Thinking of rescuing a 101 (SIIA F/C)

[boa]

I am thinking of buying a much neglected 101 I think it is a S11 1969 model cab chassis. It has a fair bit of rust in it. But it is cheap? Possibly if I do not buy it it will end up in the tip. The person who owns it has to move hose. Problems, I live in a unit the vehicle is 500km away, going to look at it Saturday. I am in WA. Could store it at work for a short time. It is in bits at the moment. Not wanting to make money on this but would anyone want it even for parts? I would like to make a project out of it just bring it back to standard. Is that feasible not the money just availability of parts.

[langy]

just a short history lesson: The 101 was the military version of the Landrover foward control- much like the Perenties of today vs the standard defender. It sounds like your vehicle is a late 60''s Forward control, based on the Series II 109 inch chassis. The good news is that if you want to bring it back, you can adapt series II parts ( Which it was built on - the chassis is a normal LWB chassis with some extra bits added on top)

As for parts - not for me to say as I'm a RR/Disco person.

But don't confuse the military model with the civilian.

ps If I had a shed and weren't 6'4", I'd want one

[HangOver]

pm sent

[101RRS]

I am thinking of buying a much neglected 101 I think it is a S11 1969 model cab chassis.

That does not sound like a 101 - as you indicated a Series 11 FC - they are completely different vehicles and not related to each other.

Irrespective of this, series 11 FCs are rare and certainly worthy of saving. If you are interested in the vehicle then go for it.

Garry

[Lotz-A-Landies]

I am thinking of buying a much neglected 101 I think it is a S11 1969 model cab chassis. ...<snip> just a short history lesson: The 101 was the military version of the Landrover foward control- much like the Perenties of today vs the standard defender. It sounds like your vehicle is a late 60''s Forward control, based on the Series II 109 inch chassis. The good news is that if you want to bring it back, you can adapt series II parts ( Which it was built on - the chassis is a normal LWB chassis with some extra bits added on top) ...<snip>Some of this information is not correct.

If intending to purchase the vehicle send me a PM with the chassis number and I'll tell you what it is and what to watch out for!

A little history lession (very rough dates): 1963 Land Rover released it's first Forward control. based on the 109" chassis with extended spring hangers and a modified rear cross member. Similar chassis were also used for the 109" military variants in Australia.
1964 the Rover type rear differential is replaced with an ENV because of failures.
1965 the 6 cylinder model and ENV front diff introduced
1966 the series IIB model is introduced with a 4" wider track classified as a 110" wheelbase and has underslung rear axle assembly.
1972 101" military variant introduced with Range Rover based engine and transmission (Series IIB essentially finishes secept for a SADF contract ending in 1978)
1978 production of the 101" ceases.
About 3,000 SIIA Forward Controls and 3,000 SIIB forward controls were produced, only tens or maybe hundreds made their way to Australia.
two SIIA (4cyl petrol and 6cyl petrol) one SIIB 6cyl were trialled and rejected by the Australian ArmyOther issues Some of the cab fittings are standard series - cab roof, door tops, rear window panel, windscreen.
wheel hubs and stub axles are standard Series 2
Brakes are standard 6 cyl 11"
firewall is a modified 4 cyl unit.
steering column is an orphan.
door bottoms are unique but can be made out of standard door bottoms.
transfer gears and mainshafts are orphans - no overdrive available and transmission is very low geared.
front body panels are orphans.
ENV front axles have a habit of breaking and are no longer available.


Diana

[boa]

Thanks for the replies, yes it is defiantly a forward control vehicle. Looking at it on Saturday. Will get all the details and take lots of pics. Sounds like parts should be ok.
I am excited:):)

[langy]

well, I got most of it right... don't I get at least an A for effort :)

[boa]

The vehicle is in Denmark WA it is complete and in parts that is the good news. The bad news is the Chassis is quiet rusted. Apparently it is a 1962 series iia. So I am guessing very rare in Aus.
Lotz-A-Landies PM sent.
If I decide not to buy it at least other people are, one in Queensland is interested so it will be saved. I am trying to find a place that I can work on it in Perth. A unit is not very suitable for this type of project.
Will read up on how to post up photos but it might be quicker if someone can pm me their email address and I can send them there to be posted. I do not have a web photo storage place at the moment.

Did well with traveling time Perth to denmark 4 hours, Denmark to Perth 3 and 3/4 hours jee I love the rangy.:) When no cops about.:twisted:

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Chris has sent me some images, he's a big task ahead if he goes ahead as it's pretty well disassembled.

Firstly the ID the vendor has provided is incorrect, it's for a normal control SIIA.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/11/632.jpg

It should look like this:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachments/fcs-military-variations/19561d1255552896-how-many-civilian-forward-controls-there-dsc00739.jpg

However the chassis looks to be the correct animal. The chassis number will be adjacent/below the coil of wire.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/01/217.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/11/633.jpg

Although is must be fairly early as it has a Rover rear diff.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/11/634.jpg

I'd be going for a series 3 109" Salisbury rear end and front axles just for the additional strength.

If there is too much rust in the chassis, the next closest match is the Au military 109 either late SIIa if it's a 4cyl or SIII for a 6cyl. Then swap the other fittings across.

Diana

[boa]

Unfortunately I have not been able to find somewhere to store this vehicle at a reasonable price.:( Any offers for shed space. It really does need to find someone who would restore it to its original condition it is totally original. Even down to the original small prop shaft for the fan.
The owners phone number is 08 9848 1684 he would also like to see it restored.
If someone else can take this project on please ring the owner.
I am still keen but time might beat me. so opening it up to others.
http://www.ebroadcast.com.au/ecars/LandRover/Series/FC.html (http://www.ebroadcast.com.au/ecars/LandRover/Series/FC.html)

This site shows some pictures of this model, spare tyre placement etc. This vehicle is full cab model.
The chassie is totaly rusted out at the bottom it is a 4cyl