesty Trav:D

Grimace and I thought it would look stupid too, then we fitted them, and stood back and it was like, you know that actually looks pretty cool:)

How you getting on with yours?

The dunga is progessing along slowly (too bloody slow for my liking :mad:). Has no gearbox atm and the ZF/LT230 is on the crane ready to go after I give it a good degrease as it's coverd in crap. I still have to sort the recovery points on the bar and do some 'trimming', fit the bodylift, sort the suspension out, get the tyres and so on and so on. The list seems endless.

Pics up soon on my project thread.

Trav

[harry]

well, that's stuffed it,
was thinking of doing a gutter crawler disco with 13's,
but big is beautiful,
unless you play tennis

[long stroke]

I hope you have axles by Coffs, the tracks are in very interesting conditon:cool:

[buzz66]

Very impressive Pete

37's all the way mate! go for it!

PS. Nothing wrong with rover axles.. they will be fine:D

Camo

Says the man with Toyo/Nissian running gear..:p

[Psimpson7]

Well the 35's have sold and gone.....

Grimace, are you still interested in the 15" wheels?

If not will be selling those too.

looked at some Krawlers this morning, and they werent in good enough condition, and were expensive, along with overly wide.....

Man if I do go for 37's it's going to mean I have to do some serious upgrades!! Shhh dont tell Sam ;)

[Slunnie]

Sorry have to disagree here. The front axles and cvs will not handle that size tyres. Maybe if you only drive mud and low traction surfaces.

The terrain Pete is looking to attempt will be putting a lot of stress into both axle assemblies, not to mention the added grip of the stickies.

Lets get tech!

I have some concerns about the added traction the stickies will provide, and it is something to take into great consideration, I am talking to you now pete so listen up :).

The stickies by all reports are goin to ad upto 50% more load to your drivetrain :eek: when on high traction surfaces (like the rock at ormeau), I do think they are goin to be sooo cool, but we gonna have to be very careful when binding up on rocks (granted 90% of ormeau wont bind up the drivetrain at all).

Now this may sound like a joke but seriously, they are gonna grip like **** to a blanket (possibly even better). It's going to take a bit of coaching to keep stuff from going bang.

I think the rover CW&P will be your biggest worry, as I know your goin to have upgraded axles and CVs allround.
I didn't want to mention this yesterday cause its just too orsum to even worry about.
But I did think about it a touch more last night, while I lay in bed wide awake over the excitement of maxxis stickies, that maybe you should consider and factor possible crown wheel explosions into the near future (just incase).

p.s. If you get Sticky creepies I'll get sticky Treps. We can play swaps :D
IMHO 37s are beyond Rover gear and their derivatives perhaps with the exception of a Salisbury with more than 1.24 axles. My 37's are a LOOOOOT bigger and a LOOOOOT heavier than my 34/35's.

then throw stickies into the equation. :lol2:

[stikman]

Well the 35's have sold and gone.....

Grimace, are you still interested in the 15" wheels?

If not will be selling those too.

looked at some Krawlers this morning, and they werent in good enough condition, and were expensive, along with overly wide.....

Man if I do go for 37's it's going to mean I have to do some serious upgrades!! Shhh dont tell Sam ;)

Looked at some 37x13.5 Maxxis Mudzilla's today, caught my eye sitting on top of a brand new set of 35x11.5 pedes. No one spoke english but i am sure i could fit them in my carry on baggage :D Just need to find some economical freight and a few things will be coming back over :angel: Everytime i see something jacked up with expendition stickers all over it i just want to hit the jungle.......maybe Monday ;) But in an Isuzu Dmax :o

You better get sorted before Coffs Pete :p

[stikman]

Right just been and seem Brett.

He cant get the 37's in a Sticky. Only the 40's or the Trepps so will have to be the normal compound.

Got a good price tho :)

Rgds
Pete

Is this not them from 4H?
Maxxis Creepy Crawler 4WD Mud Tyres 37x12.5-16 Sticky (http://www.4h.com.au/prod259.htm)

Or am I off base in what you were looking for?

[Psimpson7]

Hi mate,

Yes that would seem to be them.

they definetely used to be available in a sticky as I believe Griamce was offered the option, but Brett phoned Maxxis I think when I was there and they said that they werent available in a sticky anymore.

Wonder if they may be old stock?

I am hopefully going to see a almost new set of 35" Krawlers tommorow, as I do have concerns with running 37's

I am not sure I will be at Coffs.

Only 50% at the moment

Rgds
Pete

[Slunnie]

I think the BFG Krawlers are just about impossible to get new these days also.

[Disco_owner]

I think the BFG Krawlers are just about impossible to get new these days also.

you interested in importing 2 x sets from US ????

[Psimpson7]

I think the BFG Krawlers are just about impossible to get new these days also.

