D2 wearing out inside of rear tyres?

[DiscoDan]

Hi,

I have a 2000 D2 that is eating the inside of the rear tyres at an alarming rate, so I took it to have the rear end inspected,

To my horror it has 10mm toe in on the rear axle. 7 mm on the right wheel and 3mm on the left.:(

Can you space the bearing assembly or am I looking at a new housing?

Thanks for help

Danny

[PAT303]

It's a very common thing caused by hitting gutters or driving over the concrete islands in car parks.Easy to fix at any good tyre shop. Pat

[BigJon]

It's a very common thing caused by hitting gutters or driving over the concrete islands in car parks.Easy to fix at any good tyre shop. Pat

How do you figure that??

It sounds to me like a bent housing which will require either straightening or replacement.

[Graeme]

Sounds like the diff centre has hit a few hard objects earlier in its life.

[PAT303]

How do you figure that??

It sounds to me like a bent housing which will require either straightening or replacement.
Sorry you are right it has to be diff,they weren't indipendent then. Pat

[isuzurover]

If they are like earlier axles, you can fit a tapered shim under the stub axle (spindle) to correct such issues. However a new axle housing may be a better option - especially if the housing is bent.

[djam1]

It's a very common thing caused by hitting gutters or driving over the concrete islands in car parks.Easy to fix at any good tyre shop. Pat


Gee they are rugged arent they has anyone ever driven one across the Tanami fully loaded lol

[Utemad]

Hi Danny.

Is it safe to assume that this is a relatively new problem for you?
If it wasn't there before then I would guess you would remember hitting something hard enough to bend something and there might even still be evidence of the hit.
I wouldn't have thought it would be from overloading and extended rough roads etc as you haven't subjected this Disco to that treatment yet AFAIK.

Is it possible that it is worn bushes?

See you at the Christmas trip if you guys are coming.

[Redback]

Gee they are rugged arent they has anyone ever driven one across the Tanami fully loaded lol

They are rugged, I know this because mine has had a beating and I've never bent a diff housing, bent trailing arms and broken diffs and axles but not a diff housing, mine has done the Cape, the Simpson, the High Country all towing a trailer and fully load inside the car as well as lots of playing in the tuff stuff :twisted:

Have a look at the trailing arms and bushes, also it may have been in a rear end collision with the previous owner.

Baz.

[djam1]

Good I would expect no less

[350RRC]

10mm toe in is huge. I can't imagine it to be anything else but a bent housing. (i'm happy to stand corrected).

You can do the toe out on the front of a RRC by eye :D and that's only about 1 - 3mm.

cheers, DL

[LOVEMYRANGIE]

Toe in or camber??? Toe in, being a left/right adjustment, on the rear would usually result in wear on the outer tyre edge as the load pushes the tyre into the centre of the vehicle, plus to get toe in you would have to bend the axle head on, or slamming the diff into a rock, which is a worry as technically you should have smacked the front diff first.....
Plus with all that angle, what's the deal with the axles??? No CV's, nothing to take up the bend. Would have thought an axle would have gone with that much tweak.....
Andrew

[DiscoDan]

Thanks for the replys,

I removed the short axle, the side that has 7mm toe in and can not see any sign of abnormal wear on the splines.

I also looked at the housing to see if I had hit a rock hard enough to bend the housing but I am sure I would remember hitting such a rock. It would have to stop the car after removing the front end.

The tyres that came off the car when I bought it don't have any abnormal wear so I don't think it has been rear ended. I am also getting that confirmed from a mate who knows the previous owner.

The guy who did the wheel alignment aligned it to the front as best as I can tell. BUT I will put it up on stands today and do it the old fashion way.

It doesn't seem to be a normal thing so I will look harder

Thanks

[DiscoDan]

just pulled axles out and housing is bent:( too much toe out

shimmed bearings and moved toe out to only 3mm from 12mm. Measured at the front and rear of the tyres.:)

Now to find a new housing:(

[LOVEMYRANGIE]

Bugger!!

Shouldn't be too hard to find even a complete diff assy for it. I know of a couple of Discos over here in WA on the wreck list, but do a search of local LR wreckers and you should be fine.
Just a bugger when you need to fork out cash you want to hang on to. ;)

Good luck


Andrew

[Graeme]

Measured at the front and rear of the tyres.
Did you rotate the wheels to measure at the same spot on each tyre?

[Dougal]

Where is the bend?
I've seen them go in two places. The first is crimping one end due to an impact, the second is bending the housing at the diff-head.

Repair and reinforcement might be a better option than replacement.

[DiscoDan]

Did you rotate the wheels to measure at the same spot on each tyre?


Thanks Graeme, I did this, nice white mark onto the tyre is easier to line up than using the tread (I tried this way when I was 17 and couldn't get it right)


Where is the bend?
I've seen them go in two places. The first is crimping one end due to an impact, the second is bending the housing at the diff-head.

Repair and reinforcement might be a better option than replacement.
Can't see the bend Dougal (bugger I thought) although the diff people said that this is good, if you can see the bend it is too far gone to straighten it.

I removed the axles and measured off the housing flanges using a straight edge.

Cost to fix $275 + $20 freight via company
or
cost to replace $250 + GST or $275

I am thinking that if the first housing has bent then after straightening it will it bend again:confused:.
Spoke to Ricks on the GC and he said it is not a common thing happen (that is good)

Considering the punishment I gave my series 1 Disco and the Rangie before that I was thinking maybe I have a soft roader:eek: (joking)