Can you identify this filter?

[chazza]

I plan to use this filter and housing on my 80". It was given to me years ago by the chap next door, who like me, had no idea what it was off or what make it is.
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There is no maker's name on the lid of the cannister and no name or part number, on the filter either.

The filter is rather like a baked beans tin with perforated sides and has a wire handle to help extract it from the cannister. It is 106mm in diameter and 124mm tall.

A friend of mine suggested Fram as it is coloured orange. I suspect it is off a truck, as the bracket it is bolted to along with the horn, is a rather hefty bit of gear. It is very similar to the AC type that used be on my Bedford, except that AC used aluminium lids and had their name cast in the top.

If anyone can help I would greatly appreciate it, as buying new filters may be tricky without some hint of what it is,

Cheers Charlie

[Blknight.aus]

edit, hey they loaded.....

Thats the same filter as was in my old cj-5 the filters are commonly available as they are just a cartridge filter they just dont always come with the handle.

take the old one out and let it dry for a while then goto somewhere that specialises in filters and they will help you out.

I think from memory that you can use the filter from the series in them.

[Bigbjorn]

Looks like an old bypass filter often fitted as an aftermarket accessory in the 40's-50's to engines that didn't have an oil filter.

[groucho]

chazza
I had one the same on one of the 80" Land rovers
Just opened it up and the same as the one you have
Tried the canister in one of my GPW oil filters an i say it will fit.
Have a few spare oil filters but can't find them
purOlator No PD51 R
WIX 5110
A few people on here with WW2 jeeps may know
They are still a common canister......Mark





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[JDNSW]

Brian is right. Common accessory for a whole variety of engines from the forties, fifties and sixties. Best guess is that it was first fitted to a Holden, but only because they were the most common model in that period.

John

[chazza]

Thanks for the advice chaps, I will visit Coventrys some time.

Thanks very much for the Pt Nos Groucho, I will see if they fit :D

I knew this forum would come up trumps! :D

Cheers Charlie

[101 Ron]

I am in the forklift game and it a very common filter for me.
Old Hyster and Clark forkilfts with continental motors use them.
They were used on every thing ....common on old equiptment.
It must be used as a bypass filter and there is a restriction in the filter housing because of this.
The most common size is Ryco P/N R3P.
Motors up until the end of World War 2 used a slightly larger version ryco P/N
R4P.
Note R3P and R4P elements do not interchange.
Most auto stores can still get the R3P filter element for you on order.
R4P harder to get, but Marathon spares should have both types cheap(WW2 jeep parts supplier)
My retail price is $16.50 plus GST.
They can be used as transmission filters on tractors too.
When changing the filter use lifting ring to get filter out and then a suction gun to get the dirty oil and sludge out of the housing before fitting the new filter.
Run engine for 5 mins and recheck oil level as it can take some time to fill the filter housing.
Check top gasket for leaks too.
5/8 is the normal spanner size for the top plate.
War time jeep uses R4P(3/4 spanner size)
Post war Willys 4 and 6 cyl jeeps used R3P until about 1963.
Holden Grey motors used the R3P housing and element on models fitted with oil filters and as after market.
Chamberland and Fergy Tractors used R3P and R4P housings depending on the model and transmission.
Standard early model filter in the forklift world on all american brands.

[101 Ron]

The filter housing can be mounted to the chassis or directly to the engine block.
Engine block mountings may some times crack on the top most support strap.
R3P also used on Chrysler industrial motors.

[chazza]

Thanks for the info Ron :D

My housing has a 7/8 AF bolt on the top of it so it may need the the R4P.

I was initially planning to use it on my tractor's transmission but the 80" has assumed precedence. :) I will try the BARECo dealer near me and see if he has a listing as per Ferguson,

Cheers Charlie

[101 Ron]

there are also some now odd size filters used to the same deisgn, especally on tractors.
The 7/8 spanner size on the top worries me a bit.........just might be a very hard to find now R10P???????? Ryco
Bare and Co should be fine.

[cjc_td5]

I am looking at this thread with interest as I am just getting to this stage of my reassembly. My 86" has an oil filter very similar to those descibed above.

Is there any way to tell the difference between a R3P & R4P unit other than by date of use? Mine has a 13/16" hex head on the top bolt. The filter cartridge looks pretty much identical to that posted by Chazza.

It is attached to a bracket welded to the chassis which follows the profile of the inner guard.

As for the the pipes that the service the filter, mine has 1/4" copper tubing which I have to replace. Is there any advantage in trying to go to a larger diameter tubing & fittings??

Cheers,
Chris

[Aaron IIA]

No problem getting a Ryco R4P oil filter. My local car parts shop keeps them on the shelf. This filter housing was standard fitment to Champions' 80" Land Rovers.

Aaron.