Tell me about it. I spent about a week on the phone trying to get some.

They arent expecting any at least for the next 6 months.

I did consider bringing some in from the US but think the shipping and import duty would be a killer.

[Slunnie]

Tell me about it. I spent about a week on the phone trying to get some.

They arent expecting any at least for the next 6 months.

I did consider bringing some in from the US but think the shipping and import duty would be a killer.
I checked last week the mob in the US which I have used before. They typically have everything.... all that they had in the Krawler IIRC was 2x 35-15's and nothing else. I guess if they're not easy to get in the US then nobody else in the world will have a chance.

[Psimpson7]

hey Simon :)

Look what Ive just got :)

Basially Brand new. 4 off :)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/11/1398.jpg


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/11/1399.jpg


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/11/1397.jpg

Paid $1450 for them. (and sold my Silverstones for $1250)

35 x 13.5 x 15

Pretty light compared to the Silverstones.

Think they are a safer bet than the 37's and I also already have a set of 15" wheels.

[Shamo]

Niiice :D:D:D

[harry]

cooee,
them's big buggers.

[long stroke]

Awesome!!!!!!
Alway's liked the look of them!!

Very good buy.

TIM.

[Psimpson7]

Cheers guys. Always wanted a set of Krawlers. Wll be interested to see how they go! Will get them fitted tommorow.:)

[Slunnie]

hey Simon :)

Look what Ive just got :)

Basially Brand new. 4 off :)

Paid $1450 for them. (and sold my Silverstones for $1250)

35 x 13.5 x 15

Pretty light compared to the Silverstones.

Think they are a safer bet than the 37's and I also already have a set of 15" wheels.
Legend!!!!!! :eek::cool: Good price too!

Where in gods name did you score them!!!

[Psimpson7]

Sent you a PM.

[Grimace]

Sent you a PM.

PM me too please ! :D

[Disco_owner]

Could I get a PM too please :D

[Psimpson7]

Lol. It wont help you I am afraid guys... he only had 4. sorry

[GuyG]

Theres a set of 5 Krawlers on outerlimits being sold at Springwood in Brisbane

Outer Limits 4x4 Board :: View topic - 35" BFG KRAWLERS x5....pics (http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic191111.php)

[Grimace]

I am after something in comp spec and 37" sizing.

They gonna look soo sweet under your rig pete. Keen to head out to ormeau sometime soon?

[Psimpson7]

Theres a set of 5 Krawlers on outerlimits being sold at Springwood in Brisbane

Outer Limits 4x4 Board :: View topic - 35" BFG KRAWLERS x5....pics (http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic191111.php)

Ive been to see them Guy. Theyre not great and bloody expensive. there are complete lugs missing on a couple of them. 70% condition IMO

[Psimpson7]

. Keen to head out to ormeau sometime soon?

Oh yes!

I know where there are a set of 37" krawlers in Bne too

Will have photos of them fitted soon

Rgds
Pete.

[Shamo]

Can you buy krawlers in 33"? by the sounds of all this talk it would be pretty hard to find them anyway...

Shamo

[Psimpson7]

No you cant Shamo, nothing below 35.

Well they are on :) :

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/11/1366.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/11/1367.jpg

[harry]

wanna borrow my angle grinder?

and you could wash it sometime.

[long stroke]

Oh yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!:cool:

[Outlaw]

Looking almost as good as my claws do Pete :angel:

Actually looking very nice ;)

[Slunnie]

No you cant Shamo, nothing below 35.

Well they are on :) :

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/11/1366.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/11/1367.jpg

Holy Crap Pete, they are awesome!!!!!!!! Thats one fat looking tyre!


I just had to quote your post to keep the pics alive!!! :D

[Psimpson7]

Thanks Simon :D

It looks even better in real life... I have left them on for now. Hope I dont need to use the car tommorow!:) (I did give them a quick test on the road but wont be doing that often, although they were suprinsingly well behaved)

Time to drag Grimace out for a test run in Ormeau!!

Rgds
Pete

[Grimace]

it broke! :D

[dungarover]

it broke! :D

Took you over 2 years to respond :twisted:

Remeber 37 into 90 goes better than 90 into 37 :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

Trav

[Psimpson7]

Lol, he really is a bit slow hey Trav!

Ironically he posts 'it broke' about 2 week after its all working again!

[Grimace]

lol somehow I stumbled across this thread while trying to search for the wheel covers one (merchandise)... so I posted an update :D

[Busman]

Ahhhh Creepies:D:D Ahhhh Stickys;):D

How cool would these treads be on the 90.
Hell, Louise did not talk to me for 2 weeks after buying mine.

On second thoughts ? Gee that was so peaceful over a beer on the verandah every night:).
Beter go shopping again.

Come on Pete !! Do it < Do it>

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Go all the way !!
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